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Fri Jun 19, 2015, 01:10 AM

 

Anybody else find it odd that Roof was arrested without incident?

This is a known mass murder, a terrorist, armed and dangerous.

He's arrested without a mark on him.

Ditto for Timothy McVeigh, Mark Chapman, John Hinckley Jr., the Unabomber, BTK, and Ted Bundy.

Meanwhile we've seen what happens to unarmed blacks: Tamir Rice, Michael Brown, Walter Scott, Freddy Gray, Eric Garner, John Crawford, Icarus Randolph, Ezell Ford, Dante Parker . . .

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Reply Anybody else find it odd that Roof was arrested without incident? (Original post)
Damansarajaya Jun 2015 OP
nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #1
Half-Century Man Jun 2015 #2
Damansarajaya Jun 2015 #3
linuxman Jun 2015 #9
Solomon Jun 2015 #18
linuxman Jun 2015 #19
Rex Jun 2015 #27
LeftOfWest Jun 2015 #10
CBGLuthier Jun 2015 #4
Damansarajaya Jun 2015 #8
cwydro Jun 2015 #16
Damansarajaya Jun 2015 #43
uncle ray Jun 2015 #25
840high Jun 2015 #5
olddots Jun 2015 #6
Skittles Jun 2015 #7
Unknown Beatle Jun 2015 #11
cali Jun 2015 #12
Unknown Beatle Jun 2015 #14
Fawke Em Jun 2015 #46
malaise Jun 2015 #20
Igel Jun 2015 #34
malaise Jun 2015 #48
Marrah_G Jun 2015 #24
Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2015 #13
elias7 Jun 2015 #15
Lizzie Poppet Jun 2015 #40
Damansarajaya Jun 2015 #44
cwydro Jun 2015 #17
Skidmore Jun 2015 #21
Dorian Gray Jun 2015 #22
Marrah_G Jun 2015 #23
Gothmog Jun 2015 #26
progressoid Jun 2015 #28
Bethany Rockafella Jun 2015 #29
Shamash Jun 2015 #30
B2G Jun 2015 #31
cwydro Jun 2015 #33
LanternWaste Jun 2015 #38
B2G Jun 2015 #39
LanternWaste Jun 2015 #41
Comrade Grumpy Jun 2015 #47
Damansarajaya Jun 2015 #45
randome Jun 2015 #32
Taitertots Jun 2015 #35
Baitball Blogger Jun 2015 #36
One_Life_To_Give Jun 2015 #37
Paladin Jun 2015 #42
Throd Jun 2015 #49
Nye Bevan Jun 2015 #50

Response to Damansarajaya (Original post)

Fri Jun 19, 2015, 01:20 AM

1. Not particularly odd

 

more like yes, will say it, privilege

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Response to Damansarajaya (Original post)

Fri Jun 19, 2015, 01:21 AM

2. Another aspect of White Privilege.

White criminals are brought to justice, other-than-white criminals are brought down.

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Response to Half-Century Man (Reply #2)

Fri Jun 19, 2015, 01:30 AM

3. +1 well said! nt

 

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Response to Half-Century Man (Reply #2)

Fri Jun 19, 2015, 03:35 AM

9. Which explains our overwhelmingly white prison population.

 

Riiiiiiiiiight...

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Response to linuxman (Reply #9)

Fri Jun 19, 2015, 06:24 AM

18. lol

There's so much denial in your comment I don't know where to start. You take the prize. Stunning!

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Response to Solomon (Reply #18)

Fri Jun 19, 2015, 06:28 AM

19. I suppose a clapping smiley and lack of a coherent response is as good a place as any...

 

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Response to linuxman (Reply #19)

Fri Jun 19, 2015, 08:54 AM

27. LOL! As opposed to your non proof statement to begin with?

 

Pot meet kettle.

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Response to Half-Century Man (Reply #2)

Fri Jun 19, 2015, 03:42 AM

10. Exactly.

 

This.

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Response to Damansarajaya (Original post)

Fri Jun 19, 2015, 01:32 AM

4. McVeigh is a dumb example. He was initially arrested for having a gun under the seat.

Not for murdering 176 people.

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Response to CBGLuthier (Reply #4)

Fri Jun 19, 2015, 01:59 AM

8. He was arrested for driving without a license plate . . .

 

then the policeman saw his weapon.

http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-oklahoma-city-bombing-20150419-story.html#page=1

As McVeigh reached into his rear pocket for his driver's license, his windbreaker tightened, and Hanger noticed the bulge of a shoulder holster under his left arm. McVeigh was wearing a loaded Glock pistol and had a 6-inch knife on his belt.

"My gun is loaded," Hanger recalled McVeigh telling him as Hanger grabbed the bulge under the jacket.

"So is mine," the trooper responded, putting his own gun to McVeigh's head before arresting him for unlawfully carrying a concealed weapon. If he hadn't spotted the bulge, he would have let McVeigh go with a ticket.

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Response to CBGLuthier (Reply #4)

Fri Jun 19, 2015, 05:17 AM

16. Don't annoy those with an agenda.

This is stupid.

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Response to cwydro (Reply #16)

Fri Jun 19, 2015, 02:55 PM

43. What's the agenda? nt

 

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Response to CBGLuthier (Reply #4)

Fri Jun 19, 2015, 07:29 AM

25. and black people get killed for no crime whatsoever.

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Response to Damansarajaya (Original post)

Fri Jun 19, 2015, 01:40 AM

5. No. He went quietly.

 

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Response to Damansarajaya (Original post)

Fri Jun 19, 2015, 01:42 AM

6. the truth is on a roll here tonight

 

Kick this .

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Response to Damansarajaya (Original post)

Fri Jun 19, 2015, 01:44 AM

7. ditto for the DC killers

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Response to Damansarajaya (Original post)

Fri Jun 19, 2015, 03:46 AM

11. Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, one of the Boston bombers,

was found unarmed hiding in a boat and he came under a barrage of police gunfire. He wasn't white either but he was definitely a monster.

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Response to Unknown Beatle (Reply #11)

Fri Jun 19, 2015, 03:57 AM

12. Tsarnaev isn't white?

 

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Response to cali (Reply #12)

Fri Jun 19, 2015, 04:08 AM

14. Well, I guess being Russian is white.

A white Russian.

I stand corrected.

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Response to cali (Reply #12)

Fri Jun 19, 2015, 03:05 PM

46. Yeah - but he's Muslim.

That negates the white part.

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Response to Unknown Beatle (Reply #11)

Fri Jun 19, 2015, 06:38 AM

20. Are you freaking serious

He's as white as the region from whence he came. Indeed whiteness was defined there.

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Response to malaise (Reply #20)

Fri Jun 19, 2015, 09:31 AM

34. Yeah, but if you go back that far you wind up

with Ethiopians and Somalis being defined as "Caucasian". Most S. Asians were also considered "Caucasian," but I'm not sure that most consider M. Ghandi as white as the driven snow. It was based on the S. Caucasus, anyway, Georgians and Azeris. Dear Dzhohar was a northerner.

Of course, we'll ignore the fact that Azeri and Turkish and the bearers are these languages are close cousins. Turks, of course, were not Caucasians. Nor were Hungarians. I guess Hungarians are people of color but Asian Indians are white?

It used to mean something different than just "white." The redefinition happened later, and along the way the Caucasians (those who lived in the Caucasus) were taken as inferior examples of Caucasians (which came to mean, with a few other traits involving hair, skull, and nasal fossa, "white". The original Caucasians were assumed to have been driven out and Caucasian speakers supposedly moved in; Urartu, if I remember correctly, was a possible origin for them. The redefinition partially goes back to Bopp and Grimm and some of attempts to locate the Indo-European Urheimat in the Caucasis on the basis of reconstructed meaning and forms for words like "beech" and "salmon"; some of the redefinition occurred later in the 1800s.

Currently N. Caucasians are considered "dark skinned" or "swarthy" and discriminated against by Russians.

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Response to Igel (Reply #34)

Fri Jun 19, 2015, 06:53 PM

48. I defer to a clearly deeper understanding of the history of

that region

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Response to Unknown Beatle (Reply #11)

Fri Jun 19, 2015, 07:27 AM

24. He was wicked white....

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Response to Damansarajaya (Original post)

Fri Jun 19, 2015, 04:01 AM

13. Betcha FOX "News" would say it's because those guys followed the cop's orders.

 

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Response to Damansarajaya (Original post)

Fri Jun 19, 2015, 05:06 AM

15. No

The DC snipers Muhammmed and Malvo might be better comparisons than Tamir Rice et al. If you need to claim white privilege in this matter, sobeit. But you're OP is comparing apples and oranges.

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Response to elias7 (Reply #15)

Fri Jun 19, 2015, 11:00 AM

40. Precisely.

 

But let's not derail the poutrage train with reason, shall we?

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Response to elias7 (Reply #15)

Fri Jun 19, 2015, 03:01 PM

44. Yes, that is true. Were they armed at the time? nt

 

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Response to Damansarajaya (Original post)

Fri Jun 19, 2015, 05:19 AM

17. Didn't work out for

Bonnie and Clyde.

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Response to Damansarajaya (Original post)

Fri Jun 19, 2015, 06:55 AM

21. I find it odder that the smirking young man who was arrested yesterday

is on suicide watch this morning.

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Response to Skidmore (Reply #21)

Fri Jun 19, 2015, 07:14 AM

22. Yeah

if he didn't kill himself after the incident or when he was being arrested, he's not going to kill himself now.

I hope he survives to live through the hatred that the nation is going to heap on him. Life in prison. As a pariah. What he deserves.

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Response to Damansarajaya (Original post)

Fri Jun 19, 2015, 07:26 AM

23. He wants to be a martyr

But yes, police react differently when it's a black person.

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Response to Damansarajaya (Original post)

Fri Jun 19, 2015, 08:53 AM

26. Rachel Maddow had a great story about the North Carolina florist who saw Roof's car

It was a great segment

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Response to Damansarajaya (Original post)

Fri Jun 19, 2015, 08:57 AM

28. Sadly, not odd. Standard Operating Procedure in the US.

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Response to Damansarajaya (Original post)

Fri Jun 19, 2015, 08:59 AM

29. Also that guy down in Texas

That traveled all the way from Utah to Texas looking for his ex wife but the woman's family wouldn't tell where she was so he shot up and murdered the whole family including like 5 kids (one of them survived). He was missing for a bit but they finally surrounded him and they brought him in with not one bullet fired.

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Response to Damansarajaya (Original post)

Fri Jun 19, 2015, 09:02 AM

30. Given his racist attitude, I wonder if any of the arresting officers were non-white?

 

If they were, that would make the "arrested without incident" even more interesting.

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Response to Damansarajaya (Original post)

Fri Jun 19, 2015, 09:04 AM

31. So now we're upset that cops made a clean arrest?

 

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Response to B2G (Reply #31)

Fri Jun 19, 2015, 09:17 AM

33. I know, right?

DU can always find something to be upset about.

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Response to B2G (Reply #31)

Fri Jun 19, 2015, 10:49 AM

38. I think confusing "upset" with "curious" is a sub-literate mistake people sometimes make.

I think confusing "upset" with "curious" is a sub-literate mistake people sometimes make.

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Response to LanternWaste (Reply #38)

Fri Jun 19, 2015, 10:52 AM

39. My literary skills are just fine.

 

There are plenty of folks who are disappointed the Shelby police didn't beat the everloving crap out of him.

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Response to B2G (Reply #39)

Fri Jun 19, 2015, 11:00 AM

41. As long as one continues to confuse simplistic and easily defined words

As long as one continues to confuse simplistic and easily defined words, the observer is left to wonder if the confusion is merely sincere and stems from a lack of education, of if the confusion is intentional and predicated on no more than melodramatic bias.

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Response to LanternWaste (Reply #38)

Fri Jun 19, 2015, 03:06 PM

47. I bet you think you're smart with the way you try to insult people without getting hides.

 

But I find it obnoxious.

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Response to B2G (Reply #31)

Fri Jun 19, 2015, 03:03 PM

45. Of course not. Just pointing out how different races are treated differently. nt

 

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Response to Damansarajaya (Original post)

Fri Jun 19, 2015, 09:11 AM

32. Many mass killers kill themselves or opt for 'suicide by cop'. This one didn't.

 

Yes, there is an enormous difference in how police treat white killers and how they treat black suspects. But this isn't automatically another example of that.
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Response to Damansarajaya (Original post)

Fri Jun 19, 2015, 09:33 AM

35. I find it odd that the police are murdering innocent people

 

Taking someone into custody while following the law is not "odd".

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Response to Damansarajaya (Original post)

Fri Jun 19, 2015, 10:00 AM

36. No police pre-justice required, since he was white.

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Response to Damansarajaya (Original post)

Fri Jun 19, 2015, 10:27 AM

37. People like that seem to meet the police in one of two ways

Either going down in a Blaze of Glory like the Texas Univ. sniper Charles Whitman or North Hollywood shootout guys.

or

Arrested very passively with that stupid grin on their face.

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Response to Damansarajaya (Original post)

Fri Jun 19, 2015, 11:07 AM

42. I find it odd that he didn't kill himself....

....as is the usual practice for young, white, well-armed, psychotic mass murderers.

I am pleased that he's still alive and able to spew hateful racist invective. I think it will do the country good to see just how bad things have gotten.

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Response to Damansarajaya (Original post)

Fri Jun 19, 2015, 07:03 PM

49. Not really.

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Response to Damansarajaya (Original post)

Fri Jun 19, 2015, 07:09 PM

50. Weren't the Beltway Snipers arrested without incident? (nt)

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