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TheOther95Percent

(1,035 posts)
Mon Jun 22, 2015, 08:53 AM Jun 2015

Council on Conservative Citizens Defends Legitimacy of Some of Roof's Claims



http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2015/06/council-conservative-citizens-dylann-roof

In the statement, the council condemns "Roof’s murderous actions," but goes on to warn that "our society's silence about [such] crimes—despite enormous amounts of attention to 'racially tinged' acts by whites—only increase the anger of people like Dylann Roof. This double standard *only makes acts of murderous frustration more likely* [emphasis theirs]. In his manifesto, Roof outlines other grievances felt by many whites. Again, we utterly condemn Roof’s despicable killings, but they do not detract in the slightest from the legitimacy of some of the positions he has expressed."
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Council on Conservative Citizens Defends Legitimacy of Some of Roof's Claims (Original Post) TheOther95Percent Jun 2015 OP
Words fail me.... peacebird Jun 2015 #1
+1! Rhiannon12866 Jun 2015 #5
+1 marym625 Jun 2015 #6
The Feds need to treat the CCC as the terrorist organization it is. MohRokTah Jun 2015 #2
Ha! When I read the statement from CCC, I couldn't help but think of even some posters here Coventina Jun 2015 #9
Tell me again what a lone wolf one-off Mr. Roof is supposed to be? gratuitous Jun 2015 #3
I would hope that the FBI is investigating this group. yardwork Jun 2015 #4
From the article notadmblnd Jun 2015 #7
SPLC links about Council of Conservative Citizens Bluenorthwest Jun 2015 #8
fuck this fucked up 'council' and every single one of it's fucking members spanone Jun 2015 #10
FBI 2013 Hate Crime Statistics struggle4progress Jun 2015 #11
"warn that "our society's silence about crimes" That's nice. I'm SURE they're talking about... BlueJazz Jun 2015 #12
So, they've finally climbed from underneath their rocks MrScorpio Jun 2015 #13

Coventina

(27,172 posts)
9. Ha! When I read the statement from CCC, I couldn't help but think of even some posters here
Mon Jun 22, 2015, 10:18 AM
Jun 2015

who "condemn the killings, but....."
in reference to the Charlie Hebdo, et. al.

Terrorism is terrorism is terrorism.
You can't make up reasons to kill people.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
3. Tell me again what a lone wolf one-off Mr. Roof is supposed to be?
Mon Jun 22, 2015, 09:01 AM
Jun 2015

Because the Council's statement sure reads like a manifesto of justification for murder because someone, somewhere, got frustrated about something. Well, not something racial, since it's never about race, but something that might be frustrating.

yardwork

(61,703 posts)
4. I would hope that the FBI is investigating this group.
Mon Jun 22, 2015, 09:07 AM
Jun 2015

Which will be a little awkward, given their connections to so many Republican candidates.

notadmblnd

(23,720 posts)
7. From the article
Mon Jun 22, 2015, 09:31 AM
Jun 2015
Council of Conservative Citizens

The manifesto refers to the council as a source of research into "black on White crime." The council is a conservative group with white supremacist leanings, considered by the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) to be part of the "neo-confederate movement." It was founded by members of Citizens' Councils of America, also known as White Citizens Councils, a confederation of segregationist groups active until the 1970s. In more recent years, the Council of Conservative Citizens has made the news when it was revealed that former US Senate Majority Leader Trent Lott had given speeches to the group. It was also extremely active in the demonstrations to keep the Confederate battle flag flying over the state capitol of South Carolina between 1993 and 2000.
 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
8. SPLC links about Council of Conservative Citizens
Mon Jun 22, 2015, 10:12 AM
Jun 2015

First is an overview of the group:
http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-files/groups/council-of-conservative-citizens

An article about the recent death of the group's founder:

As family and friends of Gordon Baum, founder and CEO of the Council of Conservative Citizens (CCC), gather to lay him to rest, the future of one of the oldest and most influential hate groups in the United States remains uncertain.

Baum, a former personal injury lawyer in the St. Louis area, formed the CCC in 1985 from the mailing lists of the White Citizens Councils of America (formally called the Citizens Councils of America). At the height of its influence, the CCC reached a membership of 15,000 with real political clout, including the membership of former Congressman Bob Barr (R-Ga.) and then-Senate Majority Leader Trent Lott (R-Miss.).

The end of Baum’s 30-year tenure at the CCC leaves a major void at the heart of an organization for which he was the bedrock. But, in the wake of Baum’s passing, discord already has emerged.
http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2015/03/09/future-of-the-council-of-conservative-citizens-unknown-after-founders-passing/

 

BlueJazz

(25,348 posts)
12. "warn that "our society's silence about crimes" That's nice. I'm SURE they're talking about...
Mon Jun 22, 2015, 10:36 AM
Jun 2015

...the real estate boom and the phony mortgage companies and the Banks that committed fraud and the people that set up "Trust funds" to avoid paying their share of taxes, plus corporations moving to Timbuktu and letting the workers live on the street and people like the Disney folks who fired workers and then had the same people to train low-wage foreigners for the same job...and...

Sounds like a wonderful bunch of caring people.


MrScorpio

(73,631 posts)
13. So, they've finally climbed from underneath their rocks
Mon Jun 22, 2015, 10:41 AM
Jun 2015

Now is the time for other whites especially to take the fight to them.

This is where the line is drawn.

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