Rick Perry: let us take our guns to the movies

[shenmue]

Because what could go wrong?

CNN story and video at link

[tblue]

1. So make a theater that lets you bring a gun

where all the gunners can bring their binky. And put a big sign out front that says "Guns welcome." Maybe even REQUIRE patrons to carry a gun. Sure, go ahead.

They can have that, if they need it so badly. Go head on and do it.

[Live and Learn]

6. They could just hand out guns along with the 3D glasses.

Add a bit of excitement to horror films.

Of and,

[Helen Borg]

35. Yeh, it's not going to be pretty...

When two hundred people start shooting at teach other in the dark, trying to "defend" themselves...

[Kang Colby]

2. Yup.

A broken clock is right twice a day. I no longer support the absurd notion of "gun free zones".

[Fred Sanders]

4. The TV Talking Head of the Free Press interrupted Perry with something like "Stop with the absurd NRA BS", am I right?

"Absurd" is a good word, folks should use it more often.

[LiberalLovinLug]

50. Great!

So now a mentally ill firecracker can bring his gun in without even having to try and hide it. As there are also no federal guidelines for background checks for gun ownership. So much easier.

Especially as most of these nuts don't really care if they get killed. They usually shoot themselves. So they wouldn't be concerned with anyone else having one. They'd just try and take out as many people as they could.

As a Canadian, living in a country with sane gun control laws, I cannot fathom going to see a movie knowing a large percent of the audience is packing heat. Some not as stable as others. And it being perfectly legal? In - fucking - sane.

[Contrary1]

3. I suggest that everyone participating in the upcoming Repub debates

should all be packing heat; candidates and audience alike.

Since guns seem to be their answer to everything, last one standing will be the nominee. Any member of the audience still breathing after the smoke clears gets to vote for him/her/it.

[Kang Colby]

7. In some places they do.

In the "Republican stronghold" of Vermont everyone can carry without a license. I didn't notice much smoke in the air last time I was in Vermont.

Perry is right about this matter, but wrong about so many others.

[Contrary1]

9. I doubt that those participating in the Republican debate

would want everyone in the audience to be armed. But hey, why not?

Every time one of the idiots said something offensive or stupid, those who disagreed could just pull out the weapons.

[Kang Colby]

14. Why not?

Dianne Feinstein had a concealed carry permit.

I fail to understand why we would ever allow the expansion of civil rights to become a Republican issue.

[ibegurpard]

5. And how many would have ended up dead

Because of indiscriminate crossfire? Not to mention it conflicts with the right of a privately owned business to determine what they will allow on their property. I support people's right to own firearms. But people's rights also end where other people's rights begin.

[Kang Colby]

11. Sure.

There are over ten million people with concealed carry permits in the United States, not including those who carry in states like Vermont and Maine where a permit is not required.

Yet, we never hear about this "indiscriminate crossfire" by lawful concealed carriers.

[demtenjeep]

27. My husband and I both have our CCW. He carries a lot. I hardly do

I still feel unsafe that there are loonies that think they will prevent all the bad things in the world because they are "good guys with guns"


We have no such delusions. We only seek to protect ourselves period

[In_The_Wind]

8. The best place to watch a movie is at home.

I can snack on anything. Even rewind to the good parts.

[Aristus]

18. And I can watch in my underwear.

Or put my feet up, which is a really anti-social thing to do during a movie in a theater.

[Orrex]

10. I make my guns read the book instead.

[MoonRiver]

12. Going to be a whole lot more netflix subscribers

if that idea gets traction.

[ProfessorPlum]

20. We get it, you think that gun free zones are the problem. noted.

[beevul]

22. I'm pretty sure that posters point was that they do not work. N/T

[ProfessorPlum]

48. Ya think?

[DFW]

15. Maybe Netflix gave him $100 million to say this? n/t

[Paladin]

16. Perry isn't advising anything I haven't seen here on DU, dozens of times.

Doing away with gun-free zones, enforcing the laws that are on the books, yadda, yadda, yadda. If it's an action that's going to increase the number of guns into as many hands as possible, with as little oversight as possible, the Republicans will be for it---as will our resident cadre of DU gun enthusiasts. They view their perceived rights as more important than the resultant violence and deaths inflicted on the public, they have no interest in discussions or compromise. And thus it shall be, for as far into the future as you care to speculate. One of these days it will be different, but I won't live to see it.

[gwheezie]

17. Does anyone know that no one was armed?

Those that support taking your gun to the movies, how do you know no one was armed? If you support that and carry your gun to the movies, tell me the reason you would open fire in a dark theatre while people are running all around you? Would you do that? Do you think you could have prevented the 2 deaths? It sounds like he stood up and shot the 2 people in front of him. How would you have stopped that if you were armed? Would you have been able to identify the shooter as he tried to blend in while making his escape with enough certainty that you'd take that shot? Let's face it people did not die in that theatre because no one else was armed because you have no idea who was armed in that theatre.

[Aristus]

19. Careful; pro-gun noob Kang Colby up there is going to claim that no one

in history was ever killed accidentally while someone was trying to take out a gun-crazed mass-murderer. Never in all of recorded history. I have proof - I can just imagine him posting...

[gwheezie]

21. Some people have a rescue fantasy

I have been a gun owner, my friends and neighbors are gun owners, I doubt any responsible gun owner would take that shot. Anyone who claims they would is delusional.

[Aristus]

33. Well the very idea the guns everywhere make us safer is delusional,

so it's a pretty short leap...

[demtenjeep]

28. this 1000000%

exactly the questions I ask if someone brings that angle

[Jim Beard]

29. You have to always have your finger on the trigger

for the self defense to work all the time. Its just better to have more cops and less guns. I don't want to sleep with my gun for security.

I have done it before and it doesn't work. You have to sleep sometime.

[Crunchy Frog]

32. I was told, by someone following the story closely, that there was one

man in the theater with a concealed carry gun, but that he didn't try to use it because it was dark in the theater and he couldn't tell exactly where the shooter was, and he knew that when the cops arrived, if they saw him with his gun out, they could easily assume that he was "the bad guy with the gun" and take him out. So he very sensibly did not try to use his gun to stop the shooter.

The guy who told me this is extremely pro-gun, and buys into that whole notion of concealed carry people stopping shooters. I could tell that he was really puzzling over this whole business, and it seemed to have him questioning some of his own core beliefs. I believe he got the info off of CNN's coverage.

Can you imagine if there had been a dozen people with concealed carry weapons in there, and they did not have the sense that this one guy had? Can you imagine the situation of gunfire coming from every corner of the theater, with dozens of people getting caught in the crossfire, and the absolute chaos once the police arrived? It would have been a slaughterhouse.

[WhaTHellsgoingonhere]

23. Rick Perry must have some sort of ties to Netflix

because no one will go to the theaters aside from a bunch of cowboys who will kill each other.

[malaise]

24. Saw it live

Could not believe my ears - should we give the kids guns as well.

[steve2470]

25. The day I feel compelled to carry heat into the movies....

is the day I stop going to the movies in public. Period. This is completely asinine.

I"ll watch movies two months later, safe at home, on Netflix, before I'll do that. F*** that.

[MurrayDelph]

26. I just hope the people who feel the need to come to the theatre packing

don't go to a place with fresh-made popcorn.

[oberliner]

30. Somehow I think this would lead to more people getting shot at the movies, not less

Does that not seem self-evident to people, even on the right?

[edbermac]

31. Rick borrowing a page from Archie Bunker.

What a dingbat.

[betterdemsonly]

34. he is every bit the demogogue that donald trump is.

he just goes after women instead of hispanics, and he terrorizes everyone with guns.

[hobbit709]

36. Hey Rick! A box of rocks called and said it was smarter than you.

[odd_duck]

37. Got to love the .....

'blame the victims' meme.

Seriously, people have a right to be in a public place in safety.

I never heard this argument when a bank was robbed. "If only the bank Tellers had guns......."

[LevelB]

38. #glassesfail

[jtuck004]

39. Anyone want to invest in a movie where we hand out guns at the entrance?

I think this problem can solve itself.

[Moral Compass]

40. He just won the stupid contest

My former governor, Rick Perry, just won the stupid contest between the candidates.

I've given up expecting there to be any impetus for change (we are the only developed country where mass murder is routine)--so I was not surprised when Bobby Jindhal declared that now is not the time to talk about solutions to this mass murder problem we have in our country. I'm resigned to the fact that there is no good time to discuss gun control in our country.

But I thought that maybe, just maybe--no one would try and contend that this would have all been avoided if the other movie patrons had been able to return fire.

I won't go into how quickly these incidents happen and how, especially in this case, there was no time to return fire. Or how it is really, really dark in a movie theater and how that might make it really, really hard to figure out the appropriate person to shoot. Or how many, many more might have died if everyone was armed and started shooting.

But, hell, this thinking thing is just hard and takes up too much time when you can be shooting off your mouth.

So, Rickie wins the contest. He's dumber than all the rest. Yay, Rickie P.!

[Beartracks]

41. Where's the evidence that "good guys with guns" stop/deter crimes?

Where's the evidence that backs up Perry's claim -- or the many claims of Republicans in general -- that so-called "good guys with guns" are able to a) stop "bad buys with guns" during shootings, or b) DETER "bad guys with guns" from committing acts of violence?

This isn't necessarily a facetious question. Where's the evidence?

There is plenty of evidence to the contrary, I think.

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[Electric Monk]

42. faith based, and biased sample. nt

[Beartracks]

44. I really think THEY think, "Well, it works in the movies." n/t

[craigmatic]

43. The fact that there are now shootings in red states and no "good guys with guns" come to save the

day shows that all this conceal and carry stuff is bullshit.

[Beartracks]

46. That "good guys with guns" notion is apparently based on...

... fantasy -- that is, the fantasy that a lot of gun owners have that they will be some kind of Rambo hero: save the day, get the girl, all that jazz. Isn't that kind of a lives-in-your-mom's-basement kind of wish-fulfillment?

Regardless, it's a stoopid thing to base national policy on.

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[Jeneral2885]

45. I would prefer

strip searching.

Joking.

[Beartracks]

47. So, Mr. Perry, do you really think families want to take their kids...

... to theaters that actually WELCOME guns in the dark?



Hmm... Those glasses are only there to make you LOOK smarter, aren't they...

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[-none]

49. Most people can see right through Rick's glasses.

[Gothmog]

51. Goodhair is an idiot