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Wed Jun 10, 2015, 03:05 PM

Diane Rehm Presses Sanders On Whether He’s US-Israel Dual Citizen

Source: TPM

An interview with Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) stopped in its tracks on Wednesday when NPR's Diane Rehm repeatedly pressed the Democratic presidential candidate whether he was a citizen of Israel.

"Senator, you have dual citizenship with Israel," Rehm said during the interview on her nationally broadcast show based on station WAMU.

"Well, no I do not have dual citizenship with Israel," Sanders, who is Jewish, interjected. "I'm an American. I don't know where that question came from. I am an American citizen, and I have visited Israel on a couple of occasions. I'm an American citizen, period."

Rehm cited "a list we have gotten" at NPR that said Sanders was "on that list."



Read more: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/bernie-sanders-diane-rehm-israel




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Reply Diane Rehm Presses Sanders On Whether He’s US-Israel Dual Citizen (Original post)
demmiblue Jun 2015 OP
Fumesucker Jun 2015 #1
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sabrina 1 Jun 2015 #67
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truth2power Jun 2015 #5
CreekDog Jun 2015 #9
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Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Wed Jun 10, 2015, 03:07 PM

1. Nice Polite Republicans

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Response to Fumesucker (Reply #1)

Wed Jun 10, 2015, 03:46 PM

32. I never knew she was a Republican. Isn't she one of the low-talkers on

NPR?

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Response to Fumesucker (Reply #1)

Wed Jun 10, 2015, 04:27 PM

67. Who work for the Koch Bros. They are spending big money to try to stop Bernie. She's just doing her

'job'.

Bernie as always, was fantastic, good luck Kochs. Bernie has named them as an example of the wealthy buying our government, so they have decided, rather than come out of their holes and face him, to do it the cowardly and sneaky way.

What an irrelevant and useless question, but then, it's NPR so ....

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Response to sabrina 1 (Reply #67)

Mon Jun 15, 2015, 02:28 PM

138. On occasions I am surprised to see Koch brothers sponsor a program on PBS

The reason, someone told me, is that eventually they want to be on the board and then...

Apparently they did the same for National Geographic?

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Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Wed Jun 10, 2015, 03:08 PM

2. I mean what the hell? Has she lost her marbles?

or was an anti-semite lurking in there all along?

I mean what the hell?

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Response to CreekDog (Reply #2)

Wed Jun 10, 2015, 03:14 PM

5. A person is an anti-Semite for asking a public official if they're a dual citizen of Israel?

Who knew?

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Response to truth2power (Reply #5)

Wed Jun 10, 2015, 03:22 PM

9. She didn't ask, she accused, and because his religion is Jewish

would she ask Scalia? nope.

Also read the transcript again, you seem to be confused about her "asking him".

She accused him. She told him that he was.

How do you feel about the question, "do you have loyalties to Israel?"

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Response to CreekDog (Reply #9)

Wed Jun 10, 2015, 03:28 PM

17. Exactly

 

The equivalent would asking a catholic if he was a dual citizen of Italy.

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Response to rufus dog (Reply #17)

Wed Jun 10, 2015, 03:58 PM

44. Not everyone in Italy is Catholic. Vatican City - a separate nation

contained within the borders of Italy and the seat of the Roman Catholic church -- might be a better analogy as Scalia is a devout Catholic.

They're asking Sanders about his citizenship because of his RELIGION...neither he nor his parents were born in Israel, which is a nation regarded as the spiritual home of the Jewish faith.

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Response to MADem (Reply #44)

Wed Jun 10, 2015, 06:51 PM

110. Not everyone in Israel is Jewish

 

The question is stupid.

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Response to rufus dog (Reply #110)

Thu Jun 11, 2015, 11:15 PM

133. The comparison was, too. nt

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Response to MADem (Reply #133)

Fri Jun 12, 2015, 12:53 AM

135. Sez you, poo poo head

 

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Response to rufus dog (Reply #135)

Fri Jun 12, 2015, 12:56 AM

136. That was actually one of the funniest posts I've seen today... nt

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Response to MADem (Reply #136)

Fri Jun 12, 2015, 01:05 AM

137. Game, set, and match!

 

No arguing with someone who calls you a poo poo head. Playground Rules!

To add, dibs, and shotgun!

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Response to CreekDog (Reply #9)

Wed Jun 10, 2015, 03:43 PM

30. Yep. Exactly.

 

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Response to truth2power (Reply #5)

Wed Jun 10, 2015, 03:41 PM

26. do point out the question. oh, you can't because an accusation is not a question

 

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Response to truth2power (Reply #5)

Wed Jun 10, 2015, 03:48 PM

35. no response huh?

didn't think so.

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Response to CreekDog (Reply #35)

Wed Jun 10, 2015, 03:58 PM

46. shocker

 

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Response to truth2power (Reply #5)

Wed Jun 10, 2015, 04:33 PM

75. Careful you don't totally out yourself.

 

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Response to truth2power (Reply #5)

Wed Jun 10, 2015, 05:58 PM

105. She didn't ask him; she told him

Yes, that's anti-Semitic.

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Response to truth2power (Reply #5)

Wed Jun 10, 2015, 06:26 PM

109. See her apology for the false claim she made here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026812327

And note the 'source' she was using to make that false claim.

So either she is an anti-semite or whoever handed her the memo is.

Take your pick.

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Response to truth2power (Reply #5)

Wed Jun 10, 2015, 07:33 PM

115. It's pretty much a dead fucking giveaway, in fact.

 

Glad I could help.

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Response to truth2power (Reply #5)

Mon Jun 15, 2015, 02:29 PM

139. That you do not see anything wrong with your post is really sad (nt)

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Response to CreekDog (Reply #2)

Wed Jun 10, 2015, 04:38 PM

81. I don't know.

Sometimes she's on point, and sometimes....

This is a new low, and should be called out for what it is.

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Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Wed Jun 10, 2015, 03:10 PM

3. She should be embarrassed. n/t

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Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Wed Jun 10, 2015, 03:13 PM

4. the same has been posted here through the years

They won't always give names but i think we know they were not referring to pro israel members like graham cruz boehner etc.

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Response to JI7 (Reply #4)

Wed Jun 10, 2015, 03:39 PM

24. Yep!

As a matter of fact one such list was posted here 13 days ago, and was hidden by a razor's edge.

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Response to Behind the Aegis (Reply #24)

Wed Jun 10, 2015, 04:02 PM

50. Sometimes they don't hide at all.

 

This one was 2-5 to leave, on someone's very first post at DU:

AIPAC On the Rebound
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=1054793

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

YOUR COMMENTS

newbie anti-Semite falsely claiming Chuck Schumer is a citizen of Israel (the old dual loyalty card)

JURY RESULTS

A randomly-selected Jury of DU members completed their review of this alert at Tue Mar 31, 2015, 03:52 PM, and voted 2-5 to LEAVE IT ALONE.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: It appears others think Schumer has dual citizenship, Can you offer proof it's a false statement?


Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: So debunk it. Doubt poster will last, but I don't think it's hide-worthy.
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #4 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: Anti-semitic
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #6 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: I'm taking your word for it about the fake citizenship claim.
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: A rather bumpy intro to DU, but don't judge based on one post. I suspect MIRT will be watching post #2 to see where this goes. Tread lightly new guy.

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Response to Codeine (Reply #116)

Wed Jun 10, 2015, 09:11 PM

119. Here's one from two weeks ago...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=1104429

The third link is the actual source (Eden on Facebook) she used on her show!

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Response to Behind the Aegis (Reply #119)

Wed Jun 10, 2015, 09:28 PM

121. But it's the Kochs' fault!

 

No antisemitism on the Left, or so I've been assured.

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Response to Codeine (Reply #121)

Thu Jun 11, 2015, 02:06 AM

123. I don't know who is at fault other then Rehm but...

...allow me to affix my tinfoil kippah and say, it is a possibility this is dirty pool. Think about who the usual target audience of NPR is...it ain't usually the right. So why this accusation? Why so early in the campaign? If anything, the possibility exists it was a way to exploit anti-Semitism on the left and start a "whisper" campaign against Sanders. Jews are usually considered the responsible actors for many conspiracy theories, when the truth is we are usually the ones on the other end of the conspiracy!

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Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Wed Jun 10, 2015, 03:15 PM

6. it almost sounds as if she were shilling for someone else

makes no difference if the accusation is true or false, the important thing is to get it out there.

lord, npr is getting near impossible to listen to.

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Response to rurallib (Reply #6)

Wed Jun 10, 2015, 03:59 PM

47. Yes

 

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Response to rurallib (Reply #6)

Wed Jun 10, 2015, 05:57 PM

104. NPR is now News Pro Republican, and has been ever since

the Bush administration seeded the place from top to bottom with wingnut acolytes.

I gave up on them eons ago. They have a few good shows but they aren't the 'go-to ' source they used to be.

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Response to MADem (Reply #104)

Thu Jun 11, 2015, 12:03 AM

122. An oldie, but goodie



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Response to mrdmk (Reply #122)

Thu Jun 11, 2015, 11:20 PM

134. +1 Great one!

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Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Wed Jun 10, 2015, 03:17 PM

7. He's ELIGIBLE for Israeli citizenship

 

due to the fact he's Jewish. That does not make him (or me or any other American Jew) dual citizens. It's a simple concept that both the far left and the far right seem to have trouble with.

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Response to leftynyc (Reply #7)

Wed Jun 10, 2015, 03:23 PM

11. it's not the far left or far right. it's just bigots.

 

bigots of that particular persuasion are fairly diverse in their overall political leanings.

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Response to leftynyc (Reply #7)

Wed Jun 10, 2015, 04:55 PM

88. The radio personality was apparently confusing an Israeli

Right of return law with citizenship.

Ireland has something similar...If your parent/grandparent (one or several) were citizens, then you can get citizenship too.

Lots of nations have laws on these lines. Since Israel is a new nation, the pool of eligible is everyone who qualified for citizenship when the nation was founded.

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Response to MADem (Reply #88)

Thu Jun 11, 2015, 05:12 AM

124. The personality was

 

duped by an antisemitic website and should have done her fucking job as a journalist before she made an age old antisemitic charge against Sen Sanders. There are no excuses for it.

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Response to leftynyc (Reply #124)

Thu Jun 11, 2015, 06:58 AM

125. Combative, much?

I am not endorsing, excusing or excoriating her actions. I barely am aware of this woman. I have heard her program a few times.

I realize she has a chronic condition that makes her voice shake and change timbre, I'd know if I was a regular listener. To be frank, if the interview isn't compelling, I'm changing the station, as that timbre isn't easy on the ears. If I hear her at all on my own accord, I'm in the car. If I hear her in a home setting, it's at the house of a family member who has NPR on around the clock.

I'm looking at the simple facts here and this is what I come up with:


--She is an older woman. Is she internet-savvy? Did she retrieve that material herself, or was it handled to her? If it was handled to her, who did that? Could she have been "Dan Rathered" ahead of the general election, to silence one of the few remaining liberal voices at NPR?


--She is a Arab Christian whose parents emigrated from non-Arab Turkey (what brought them to Turkey, I wonder?). Does she labor under ancestral biases that inform her perspective? What are those biases, if they exist? Were her ancestor Arab tenants in Palestine under an Ottoman landlord, for example? That could be a basis for formation of a point of view.

--She has apologized, used the S word (sorry) and said that she made a mistake. She did that quickly, too, no shilly shallying or trying to suggest she was misinterpreted. Is that enough, or should she apologize to every American of Jewish heritage? Was she confusing Right of Return laws under the Israeli constitution with actively-sought out dual citizenship, or was she being deliberate, and will she explain how she came to pursue this line of inquiry with Senator Sanders?



That's where I'm at. I'm not here to bury her, or to praise her. My pitchforks are staying in the barn for now, and I'm not lighting any torches either. I need more details as to what she was thinking, and how she came to think this angle was productive. The GOP are very good at getting their enemies to eat their own, and I'm not going to rush to judgment yet.

One thing that this incident does highlight is the reaction that people will naturally have when it's THEIR ox being gored. I've noticed, often, too, on this board and elsewhere how people with objections are told

--How they are supposed to feel, how they are supposed to think, and why their reactions are "wrong" or unfounded, or

--What the person saying the offensive comments/doing the offensive things actually MEANT, as though one's eyes or ears were somehow deceiving them.


I'm not in that club. That shit is a two-way street, too, so people who are concerned about this matter should take pains to keep their "empathy" caps close to hand when they see others upset about perceived slurs on the basis of gender, orientation or race. Very recently I have observed some people with hair on fire over this perceived insult who played the "Get over it" card when snarky remarks were made about Caitlyn nee Bruce Jenner, and when a crude spoonerism was lobbed at SOS Clinton. We all need to walk a kilometer (hat tip to Linc Chaffee) in our neighbors' flip-flops every now and again.

Sooooooo. ... No rush to judgment--we've got plenty of time to figure this out.

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Response to MADem (Reply #125)

Thu Jun 11, 2015, 07:25 AM

126. Knock yourself out

 

and try and get inside the head of this moron who calls herself a journalist. Seeing as the same "list" has shown up here on DU a number of times, perhaps you should start your psychoanalyzing abilities right here.

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Response to leftynyc (Reply #126)

Thu Jun 11, 2015, 07:35 AM

127. She has enjoyed a good reputation among liberals to this point.

Your response suggests that you didn't really read what I wrote at all..perhaps the smoke from your torch obscures your view..?

I see you're in a rush to judgment, so don't let me keep you...!

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Response to MADem (Reply #127)

Thu Jun 11, 2015, 08:10 AM

129. So you like her

 

and want to keep her "liberal" voice unsullied. I did read your entire post and found it thoroughly unconvincing. You would never make excuses for that if she weren't a 'liberal". You'd be calling for her head on a platter.

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Response to leftynyc (Reply #129)

Thu Jun 11, 2015, 08:35 AM

130. Now I KNOW you didn't read my post. You know what?

Go play your halfassed, Fight Club Gotcha game with someone who digs on that shit.

You obviously don't read before you snark, and I'm uninterested in mud wrestling with you. DU fail.

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Response to MADem (Reply #130)

Thu Jun 11, 2015, 09:56 AM

131. I'm also not interested

 

in someone who has a hissy fit when someone doesn't see the same things the same way. Just ask yourself if you'd be this sanguine if she were a right winger. Toodles.

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Response to leftynyc (Reply #131)

Thu Jun 11, 2015, 09:59 AM

132. Keep demonstrating that you did not read what I wrote!

Every double down a confession!

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Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Wed Jun 10, 2015, 03:19 PM

8. wow. that was ugly. she didn't ask him. she announced without hesitation

 

unambiguously,that he has dual U.S. Israeli citizenship. When he said in no uncertain terms that that claim is flat out false, she kept at it, saying he's on a list. She did not identify the list. She came off as a stupid, nasty bigot. Fuck that kind of "journalism". No better than Fox.

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Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Wed Jun 10, 2015, 03:22 PM

10. where did they get the list, st0rmfr0nt?

 

This is bad enough that someone should lose their job.

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Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Wed Jun 10, 2015, 03:23 PM

12. Figuratively skating on dangerously thin ice, IMO.

 

A hair's breath away from anti-Semitism. Disgraceful.

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Response to closeupready (Reply #12)

Wed Jun 10, 2015, 03:24 PM

13. whether she is or not, that little bit sure was.

 

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Response to cali (Reply #13)

Wed Jun 10, 2015, 03:26 PM

14. Absolutely agree.

 

And even if the question is posed artfully, pandering to anti-Semites is still anti-Semitism.

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Response to cali (Reply #13)

Wed Jun 10, 2015, 03:26 PM

16. I'm sure she had a staffer do the research, and the staffer probably

 

researches stuff on the Internet, and . . .

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Response to geek tragedy (Reply #16)

Wed Jun 10, 2015, 03:32 PM

19. if that's the case, that staffer needs to be fired pronto

 

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Response to cali (Reply #19)

Wed Jun 10, 2015, 03:36 PM

21. yep. The "dual citizen" stuff is very popular with the extreme conspiracy theory crowd.

 

so it's a pretty good sign that she has at least one real kook working for her

it used to be pretty common right here at DU.

https://www.google.com/search?q=%22dual+citizen%22+israel&sitesearch=democraticunderground.com&safe=active&gws_rd=ssl#safe=active&q=%22dual+citizen%22+israel+site:democraticunderground.com

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Response to geek tragedy (Reply #16)

Wed Jun 10, 2015, 03:42 PM

28. That may give her a pass she does not deserve..she has been in the business a long time.

Whoever gave her that bullshit is one thing, and one she should have been able to
conclude very easily as garbage. Also, a staffer does not to my knowledge tell her how to frame it, either.



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Response to Jefferson23 (Reply #28)

Wed Jun 10, 2015, 03:47 PM

34. for sure. there should be an investigation top down to determine just how

 

crazy-ass anti-Semitic crap got spewed on NPR.

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Response to geek tragedy (Reply #34)

Wed Jun 10, 2015, 03:50 PM

40. Absolutely. n/t

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Response to Jefferson23 (Reply #28)

Wed Jun 10, 2015, 05:02 PM

91. Yes! It shows a lack of professional discernment and discretion.

And it sounds like a clip from a Fox News audition.

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Response to Chiyo-chichi (Reply #91)

Wed Jun 10, 2015, 05:11 PM

94. Right now I am not buying the internet gaffe. She is a seasoned professional and it is too

difficult to understand how it went down as a gaffe. Look at how she reacts to Sanders
in the response from the transcript. One of her replies to him is: Interesting...and she keeps
going forward with it. He shuts it down.

If her staff wrote her a source stating, water is not actually wet and she went with it as
a source for her show and did not back down when addressed, she'd be laughed out of her
job. Here she is confronted with a bullshit source any sensible person who fits her job description
should recognize but she went with it anyway...pathetic.

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Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Wed Jun 10, 2015, 03:26 PM

15. diane channels mcarthy “I have here in my hand a list of 205 [State Department employees] that ..

 

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Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Wed Jun 10, 2015, 03:31 PM

18. I guess if she screamed "dirty Jew, dirty Jew" she'd be fired, but this was code for that.

Remember when NPR was respected? I guess "some people say" or "we've seen a list" counts for research and fact based reporting now.

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Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Wed Jun 10, 2015, 03:35 PM

20. There it is!

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Response to Behind the Aegis (Reply #20)

Wed Jun 10, 2015, 03:37 PM

22. but what a crying shame that it came from NPR

 

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Response to cali (Reply #22)

Wed Jun 10, 2015, 03:42 PM

27. Honestly, nothing surprises me anymore.

Sadly, he will have to deal with this over and over. What's really fucked up?! His stating, unequivocally, that is only an American, will still not be believed because "someone saw his name on a list". To think, just a few days ago, more than few were telling us his being Jewish "wouldn't be a big deal", "most people don't even know", Jews aren't "really" a minority.

It is what is.

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Response to Behind the Aegis (Reply #27)

Wed Jun 10, 2015, 03:49 PM

37. yeah a few days ago Bonobo was told "Bernie is white"

"so what's the big deal derp derp?"

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Response to cali (Reply #22)

Wed Jun 10, 2015, 07:30 PM

114. My NPR station doesn't carry her show at all

http://www.wbez.org/program-schedule/2015-06-10

Programming at NPR stations is done locally. Local stations choose what programs they wish to pick up and air. The Diane Rehm show, like most public radio shows, is syndicated. It's probably best to complain to your local station. Tell them you won't support them, etc.


EDITED to change embarrassing typo of "pubic" radio to "public." Honestly, it was just a typo.

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Response to Behind the Aegis (Reply #20)

Wed Jun 10, 2015, 04:09 PM

56. It's already been here.

We had one of our own a couple days ago admonishing us against calling Sanders a white man when he's actually a Jew.

It's easy to Never Forget when it never goes away.

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Response to Iggo (Reply #56)

Wed Jun 10, 2015, 09:20 PM

120. That's a pretty fucked up read of my OP, dude.

You're not doing yourself any favors.

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Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Wed Jun 10, 2015, 03:38 PM

23. Oh, don't go there

That's ugly, Diane.

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Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Wed Jun 10, 2015, 03:41 PM

25. Ms. Rehm needs to apologize for asking such an ugly and libelous question./NT

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Reply #25)

Wed Jun 10, 2015, 03:44 PM

31. she did not ask a question. she flat out accused him of having dual citizenship

 

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Response to cali (Reply #31)

Wed Jun 10, 2015, 03:46 PM

33. Thank you for pointing that out. That's even worse...

I believe she needs a time out or suspension where she can use the time for some sober self reflection.


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Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Wed Jun 10, 2015, 03:43 PM

29. Facebook/I never use it

Seems like it's a good place for troublemakers..

http://www.jewishjournal.com/mostthingsconsidered/item/did_npr_host_diane_rehm_just_accuse_bernie_sanders_of_being_an_israeli_citi


A cursory search on Google of “Bernie Sanders Israeli citizenship” shows that his name comes up in the comments section of the “We are all Vittorio Arrigoni” Facebook page. Arrigoni was an Italian pro-Palestinian activist who was kidnapped and murdered by non-Hamas Islamists in Gaza in April 2011. In the comments section of the Facebook page, on May 2 a user posted a list of senators and representatives who “have both Israel and U.S. citizenships.” Sanders is on the list. No source is given because the list is a total fabrication, not to mention created by an anti-Semite and anti-Zionist, which is given away by the fact that it says “Jewish Lobby”, “#israelwarcrime”, “AIPAC: Buying Congress one seat at a time”, “Rothschild”, and features an American flag with a Star of David replacing the 50 stars.

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Response to fadedrose (Reply #29)

Wed Jun 10, 2015, 03:48 PM

36. just about every prominent Jew in the US gets accused of being an Israeli

 

citizen by a certain crowd.

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Response to geek tragedy (Reply #36)

Wed Jun 10, 2015, 03:50 PM

39. It isn't limited to "prominent Jews"...

...at least two of us in this thread have been accused of it on more than one occasion.

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Response to Behind the Aegis (Reply #39)

Wed Jun 10, 2015, 03:53 PM

42. yes, prominent Jews and any Jew unfortunate enough to be in an argument

 

with a crazy person on the Internet.

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Response to fadedrose (Reply #29)

Wed Jun 10, 2015, 04:02 PM

49. I always wondered where that

 

"list" came from. She should be disgustingly embarrassed that she used it. She owes Sen Sanders a humbling, crawling apology.

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Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Wed Jun 10, 2015, 03:49 PM

38. Yikes! Time to retire, Ms. Rehm.

Before you embarrass yourself more!

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Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Wed Jun 10, 2015, 03:51 PM

41. I have a US/UK dual citizenship.

Who cares?

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Response to cwydro (Reply #41)

Wed Jun 10, 2015, 03:54 PM

43. You aren't running for president or the Parliment.

So you ask "who cares?" Two groups: anti-Semitic assholes who think Jews run the world and are more loyal to Israel, and Jews because we are constantly accused of...well, I have already said. I guess there is a third group, people who don't like anti-Semitism being hurled at Jews.

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Response to Behind the Aegis (Reply #43)

Wed Jun 10, 2015, 07:02 PM

113. True.

I jus think they're looking for anything to throw at Sanders.

They must be scared.

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Response to cwydro (Reply #41)

Wed Jun 10, 2015, 04:05 PM

54. people elected to government are generally not supposed to be loyal

 

to a foreign power.

this is the old 'dual loyalty' canard and it's shocking that someone would employ it without doing a fact check.

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Response to geek tragedy (Reply #54)

Wed Jun 10, 2015, 06:59 PM

112. I understand,

but I think this is ridiculous.

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Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Wed Jun 10, 2015, 03:58 PM

45. That's just nasty.

Did Karl Rove send you that list, Ms. Rehm? You're supposed to be a journalist. Do your research, don't just trust the party line.

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Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Wed Jun 10, 2015, 04:01 PM

48. It's an internet hoax.

NPR host Diane Rehm apparently fell for an internet hoax today when she falsely asserted that Vermont Senator and Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders held dual citizenship with Israel, forcing the Senator to snap back at the claim as “nonsense” on the internet and “absolutely not true.”

Sanders: I honestly don’t know but I have read that on the internet. You know, my dad came to this country from Poland at the age of 17 without a nickel in his pocket. He loved this country. I am, you know, I got offended a little bit by that comment, and I know it’s been on the internet. I am obviously an American citizen and I do not have any dual citizenship.

A quick Google search reveals Sanders’ name included in bizzare Facebook groups and forums that go back to 2008, purporting to list all former government officials holding dual Israeli-American citizenship.
http://www.salon.com/2015/06/10/diane_rehms_massive_bernie_sanders_oops_npr_host_falls_for_anti_semitic_israeli_citizenship_hoax/


I can't believe her researchers couldn't have figured that out from where the rumors were posted on the internet. Despicable.

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Response to octoberlib (Reply #48)

Wed Jun 10, 2015, 04:27 PM

68. She read it on teh Internets, so it must be true!!

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Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Wed Jun 10, 2015, 04:03 PM

51. In other words...

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Response to QC (Reply #51)

Wed Jun 10, 2015, 04:05 PM

53. Exactly.

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Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Wed Jun 10, 2015, 04:04 PM

52. Are you Blue-ish?

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Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Wed Jun 10, 2015, 04:06 PM

55. Sen. Joe McCarthy: "I have in my hands a list of card-carrying communists in the State Dept.

(Which was proven to be totally bogus lie.) Way back in the Red Scare/McCarthy era.

Very disappointed in Ms. Riehm

http://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/mccarthy-says-communists-are-in-state-department

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Response to Divernan (Reply #55)

Wed Jun 10, 2015, 05:05 PM

93. First thing that came to my mind...

 

Jesus wept.

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Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Wed Jun 10, 2015, 04:10 PM

57. Are you or are you not a communist...

This is bullshit on so many levels. The worst thing about this is that he has every right to have dual citizenship. I wouldn't care if he did. He shouldn't even have to answer to that accusation. If it was true he should be able to proudly or matter of factly or angrily say yes he does indeed have dual citizenship that he is indeed a proud American and he is indeed proud of his heritage.

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Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Wed Jun 10, 2015, 04:11 PM

58. And then she asked about other members of congress?!

 

What the everlovingfuck?!

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Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Wed Jun 10, 2015, 04:15 PM

59. Where the fuck did that come from?

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Response to Starry Messenger (Reply #59)

Wed Jun 10, 2015, 04:20 PM

62. I'll give you six pointed guesses...



It was only a matter of time. Though, I am a little surprised (despite my earlier claim) it appeared this early, and, well, I guess the source is a bit surprising.

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Response to Behind the Aegis (Reply #62)

Wed Jun 10, 2015, 04:25 PM

65. Right?

I guess I expect that crap from the National Review or Stormfront, not NPR.

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Response to Starry Messenger (Reply #65)

Wed Jun 10, 2015, 04:26 PM

66. I think the source took several people by surprsie.

However, I see it as reminder, anti-Semitism isn't just for "righties" anymore.

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Response to Behind the Aegis (Reply #66)

Wed Jun 10, 2015, 04:57 PM

90. Well, I hope she's fired.

I don't want my tax money going to supporting bigots!

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Response to Behind the Aegis (Reply #62)

Wed Jun 10, 2015, 04:37 PM

80. What better venue to launch such an attack than totebagger central?

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Response to Starry Messenger (Reply #59)

Wed Jun 10, 2015, 05:31 PM

99. Let's hope it didn't come from her upbringing -- in a Christian Arab

household. From Wikipedia:

She has written two autobiographical books. The first, Finding My Voice, dealt with her traditional upbringing in a Christian Arab household

I would think that a supposed liberal from a Christian Arab household would be more informed than she appeared when she basically told Bernie he was an Israeli citizen! My bet is that she knew damn well what she was doing and had her own reasons, not reasons from NPR or the Koch brothers.

If my supposition is true, it shows she has a real blind spot. I've listened to her fairly regularly and consider her to be mostly liberal, but Israel/Jewish religion may be something she's not liberal about.

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Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Wed Jun 10, 2015, 04:16 PM

60. I wonder if Rehm asked Rahm the same question!

 


His father is from Israel and Rahm even served in the Israel Defense Forces when the Gulf War broke out after the Clintons had him put on their campaign committee then...

And he selected our current president's cabinet!

http://mondoweiss.net/2008/11/what-did-rahm-emanuel-do-in-israel-in-91

The Rehm-per-room joins the Rahm-per-room!

So... Bernie deserves to field this question and Rahm Emanuel doesn't?

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Response to cascadiance (Reply #60)

Wed Jun 10, 2015, 04:36 PM

79. only ask the Jews i Don't like

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Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Wed Jun 10, 2015, 04:20 PM

61. Here's her contact page:

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Response to FSogol (Reply #61)

Wed Jun 10, 2015, 05:46 PM

101. Ijust sent a flaming email. Thx. nt

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Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Wed Jun 10, 2015, 04:23 PM

63. Glad to see people rejecting this nonsense, but the dual loyalty canard is routinely employed here

By DUers against other members or especially Jewish politicians who support the Jewish state.

I hope the outrage transcends Bernie Sanders, this is a common trope.

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Response to tritsofme (Reply #63)

Wed Jun 10, 2015, 04:29 PM

70. you act like it's never confronted here



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Response to tritsofme (Reply #63)

Wed Jun 10, 2015, 04:36 PM

78. I've seen it plenty here right on DU

 

accusations of dual loyalty ain't just for the right wing anymore. It's depressing.

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Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Wed Jun 10, 2015, 04:23 PM

64. The Koch Brothers keeping their promise to take him down. NPR receives funding from the Kochs now

Go BERNIE!

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Response to sabrina 1 (Reply #64)

Wed Jun 10, 2015, 04:27 PM

69. it has nothing to do with the kochs

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Response to JI7 (Reply #69)

Wed Jun 10, 2015, 04:31 PM

74. Haven't been keeping up with the Kochs, but we have. Nothing surprising at all about them doing

exactly as Bernie has publicly accused them of doing. So now they are spending some of their money to go after him, the sneaky and cowardly way.

But it will just backfire on them. Let them go debate him, rather than hire their usual tools to smear those who dare to tell the truth about them.

They are targeting him, as was reported. If you agree with this kind of behind the scenes tactic, fine, I do not. Even if it is against Republicans. It is destroying our electoral system and I hope that it does backfire on them, people are sick of it.

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Response to sabrina 1 (Reply #74)

Wed Jun 10, 2015, 04:35 PM

77. this is common attack against jewish people

It's like claiming racism against Obama is because of Kochs and ignores the history and bigotry that currently exists

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Response to JI7 (Reply #77)

Wed Jun 10, 2015, 04:55 PM

89. I think this particular incident has something more behind it

Diane Rehm is not noted for racist attacks, why this attack at this time on this particular person?

Very much out of character for her.

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Response to Fumesucker (Reply #89)

Wed Jun 10, 2015, 05:47 PM

102. See my OP for details on what is being offered as the official reason for why she did this:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026812327

Frankly I think she's taking the fall for whoever gave her the info, and from Bernie's campaign statement, I have a feeling they also believe she was set up. The site from which she supposedly got the 'the list' is clearly anti-semitic. Can't imagine why she would have been looking at such a site herself.

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Response to JI7 (Reply #69)

Wed Jun 10, 2015, 06:21 PM

107. It certainly had nothing to do with the TRUTH. So someone was trying to smear him

See her apology here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026812327

So my CT seems a bit more credible at this point than her CT.

Either she is not what people assumed she was, someone with credibility, or someone handed her a memo. And from an anti-semitic source at that.

This thread is feeding what is now known to be a lie.

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Response to sabrina 1 (Reply #64)

Wed Jun 10, 2015, 05:12 PM

95. the Kochs are more likely more anti-Hillary than anti-Bernie, because they think Hillary...

is more likely to win.

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Response to sabrina 1 (Reply #64)

Wed Jun 10, 2015, 07:38 PM

117. Please. As if there's a shortage of anti-Semitism on the Left.

 

Our side doesn't need the Kochs to parrot nasty, Jew-baiting slurs -- we've got that shit locked down.

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Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Wed Jun 10, 2015, 04:30 PM

71. Wow, she really screwed up and should be embarrassed and reprimanded.

"You're on the list"! That is a despicable act of pseudo-journalism. What list? Where did it come from? Who wrote it? Is the source even remotely credible? Sanders, politely said it wasn't true. He was too nice.

It is valid to ask if he has dual-citizenship. But what she did was disgusting.

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Response to BillZBubb (Reply #71)

Wed Jun 10, 2015, 04:31 PM

73. should all politicians be asked that?

 

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Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Wed Jun 10, 2015, 04:31 PM

72. He was very gracious

 

What insulting crap.

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Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Wed Jun 10, 2015, 04:35 PM

76. How ugly is that?

And Diane should disclose exactly who gave NPR the list.

Wow.

She's going a little too far right for my liking anymore.

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Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Wed Jun 10, 2015, 04:41 PM

82. Here is a link to contact the show and complain.

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Response to wilsonbooks (Reply #82)

Wed Jun 10, 2015, 04:49 PM

85. Thanks for the link

 

I asked them how it felt to be on the same plane as stormfront when it came to antisemitic garbage. I'm furious.

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Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Wed Jun 10, 2015, 04:43 PM

83. Haha..that's NOTHING!

If Bernie was the candidate, he would face millions of dollars in ads with rumors, lies, and CT's. He is practically defenseless.

All that's going on now are a few tests to see what could be used against him.

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Response to Sancho (Reply #83)

Wed Jun 10, 2015, 04:54 PM

87. color me not surprised that no only do you find rank antisemitism to be nothing, you think it's haha

 

funny.

disgusting and hypocritical to boot.

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Response to cali (Reply #87)

Wed Jun 10, 2015, 07:43 PM

118. Perhaps you have memory problems....

I already told you several times that Bernie Sanders would face attacks on being Jewish. Maybe I have a crystal ball?

NPR and Diane Rheme are the tip of the iceberg if you think that was something to get upset over. It was nothing like you will hear if Bernie is the Democratic candidate.

Yes, it's funny that some people are "clueless" after all the lies about Obama's birth certificate. Same thing about Benghazi! If you are going to spread unfounded attacks about Hillary or anyone else, then you won't mind if there are unfounded attacks on Bernie.

You decide. Do you want a list of targets you'll see next. I'll predict one more: Bernie's wife's finances! Let me know when that one shows up. It's a matter of time. After that one appears I'll predict another. I have a list.

Anything with a "possible" scandal, even if it's not true, will magically show up. Anything that can't be proven or unproven, but has a little hint of innuendo will be used as an ambush. You'll see.

You see Cali, if you live by the sword and die by the sword. You have no complaints since you are one of the purveyors of the exact same bashing.

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Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Wed Jun 10, 2015, 04:43 PM

84. Going to have to listen to this on the way home.

What crap.

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Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Wed Jun 10, 2015, 04:51 PM

86. Do you remember one of Rove's famous push polls?

 

"Would you vote for McCain if you knew he had fathered a black illegimiate child?"
it was disgusting and dirty, and against another Republican!!

Regardless of the affiliation of the person this is being done to...regrdless if this was a person I would vote for or not, I just wish this type of dirty politics would boomerang every singe time.

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Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Wed Jun 10, 2015, 05:02 PM

92. thanks for the link

 

Iam not familiar with Diane Rehm does she always sound like the way she sounds ?

If so maybe she should consider another line of work .

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Response to olddots (Reply #92)

Wed Jun 10, 2015, 05:26 PM

98. in recent years, she has a health problem that affects her voice

I think she had surgery to improve it and it helped somewhat, but not completely.

She's been doing her show a long time and didn't sound like that years ago.

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Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Wed Jun 10, 2015, 05:19 PM

96. who died and made her Orly Taitz?

has Trump jumped on this bandwagon yet?

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Response to Enrique (Reply #96)

Wed Jun 10, 2015, 05:20 PM

97. her source: "as I had read in a comment on Facebook"

 

Seriously, that's her story.

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Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Wed Jun 10, 2015, 05:37 PM

100. I like the way Bernie handled this

 

dignified ,classy and diplomatically .This is why he is my pick for 2016 .

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Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Wed Jun 10, 2015, 05:48 PM

103. Apology already out!

http://www.salon.com/2015/06/10/diane_rehms_massive_bernie_sanders_oops_npr_host_falls_for_anti_semitic_israeli_citizenship_hoax/

Update 4:27: Rehm apologized for relying on a Facebook comment and presenting the rumor as fact to the Senator in a statement to Politico:

On today’s show I made a mistake. Rather than asking Senator and Presidential Candidate Bernie Sanders whether he had dual U.S./Israeli citizenship, as I had read in a comment on Facebook, I stated it as fact. He corrected me, saying he did not know where the question came from. I apologized immediately,” Rehm said. “I want to apologize as well to all our listeners for having made an erroneous statement. I am sorry for the mistake. However, I am glad to play a role in putting this rumor to rest

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Response to MADem (Reply #103)

Wed Jun 10, 2015, 06:52 PM

111. she had no business asking it rather than asserting it.

 

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Response to cali (Reply #111)

Thu Jun 11, 2015, 07:43 AM

128. Well, she actually DID assert it.

I think there's more here than meets the eye.

I'm going to wait and see if there's more to the story. I think there is.

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Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Wed Jun 10, 2015, 06:08 PM

106. 'A list' - probably from some hate-site!

Bernie Sanders has actually got considerably more political links with the UK than Israel: his brother and nephew are Green activists and former councillors here in Oxfordshire.

Needless to say, Bernie does not have citizenship in either the UK or Israel!

Anti-semitic stereotyping!

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Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Wed Jun 10, 2015, 06:22 PM

108. Dear FSM, Diane!

 

That meme has been going around the intertubes for months. I've even seen it pop up here from time to time. Does the woman have any factcheckers at all?!

The list in question is in fact a list of every single Jewish member of Congress.

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