Yes, it's another "NYC SKP" thread! I hope he is at least still reading because I *HAVE* to say this

[Ghost in the Machine]

This discussion thread was locked as off-topic by one_voice (a host of the General Discussion forum).

We didn't always see eye to eye on some subjects, but we were able to discuss them in a polite, civil manner, which I greatly admired and appreciated.

I don't know what happened, but if you happen to read this, I wish you well in the future my friend....

Peace,

Ghost

[mindwalker_i]

1. He said a bad word

and now must be consigned to THE PITS OF HELL!

Our priorities are clear.

[valerief]

2. A magic word!

[Art_from_Ark]

12. And it wasn't even "the word"

[dflprincess]

11. He didn't even actually say it

He used a Spoonerism and that made other people think the bad word.

It is a word most of us find offensive but the way some people react to some words here reminds me of the way Ralphie's mother reacted to another bad word in "A Christmas Story".

If someone habitually uses this kind of language they should be banned but that was not the case here.

[mindwalker_i]

13. Oh I know

That said word was not, actually, muttered doesn't make a difference. Freaking out over a word makes this whole place hard to take seriously. This is what we totally freak out over?

[hootinholler]

21. Actually he repeated the spoonerism

In mocking a troll who used the spoonerism.

To be clear, perhaps the mocking wasn't clear, but that was the intent.

[Lizzie Poppet]

36. That was my interpretation, too.

The mocking was far from explicit (and completely tone deaf), but to me the intent was clear.

[Exilednight]

24. The thought police at work. He didn't say it, but they "knew" what he meant.

[Duckhunter935]

23. the admin is the onlky one that said THE word

he did not actually say it. But if enough people post it, it must be true.

Take care NY, you will be missed

[KittyWampus]

27. He did more than that over the years. But if it makes you and others FEEL good

to believe that…. at least you don't go the "he didn't even say it" route.

[sabrina 1]

31. So did a whole lot of other people, much, much worse but they are still here. So what was the

real reason for this? I saw the reason given, then saw the conversation. I have seen far worse than that here, from people who are still around, which is fine by me, I'd rather debate people than silence them, but it seems there are different standards for different people.

[CaliforniaPeggy]

3. I believe he is still reading, and he appreciates everyone's good wishes. n/t

[In_The_Wind]

20. We spoke on the phone again yesterday afternoon.

He's busy and hasn't checked his facebook account recently.

[Flying Squirrel]

4. He pulled a stunt

One stupid joke out of at least 800 posts per month, and he was also an effective poster against the candidate supported by the admin. First it was "it's their right to openly support whomever they choose" - duh, obviously it's their right. Doesn't make it a wise course of action. Now they've escalated it by banning someone who, after 7 years as a clearly progressive and contributing member, with recent brain surgery, made one stupid joke against Hillary.

Something stinks around here.

[MohRokTah]

6. The ban was rigtheous.

He deserved it.

[Flying Squirrel]

8. Ah, king of one-liners...

I have a very high tolerance and put few on ignore, but something tells me you just might make the cut someday. Carry on!

[Paka]

15. If I did use the ignore feature,

he would be first on my list, but I don't need to push a button to ignore posts. I can do that easily on my own.

However, alerts for any number of random words, even common ones that are not ipso facto insulting, are out-of-control. Simply stating and unpleasant fact about a candidate no longer seems to be allowed.

[Katashi_itto]

29. Agree.. Someone would have made a great

Loyalty officer in some banana republic..oh wait.

[840high]

10. He did not deserve it.

[MannyGoldstein]

16. Why? nt

[Duckhunter935]

25. if anything a hide may have been deserved

Since he never actually said that word and was quoting another post. I just think another purge has begun.

[Lizzie Poppet]

26. Bullshit.

One of the most absurd, clueless bans ever...

[MohRokTah]

28. One of the best examples of the TOS being enforced by the Admins ever,

By registering a Democratic Underground account, you agree to abide by these terms. A single violation of any of these terms could result in your posting privileges being revoked without warning.

The Democratic Underground Administrators have a great deal of confidence in our system of citizen jurors and software tools, but we are well aware that trolls are constantly on the lookout for new ways to cause trouble and therefore on rare occasions it may necessary for us to revoke a member's posting privileges for reasons that are not covered by these Terms of Service. Because of this necessity, we retain the right to revoke any member's posting privileges at any time for any reason.

The Admins had every right to ban him.

He has every right to seek out the admins, demonstrate contrition, and request the ban be overturned. My suspicion is, should he do so, he has a good chance of being reinstated. The ball is in his court.

[Lizzie Poppet]

32. No one's claiming the Admins lacked the right to issue the ban.

So I'm not sure why you'd bring that up...

In any case, I also suspect Skip would be reinstated if he grovelled sufficiently, too. But it's also my suspicion that he might just tell EarlG to shove a second chance right up his ass after that absurd overreaction.

[MohRokTah]

33. Then he deserved to be banned.

This is not his site. This site belongs to Skinner.

[Lizzie Poppet]

34. Huh?

Again, no one has stated or implied that this site is anyone else's.

I'm done here...this has gotten more than a little bizarre. Have a wonderful day (no sarcasm...I mean it)!

[MohRokTah]

35. If he is not willing to contct the admins to explain his side of things, he deserved what he got.

[SusanCalvin]

39. "This site belongs to Skinner"

Who depends on posters for the site's content. Which in turn affects the site's reputation and its advertising and membership revenue. And, last I heard, it's not being run just as a hobby.....

[MohRokTah]

41. And one poster who crosses the line and gets banned will not matter a whit. eom

[SusanCalvin]

43. If you say so. nt

[GCP]

38. Ah, you've been on DU a whole year

We bow to your superior experience

[rhett o rick]

5. Well if he is reading, I want to say this to him. WTF were you thinking.

We need you and you go and do something stupid. I of course have never done anything stupid. Well there was that one time in college, but I had been drinking and.... wait, this isn't about me. I hope you get reinstated so I can give you a piece of my mind (I think I still have some).

[nadinbrzezinski]

7. Looks though that head

using a flashlight.

Nope... not much in there



(For the hyper sensitive, this is an attempt at humor)

[rhett o rick]

9. If you are referring to my head, I don't think it's funny.

It's true but .... what was the question?

Right back at yeah Nadin.

[Ghost in the Machine]

14. Thanks to everyone who has replied and/or recc'ed this thread...

I hardly ever respond to each person who replies, unless they ask a specific question or something of that nature, because I think after a while the individual responses might start looking insincere as there's only so many ways to say "Thank You", and I don't use it as a way to build up my post count either.

You'd be surprised at the fact that some of the posters with 20,000, 30,000 or more posts got them from a lot of "K&R"s, "+1000"s and/or "LOL"s....

Peace,

Ghost

[nadinbrzezinski]

17. These days guilty as charged

But I mostly don't do content anymore. At least not here.

[stonecutter357]

18. .

[akbacchus_BC]

19. I just cannot believe that the Admins would

ban NYC. He is precious to this community. Seems to me that the Admins think they will get an influx of new duers, so the old ones do not matter. This is so sad.

Dear NYC, hope you are keeping well! I will miss you my friend! You reached out to me when I could not communicate on here.

[madokie]

22. What I don't get is we have a melt down

a couple three times, if my memory serves me right, from one member who was reinstated each time and is still here writing complete total bullshit about our present President. He's on my ignore list so I don't read his tripe unless someone mentions the name as was the case recently so I know he's still here.

I don't get it

Maybe its better I don't, who knows

[GCP]

40. Yes, a million times yes

And I know of whom you speak.

[Paladin]

30. I think all we're doing now is giving NYC SKP a gigantic ego trip.

Something he's not entitled to, in my opinion.

[GCP]

42. He didn't deserve to be banned

Member here since 2001 and have seen several large purges.

[Horse with no Name]

45. trust me....that isn't happening. n/t

[DemocratSinceBirth]

37. What I have learned from this and other similar threads

What I have learned from this and other similar threads is there are no epithets that are off limits unless they are made by someone we like or made about someone we dislike.






P.S. Might as well add the obligatory "I thought the punishment was harsh. A thirty day timeout for sober self reflection was more in order."

[Horse with no Name]

44. I have always thought if you chose to contribute financially here

and the admins ban you, they should refund your money. But hey, that's just me!

[one_voice]

46. Locking...

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