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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 07:08 PM Jun 2015

How the reaction to the gay marriage ruling could hurt the GOP’s 2016 nominee

By Paul Waldman June 30 at 12:15 PM

When you suffer a policy defeat, you have a few choices for what to do next. You can move on, giving your attention to other issues. You can look for ways to make progress on the issue, this particular setback notwithstanding. Or you can simply refuse to abide by the new state of affairs, whether it’s a law passed by Congress or a ruling by the Supreme Court. With the two major rulings the court made last week, Republicans faced this choice, and more than a few of them are choosing refusal. So far it may be just rhetorical, but it could open up yet another rift within the Republican Party as it tries to pick a presidential nominee and then unite under a banner that can win the support of a majority of the electorate.

There is a clear divide among Republicans in how they’ve reacted to the court’s decision in Obergefell v. Hodges, and it roughly correlates to how much concern each individual has about winning that national majority. Jeb Bush said the focus now should be on protecting religious liberty, presumably that of our nation’s oppressed bakers and florists. Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) agreed, saying “we live in a republic and must abide by the law.” But in other quarters, there were hints of the kind of resistance we saw after the Supreme Court struck down segregated schools six decades ago.

Or at least there were people advocating that kind of resistance, if the resistance itself hasn’t yet emerged on any significant scale. Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton announced that if county clerks in his state have religious objections, they should refuse to give marriage licenses to same-sex couples. If someone decides to sue them, “numerous lawyers stand ready to assist clerks defending their religious beliefs, in many cases on a pro-bono basis, and I will do everything I can from this office to be a public voice for those standing in defense of their rights.” Mike Huckabee predicted there would be a campaign of civil disobedience from Christians and reiterated his bizarre legal theory that Supreme Court rulings have no effect until Congress passes a law authorizing them. Some, like Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker, are advocating a constitutional amendment reversing the decision. Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Tex.) argued that states that were not party to the suit are not bound by it, so they don’t have to obey the ruling until a court specifically orders them to. Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) wrote an op-ed stating his belief that if gay people are allowed to get married, then government at all levels should simply stop issuing marriage licenses altogether.

You can say all this is just bluster, and you wouldn’t be wrong. Other than the odd county clerk who can give a couple trying to get their license a very inconvenient day or two, there isn’t much anyone who objects to the court’s ruling can do. But the louder they are about it, the more they reinforce the idea that the Republican Party is the party that not only hates gay people, but is also stuck in the past and refuses to grant the legitimacy of any institution it doesn’t agree with. And candidates like Bush and Rubio will no doubt be attacked for being insufficiently militant on this issue.

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How the reaction to the gay marriage ruling could hurt the GOP’s 2016 nominee (Original Post) DonViejo Jun 2015 OP
Good...knr joeybee12 Jun 2015 #1
I believe this sentence is really the crux of the problem for the Republicans: CaliforniaPeggy Jun 2015 #2
Yep. And it's why our side could nominate a ham sandwich and win the White House.. Volaris Jun 2015 #3
Oh, I agree! CaliforniaPeggy Jun 2015 #4
Lol I'd spend all my salary on bail money for assaults. Volaris Jun 2015 #5

CaliforniaPeggy

(149,611 posts)
2. I believe this sentence is really the crux of the problem for the Republicans:
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 07:30 PM
Jun 2015
But the louder they are about it, the more they reinforce the idea that the Republican Party is the party that not only hates gay people, but is also stuck in the past and refuses to grant the legitimacy of any institution it doesn’t agree with.

Volaris

(10,270 posts)
3. Yep. And it's why our side could nominate a ham sandwich and win the White House..
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 07:40 PM
Jun 2015

So let's nominate NOT a ham sandwich. Let's Nominate Bernie Sanders and not waste this opportunity the Clown Car offers up to us.

Volaris

(10,270 posts)
5. Lol I'd spend all my salary on bail money for assaults.
Tue Jun 30, 2015, 08:12 PM
Jun 2015

When we were kids we didn't have a lot of cash. Dad was a functional manic depressive, and one of his bouts of Genius was to take a 1 inch Dowell rod, lathe one end to a blunt point, and stick the thing in a rubber bmx bicycle grip....instant 'sword'/ thing-to-smack-your-siblings-with.
THAT'S my idea of a hitty-stick hahaha

There are days when I really do miss the man...=)=(

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