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Fri Jun 19, 2015, 08:26 AM Jun 2015

New York Times Commenter Beautifully Exposes America's Racist Mainstream Right

from a comment in a New York Times article:

I am Irish. For many years in my native land the Rev. Ian Paisley spouted bigoted hatred about Catholics in Northern Ireland, but then claimed innocence when some militant sectarian group massacred Catholics. Speech was not murder, he said. He would never condone killing, he said. Then he went right back to feeding the attitudes that spawned the killing. Few were fooled.

We should not be fooled in America today.

In this country the "mainstream" right-wing has made an industry of demonizing African-Americans as "thugs" and criminals - just look at the divergence in tone between the recent coverage of Ferguson or Baltimore and the (mostly white) biker massacre in Waco, TX. For decades, white America has been told that black Americans are lazy leeches, dependent on hand-outs funded by your hard-earned taxes to bankroll their immoral lifestyles.

The first black president was greeted by the right not only with diehard obstructionism but a chorus of color-coded abuse ("lazy," "food-stamp president" etc) and questions about his very American-ness: he was "not one of us," a foreigner adhering to a foreign religion who has no right to be president.

The siren song of racial hate relentlessly put out by the "mainstream" right finds echo in the gunshots that rang out in Charleston.

Rightists will, of course, deny the connection, the way Paisley did. But we are not fooled.

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New York Times Commenter Beautifully Exposes America's Racist Mainstream Right (Original Post) kpete Jun 2015 OP
Brilliant... Blue_Tires Jun 2015 #1
K&R.... daleanime Jun 2015 #2
Donald Trump paid actors to applaud his racism on Tuesday GreatGazoo Jun 2015 #3
Racism is a form of self-loathing....who is more self-loathing, and racist, than Trump? Fred Sanders Jun 2015 #7
K & R!!!!! Thespian2 Jun 2015 #4
We had this discussion. Igel Jun 2015 #5
K&R nt Duval Jun 2015 #6
This is what is known as dog whistle language d_legendary1 Jun 2015 #8


(3,937 posts)
3. Donald Trump paid actors to applaud his racism on Tuesday
Fri Jun 19, 2015, 08:57 AM
Jun 2015

when he said things very similar to what the SC shooter said.

"When Mexico sends its people," Trump said during his presidential announcement, "they're not sending the best. They're not sending you, they're sending people that have lots of problems and they're bringing those problems. They're bringing drugs, they're bringing crime. They're rapists." -D Trump

$50 to applaud racism (and general lunacy):


Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
7. Racism is a form of self-loathing....who is more self-loathing, and racist, than Trump?
Fri Jun 19, 2015, 10:50 AM
Jun 2015

The GOP embracing racism in order to secure the racist vote has to be paid back with open derision....mass media, do your duty.


(35,417 posts)
5. We had this discussion.
Fri Jun 19, 2015, 09:55 AM
Jun 2015


It was clearly determined that the inflammatory speech that preceded Brinsley's hateful actions could not possibly have anything to do with what he did, whatever he himself may have said. Instead, mental illness was to blame.

It's a handy conclusion when it's a defensive argument and there's a cause to be protected; it's not when it's not defensive and in making it there's a cause to be advanced.

I agree to a large extent with the OP. I thought the defense of Brinsley was wrong-headed and self-serving.

Then again, I also find that some arguments made are a bit wrong. Take the "it wasn't race, it was an assault on Xianity." If that argument is sincerely made, I think it's a good thing: Then what's really important wasn't skin color but religion, and that helps obscure the racial divisions separating us and encouraging the hatred. And that's the real problem, people who insist on dividing and subdividing and making the divisions paramount while what unites us is trivial or less important. I'll take reasonable unity without victory over exultant victory without unity any day.


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8. This is what is known as dog whistle language
Fri Jun 19, 2015, 12:01 PM
Jun 2015

The racists pick up on these remarks (criminals, thugs) and already know that they are minorities. They need to be called out on that sort of code language that can arguably incite violence. I remember a would be shooter going out of his way to shoot progressives at the Tides Foundation after watching the Glenn Beck show. At that time nobody knew what the Tides Foundation was.


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