My Wife: 'See? You brothers just stood there looking at it. It took a sister to take it down.'

[Playinghardball]

TheObamaCAT ?@TheObamaCat

My Wife: 'See? You brothers just stood there looking at it. It took a sister to take it down.'

True! 😂

#FreeBree

10:13 AM - 27 Jun 2015

http://theobamadiary.com/2015/06/27/chat-on-108/

[dixiegrrrrl]

1. I hear that!

[lunatica]

2. Your wife is one smart woman!

[Stellar]

17. Agreed!

[lunatica]

18. Great video! Thanks!

[Stellar]

21. +1

[snagglepuss]

3. Given that so many black men are being shot to death by police for no reason

at all, I think that comment is grossly unfair.

[Cal Carpenter]

4. It is happening to black women too, but they don't hit the news cycle as much

I think that is grossly unfair.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/02/13/black-womens-lives-matter-police-shootings_n_6644276.html
http://mic.com/articles/117228/black-women-continue-getting-killed-by-police-why-aren-t-more-people-discussing-it
http://wagingnonviolence.org/2015/05/nationwide-protests-bring-attention-black-women-killed-police/
http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-women-police-list-20150623-story.html

It isn't easy or safe out there for women of color either.

[kath]

8. +100

[snagglepuss]

15. I did not mean to slight her bravery however I don't think it fair to

insinuate that the black men who were there are coward, no black person can be faulted for being prudent is such situations.

[lunatica]

19. Being a woman climber isn't an insult to men

No matter what color. But every once in a while a women does something that you think only men do and a pride of gender shows itself. Why not celebrate that instead of taking offense?

[snagglepuss]

26. She can and should praised for what she did however there

is no reason to dis others who didn't do what she did. I object to putting anyone down, to elevate someone else. Her merit stands on its own.

[Fairgo]

51. It was a heroic act of community

that defies a symbol of exclusion. The OP puts an asterisk next to the act that specifies who is worthy to be included in its reflected collective ownership...and who is not. The OP could have chosen to celebrate the person, the act and even the fact that a woman stood for us. But the frame is, undeniably, "not a brother". Fortunately, its just a fart in church (i believe that the slur was not the intent of the poster). The act and the woman transcend it all. She is my hero. Her act speaks for me. How about you?

[snagglepuss]

56. I think you should read Post #25 by Heaven05 before dismissing

the slur quoted in the OP as simply "a fart in a church".

[Fairgo]

57. Your point is valid

The insinuation is doubly harmful because it negates the community spirit of inclusion that the defiant act represents AND it treads on old and poisoned ground it's implied denegration of men in the course of that exclusion. As another act of community, I simply tried to create a path to save face, walk the slur back, and return to the uplifting celebration of her brave act. However, what followed was a flurry of sad and small bigotries wher DU regulars compete to see which of us was unworthy of inclusion in this celebration. Your point stands, sadly. As a group, we regress to a shameful mean.

[Cal Carpenter]

20. I didn't insinuate *anyone* is a coward

I'm just sick of black women being ignored as though they aren't as vulnerable to systemic racism and police violence as black men are. And on several posts on this very thread, people are making it clear that they either don't know or don't care that black women are not only being killed by cops and other racists, they are being ignored by the media and forgotten in the national conversation about these problems. My goal is only to point out the misinformation that you and others are spreading.

If you have a problem with the dude who tweeted it, take it up with him.

[Starry Messenger]

24. Boom!

[JustAnotherGen]

27. Thank you cal

[heaven05]

30. yes you did

period. No one here in their right mind has ignored the murder and executions of black women. No one here that I have read have dissed the black woman by inferring she does not face the same institutional and systemic racism all POC face. Your "goal" is suspect to me. The one who tweeted it? WRONG!!!!! At this time in history.

[Cal Carpenter]

33. You misunderstand me, man

Three people on this very thread have implied that black woman are not vulnerable like black men in terms of systemic racism and violence by cops.

I was just trying to speak up for those women. I've seen it here time and time again, and in real life, in my own community, when unarmed black women are killed by cops or other racists and there is no outcry, there is barely a mention until some people start agitating about it.

I'm sorry I was part of opening a wound for you. I am sincere about that. I think if you read my other posts here about racism, police brutality and murder, etc, you will see I have no suspicious agenda.

[rhett o rick]

60. I agree. Had it been a black male, he might have gotten shot. nm

[DinahMoeHum]

5. Goes to show you: "Roosters Crow, But Hens Deliver"

[JaneyVee]

6. That bottom photo is an instant icon. It will be in textbooks and archives.

Great pic.

[kath]

9. yes! That photo is fantastic!

[MohRokTah]

7. Yes, but a black man stood a much better chance...

Of being shot by a cop while he did it!

[cwydro]

10. A lot of loudmouths on DU

kept saying this should happen

They didn't do it.

We all know who they are.

[JaneyVee]

11. Do you think it should have happened?

[cwydro]

16. Hell to the yeah.

Just laughing that none of the social justice warriors here would do such a thing.

Bree is from my city, and I am proud of her.

[heaven05]

28. You don't know

what I would do if I could, I laugh at the assumptions on this thread about black men. I am very proud of ms. Newsome also, but not at the expense of dignity and pride and courage that black men carry, ALSO!

[cwydro]

31. Misunderstanding here.

I'm actually making fun of the WHITE posters here.

None of whom did a damn thing despite clamoring for the flag to come down.

[bravenak]

38. Lol! True...

[cwydro]

40. Thank you for noticing.

A lot of yammering here that goes nowhere. Nothing but white folks bitching about that flag. No one on DU took that flag down.
So they need to shut the f up.

I certainly meant NO disrespect for black men.

As a female however, lol, I always think we women will get WHATEVER needs to be done, DONE.

[bravenak]

43. I'm proud to be a woman too. Nothing wrong with feeling pride in female accomplishments.

We always do what needs done.

[cwydro]

44. Yes ma'am.

[bravenak]

46. !

[snagglepuss]

41. Dollars to donuts if a white person did that you'd be

claiming whites wanted to show black people up, that white were acting paternalistic.

And how exactly do you know who is white on this thread?

[cwydro]

42. I know who isn't white.

Otherwise, I have no idea what you are talking about.

[snagglepuss]

47. You said "I'm making fun of white posters here"

How do you know who is white?

[cwydro]

49. Oh for crying out loud.

I have been on DU for almost ten years. I sure do know those who are AA or not. Usually they speak up about that fact, as I do that I am gay.

And as a white person, sadly, it is pretty effing obvious when a poster IS white.

What is your problem? Embarrassed that a young AA woman climbed that flagpole and did what no one here had the guts (or physical ability) to do?

Get off your silly soapbox and congratulate this young woman.

[mythology]

50. By that logic, you didn't take it down either

So obvious lack the guts or physical ability to do so.

[cwydro]

52. Of course,

no way could I climb a flagpole.

Just laughing at all the keyboard warriors here recently.

[MohRokTah]

48. Pssssst....

Did you get a look at James Tyson?

[awoke_in_2003]

55. I didn't have the money or the time

for a 24 hours drive.

[davidn3600]

12. A black man would have been shot

Rednecks and cops would be more hesitant to shoot a woman.

[PeaceNikki]

13. That fucker murdered 6 women and 3 men at the church. Racists aren't afraid to kill women.

[Brickbat]

14. THAT'S RIGHT.

[cwydro]

22. You go girl.

It will be the women who will change this country.

[CTyankee]

23. Honestly, I felt in my gut that someone would try this and couldn't figure out how

in all good conscience anyone would seriously stop them.

I absolutely love Bree. What a courageous and strong woman. She hurt no one. I'm glad Michael Moore stepped up and said he'd pay for any expenses she would incur as a result of her heroic action. In fact, I thought for sure more people, esp. celebrities, would step up.

I am in awe and respect of Bree.

[Quayblue]

32. me too

And never would have expected this. I'm awed.

[heaven05]

25. I was going to let this pass, but no

So the consequence of Ms Newsome taking down the confederate rag which is back up by the way, and I DO COMMEND HER COURAGE AS A POC with principle, is, inferred, that black men are cowards, shiftless and/or lazy. Yet reading this thread's title and content/responses shows me the black male is seen as a coward for not doing this act. I take extreme exception to the divisive nature of the OP comment and most of the responses, and I don't give a damn where the OP originated. The bravery of many a POC who happened to be male that has sacrificed blood and life so all can be free has been openly spit upon and does those enemies of POC proud. The black male can be relegated to the back room again while the black woman stands up for black pride. And oh, he's probably drunk back there in the back room anyway. But I digress.

The nature of this OP goes back historically to some bad times and is repeating a generations old mistake of giving all respect to the black woman and while inferring nay saying no courage in that black "boy". Historically that has always been a tool of division among black people generated and perpetuated by the controlling racist forces of this country. I AM DISGUSTED! And it has, this OP, opened a wound in me from many battles, both internally and externally, against the racist forces in this country.. Aww fuck, you all want to keep division in the ranks be my guest, but this is disappointing to me, in a big way dammit.

[Quayblue]

29. I definitely can understand your angst

As there are many, MANY, black men in the trenches as well.

We can give appreciation and credit to all fighters, no matter where and how they choose to fight, without taking away from others.

[JustAnotherGen]

54. I get it

I don't know how to put it into words -

Maybe -

The ones who have protected us when they could - were always black men.

[MADem]

59. DU of late never misses an opportunity to try to DIVIDE on issues that should unite us all.

Makes ya wonder...!!! Here's my take:

Isn't it nice that this human being engaged in a powerful and visual protest.

Isn't it cool that this person was a woman!!

Isn't it neat that she was a black American, because that flag was proudly waved as a symbol of the "whiteness rightness" of oppressing a large portion--and that would be the BLACK portion-- of American society!

I mean...shit. It's ALL GOOD!!! I can't understand why there should be ANY discussion of what men did or didn't do, or what black men did or didn't do. It's just not the point. Would it have been better if ten people went up the pole? Or a team? A man, a woman, a child?

I mean, really--it was a great protest. It was beautifully executed.

So here's what I say: Good for HER! We should cheer for her, and not worry about anything else.

Because anything else is just ... noise.

[mnhtnbb]

34. She is an exceptionally well trained and educated film maker

as well as civil rights activist.

http://www.breenewsome.com/

She is a unique individual--that is not to say a young Spike Lee might not have done the same--but
I don't think her sex had as much to do with her actions as her identity as a film maker did.

She created an extremely theatrical moment and I applaud her for doing it.

[madaboutharry]

35. I want to applaud this woman.

She made all decent Americans proud today.

[KauaiK]

36. I have always said it will be the women, the sisters, who will change the world

Women are emotionally and intellectually stronger. Females face adversity head on.

First they ignore you
Then they laugh at you
Then they fight you
Then you win.

[starroute]

37. There's an IndieGoGo to raise bail for Bree and future actions

It started this morning with a goal of $20,000 and is already coming up on $70,000.

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/bail-for-bree-newsome#/story

[realFedUp]

39. She was magnificent.

Wish I had those skills

[TRoN33]

45. Let put this quote into the history books.

It's very famous along with bravery act of this climber!

[Number23]

53. Damn right!

[Rosco T.]

58. Serious question. Have they put it back up yet?

.. or is this a 'lets just not make it worse' thing?