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Sun Jun 28, 2015, 10:49 AM

Any linguists on DU?

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I'm working on a project for July 4th and need some assistance. We're wanting to make some hand-lettered posters featuring "Welcome!" in other languages. The European languages are no problem, but we're having difficulty finding other examples that we can readily replicate; the pages I've found on google show text that loses resolution when I try to enlarge it.

So, as I often do, I'm turning to DU for help. Specifically, we need:

Somali
Greek
Japanese
Hebrew
Arabic
SE Asia languages

Thanking you in advance!

Update: Appreciate all the suggestions. I'm not the computer geek in the family, and the 9-year-old neighbor who usually helps me navigate the netz (while rolling his eyes at my old lady ineptitude) is away visiting grandparents. So your time and effort is doubly appreciated! I'll let you know how it all turns out.

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Reply Any linguists on DU? (Original post)
madamesilverspurs Jun 2015 OP
wyldwolf Jun 2015 #1
msanthrope Jun 2015 #2
Gidney N Cloyd Jun 2015 #9
JustABozoOnThisBus Jun 2015 #19
pinboy3niner Jun 2015 #22
uncle ray Jun 2015 #28
JaneyVee Jun 2015 #3
Brickbat Jun 2015 #4
jberryhill Jun 2015 #5
Brickbat Jun 2015 #8
jberryhill Jun 2015 #13
SidDithers Jun 2015 #16
Aerows Jun 2015 #23
madamesilverspurs Jun 2015 #24
madamesilverspurs Jun 2015 #25
jberryhill Jul 2015 #32
madamesilverspurs Jul 2015 #33
enlightenment Jun 2015 #6
stevenleser Jun 2015 #7
LuvNewcastle Jun 2015 #31
Panich52 Jun 2015 #10
Igel Jun 2015 #11
tblue37 Jun 2015 #12
hunter Jun 2015 #14
Name removed Jun 2015 #15
SidDithers Jun 2015 #17
Name removed Jun 2015 #20
JustABozoOnThisBus Jun 2015 #18
Aerows Jun 2015 #21
pinboy3niner Jun 2015 #26
valerief Jun 2015 #27
seveneyes Jun 2015 #29
Art_from_Ark Jun 2015 #30

Response to madamesilverspurs (Original post)

Sun Jun 28, 2015, 10:52 AM

1. I want to go there so bad... but can't....

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Response to wyldwolf (Reply #1)

Sun Jun 28, 2015, 10:53 AM

2. That was my first thought on seeing the thread title, too.....nt

 

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Response to wyldwolf (Reply #1)

Sun Jun 28, 2015, 11:20 AM

9. Wait for an opening.

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Response to wyldwolf (Reply #1)

Sun Jun 28, 2015, 01:37 PM

19. I think I just did

a few posts below ...

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Response to wyldwolf (Reply #1)

Sun Jun 28, 2015, 01:43 PM

22. Serious replies only--no punning linguists allowed!

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Response to wyldwolf (Reply #1)

Sun Jun 28, 2015, 06:04 PM

28. as long as you don't try to perform any stunts, we'll be ok.

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Response to madamesilverspurs (Original post)

Sun Jun 28, 2015, 10:55 AM

3. I speak/write Russian, French, and Spanish, but...

 

None of the above languages. Sorry.

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Response to madamesilverspurs (Original post)

Sun Jun 28, 2015, 10:58 AM

4. Use google translate.

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Response to Brickbat (Reply #4)

Sun Jun 28, 2015, 11:01 AM

5. Yeah, I don't understand the issue

 

There are scalable fonts for any script and "welcome" is not one that Google translate gets wrong.

Kind of an odd request, and I don't quite understand the problem.

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Response to jberryhill (Reply #5)

Sun Jun 28, 2015, 11:03 AM

8. Also, "langauges of SE Asia," LOL.

How many dozens does the OP want?

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Response to Brickbat (Reply #8)

Sun Jun 28, 2015, 01:02 PM

13. Yeah

 

seems a little jiggery-pokery is afoot.

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Response to jberryhill (Reply #13)

Sun Jun 28, 2015, 01:33 PM

16. Nice...



Sid

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Response to jberryhill (Reply #13)

Sun Jun 28, 2015, 01:44 PM

23. We need MADem's input

 

He's clearly our resident language expert

That was so damn funny I'm still laughing!

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Response to Brickbat (Reply #8)

Sun Jun 28, 2015, 03:57 PM

24. Sorry --

looking primarily for Vietnamese and Cambodian; Korean would also be helpful.

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Response to jberryhill (Reply #5)

Sun Jun 28, 2015, 03:58 PM

25. Problem is

that I'm looking for signage more than pronunciation guides. So far it's been half and half.

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Response to madamesilverspurs (Reply #25)

Wed Jul 1, 2015, 09:26 AM

32. Would love to see pictures of the signs when they are done

 


Will you post them?

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Response to madamesilverspurs (Original post)

Sun Jun 28, 2015, 11:02 AM

6. "Welcome" in many languages.

I think they are clear enough to read - try using the 'zoom' feature of your browser, as it will increase the text size (I checked in Firefox to be sure).

http://www.omniglot.com/language/phrases/welcome.htm

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Response to madamesilverspurs (Original post)

Sun Jun 28, 2015, 11:02 AM

7. In Somali, welcome = Soo Dhawoow

 

Hebrew: בְּרוּכִים הַבָּאִים - [ brukhim ha-ba'im ]

Japanese: Yōkoso!

Greek: Kalós orísate

Arabic: ahlan wa sahlan

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Response to stevenleser (Reply #7)

Sun Jun 28, 2015, 07:14 PM

31. That's the translation using the Roman alphabet.

There seems to be an attempt to use Hebrew letters, at least, but they don't look quite right to me. The other 3 are wrong, unless the OP wants to make phonic translations for Americans, western Europeans, etc.

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Response to madamesilverspurs (Original post)

Sun Jun 28, 2015, 11:59 AM

10. Don't know if this will be any help, but when I open Flickr, it greets me in different language each

time, and IDs it (last time was in Tagalog). Sorry that's all the aid I can offer.

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Response to madamesilverspurs (Original post)

Sun Jun 28, 2015, 12:04 PM

11. Sure. But Google is better.

(Sorry, lots of grad classes in general linguistics, mostly syntax; ABD in Slavic languages, mostly historical and phonology; with all the ancillary "you should also study ____________ language" under my belt. Missed Sanskrit, though. Pity.)

Once put together this kind of list for a friend. Damned irritating. Plagiarism is better. (Okay, cite the source and call it "research". There. That upholds professional ethics.)

But Google's better. It's done your work for you.

http://www.omniglot.com/language/phrases/welcome.htm
http://www.freelang.net/expressions/welcome.php
http://www.word2word.com/howto/welcomead.html

I like the Omniglot source because it keeps the original orthography. Although, to be honest, you could have "Screw you" for most of the languages, tell people it said "welcome," and the admirers would tell you what a great job you did.

Caveat: All of them will contain mistakes. That's life. The Polish and Serbian translations at Omniglot (most others, too) are for multiple people only (and including at least one male, at that). The Bulgarian uses two different words, but don't make that mistake--but you have to decide if you're talking one man, one woman, or a group, whichever word you use.

Caveat 2: How you say "welcome" in any situation is likely to depend on a lot of variables. In English, we just say "welcome." Or perhaps "mi casa es su casa." Or "make yourself at home." Or "good to see you" or "come on in." Speakers of another languages may say the word translated as 'welcome' when we do, or at other times. They may just be a greeting, "Welcome!" or also fit in with "Welcome to the United States" (as opposed to "You're welcome to the edamame". As with the English variants, they may vary socially and stylistically in ways that are different from English.

For example, the Czech version at Omniglot is a pain, and I'd want to throttle whoever produced that mess, as it goes from "welcome" (informal) to "welcome" formal" to variants like "I greet you" or "we greet you." "Vitejte" is probably what you're after. Unless it's one person you know well, then "Vitej". Yeah, there's an accent over the "i".

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Response to madamesilverspurs (Original post)

Sun Jun 28, 2015, 12:05 PM

12. K&R for visibility. nt

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Response to madamesilverspurs (Original post)

Sun Jun 28, 2015, 01:27 PM

14. You need well-hinted fonts for every language you are using.

There are plenty available on the internet, but be careful. Lot's of sketchy sites out there whenever you are looking for free stuff...

Where to start with Microsoft:

http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/Typography/aboutfontsoverview.aspx

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Sun Jun 28, 2015, 01:34 PM

17. ...



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Response to madamesilverspurs (Original post)

Sun Jun 28, 2015, 01:36 PM

18. Willkommen, etc

It was either this, or Blazing Saddles ...



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Response to madamesilverspurs (Original post)

Sun Jun 28, 2015, 01:42 PM

21. MADem speaks dildo-dotic buttplug :D

 

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026914423#post119

Sorry, that whole thread is too funny to not mention it!

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Response to Aerows (Reply #21)

Sun Jun 28, 2015, 04:06 PM

26. It takes me forever to translate to get to the bottom of his PMs!

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Response to Aerows (Reply #21)

Sun Jun 28, 2015, 04:55 PM

27. That's hilarious!

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Response to madamesilverspurs (Original post)

Sun Jun 28, 2015, 06:17 PM

29. There is only one shade of Black...everything else is grey

 

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Response to madamesilverspurs (Original post)

Sun Jun 28, 2015, 06:45 PM

30. In Japanese, there are basically 3 ways to say "Welcome"

"よこそ" (Yokoso) which usually means "Welcome (to a place)"

There is also 歓迎 (Kangei), which is "Welcome" in most other cases.

"You're welcome" is どういたしまして (Dou itashi mashite)

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