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akbacchus_BC

(5,704 posts)
Sat Jun 20, 2015, 05:34 AM Jun 2015

How will the Government of the US put in place a solution to gun control?

It may be a good idea for President Obama to talk to our PM Harper how Canada keeps guns out of the wrong hands. This is just a suggestion from my point of view, I could be wrong. According to the FBI, too many people in the US have access to guns, who should not have access.

Frankly, I do not believe that a 21 year old child should be able to purchase a gun on his/her own.

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How will the Government of the US put in place a solution to gun control? (Original Post) akbacchus_BC Jun 2015 OP
21 year old "child"? linuxman Jun 2015 #1
Sorry, but when you are a parent, a 21 year old is just a child! akbacchus_BC Jun 2015 #2
I get your gist, linuxman Jun 2015 #3
Thanks, and I was in no way trying to absolve Roof of the wrong doing, akbacchus_BC Jun 2015 #5
Rubbish. MicaelS Jun 2015 #4
No am not shifting the blame!! And by the way, who are you to question me? akbacchus_BC Jun 2015 #6
Who am I? I am an American. You are not. MicaelS Jun 2015 #8
Nonsense Shamash Jun 2015 #7
21 year old CHILD? Duckhunter935 Jun 2015 #9
I don't consider 21 to be a child. bigwillq Jun 2015 #10

akbacchus_BC

(5,704 posts)
2. Sorry, but when you are a parent, a 21 year old is just a child!
Sat Jun 20, 2015, 05:53 AM
Jun 2015

And I am not minimizing his crime. He did a horrible crime and am trying to understand how a 21-year old could be so racist! Somewhere, he had to have learnt that. Racists are not born, they are inculcated by people they look up to.

 

linuxman

(2,337 posts)
3. I get your gist,
Sat Jun 20, 2015, 06:11 AM
Jun 2015

but every parent feels that way. I'm nearly 30, I make a very comfortable living, left home at 18, and my mother still tries to slip me $20 for gas when I visit, refers to me as her little boy, and often expresses other sentiments that lead me to believe she's forgotten my true age. If that were somehow applied to laws and societal standards though, we'd all be truly fucked. Parents infantalize their kids, no doubt. Let's not expand that particular behavior to adults we don't know, much less mass murdering scum like asshole.

akbacchus_BC

(5,704 posts)
5. Thanks, and I was in no way trying to absolve Roof of the wrong doing,
Sat Jun 20, 2015, 06:25 AM
Jun 2015

What he did was abominable, shattered the lives of 9 people in a community in a church no less along with the survivors. To me, a Church is a sanctuary and he planned to target that Church, which makes it even sadder. Even more sadder is that he sat with the congregation during the bible study for an hour and still had the gall to shoot them. That is so incomprehensible!

Let me explain, am not from North America and we feel responsible for our children even when they are past 18. At 18, they just finished high school and need parents to help them economically through College and University.

MicaelS

(8,747 posts)
4. Rubbish.
Sat Jun 20, 2015, 06:14 AM
Jun 2015

It is helicoptering parenting to the extreme. A 21 year old is legally a full adult in the US in all respects. You are attempting to shift the blame away from Roof to someone or something else. Hold the shit accountable for actions and quit trying to shift the blame. You will not get anywhere with people in this country by calling a full adult "a child".

akbacchus_BC

(5,704 posts)
6. No am not shifting the blame!! And by the way, who are you to question me?
Sat Jun 20, 2015, 06:30 AM
Jun 2015

I do not even feel sorry for the guy as he premediated the attack on the Church members, even though they welcomed him with open arms. It takes someone with out any feelings to sit with people for an hour and then kill them. He is accountable and even though I do not care for the death penalty, he deserves it. However, I want him to live longer and realise the magnitude of his crime.

MicaelS

(8,747 posts)
8. Who am I? I am an American. You are not.
Sat Jun 20, 2015, 06:40 AM
Jun 2015

You are an outsider attempting to lecture Americans about internal policy.

 

Shamash

(597 posts)
7. Nonsense
Sat Jun 20, 2015, 06:37 AM
Jun 2015

Old enough to legally:

1) Marry
2) Smoke
3) Buy liquor
4) Serve in the military

Is not a child. You're just embarrassing yourself with this post.

 

Duckhunter935

(16,974 posts)
9. 21 year old CHILD?
Sat Jun 20, 2015, 10:00 AM
Jun 2015

what bullsquat, he is fully an adult a and has been for three years. Since you think he is not mature and is just a CHILD, should he have the right to vote or drink? That SOB is responsible for his own actions.

 

bigwillq

(72,790 posts)
10. I don't consider 21 to be a child.
Sat Jun 20, 2015, 10:11 AM
Jun 2015

I think the whole system needs to be changed, although I am one that does not believe that a ban on guns is the only solution. If someone wants to get a gun, they will find a way, regardless of how many laws are on the books. And even if guns are banned, if someone wants to kill someone, they will find a way, with or without a gun. I know a lot of folks are being killed by gun violence, but there's a lot of folks that own a gun responsibly. I really don't know what the solutions are. It seems like folks that commit these mass killings are intent on killing, and that, to me, is the biggest issue. Guns are certainly the weapon of choice with a high kill rate. If one uses a gun, the chances are high it will strike its intended target. I'm not sold on the idea that if guns are banned, the violence will stop. I think in many cases, those folks intent on killing will just find another weapon to use.

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