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(113,152 posts)
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 01:38 PM Aug 2015

RNC email accounts protected Bush WH. No Republican lawmaker showed any level of *concern*

House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform
The House Oversight committee in an interim staff report/ June 18, 2007:

At least eighty-eight Republican National Committee email accounts were granted to senior Bush administration officials, not "just a handful" as previously reported by the White House spokesperson Dana Perino in March 2007. Her estimate was later revised to "about fifty."

Officials with accounts included: Karl Rove, the President’s senior advisor; Andrew Card, the former White House Chief of Staff; Ken Mehlman, the former White House Director of Political Affairs; and many other officials in the Office of Political Affairs, the Office of Communications, and the Office of the Vice President.

The RNC has 140,216 emails sent or received by Karl Rove. Over half of these emails (75,374) were sent to or received from individuals using official ".gov" email accounts. Other users of RNC email accounts include former Director of Political Affairs Sara Taylor (66,018 emails) and Deputy Director of Political Affairs Scott Jennings (35,198 emails). These email accounts were used by White House officials for official purposes, such as communicating with federal agencies about federal appointments and policies.

Of the 88 White House officials who received RNC email accounts, the RNC has preserved no emails for 51 officials.

There is evidence that the Office of White House Counsel under Alberto Gonzales may have known that White House officials were using RNC email accounts for official business, but took no action to preserve these presidential records.

The evidence obtained by the Committee indicates that White House officials used their RNC email accounts in a manner that circumvented these requirements. At this point in the investigation, it is not possible to determine precisely how many presidential records may have been destroyed by the RNC. Given the heavy reliance by White House officials on RNC email accounts, the high rank of the White House officials involved, and the large quantity of missing emails, the potential violation of the Presidential Records Act may be extensive.

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(38,532 posts)
1. Yeah but Hillary is bad!!
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 01:44 PM
Aug 2015

Media doesn't even bother with this story, Hillary is just---pure evil!!

And some DUers also.


(23,664 posts)
2. Bush isn't running for anything
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 01:47 PM
Aug 2015

And if his dumbass brother ever gets his campaign off dead center, I guarantee you those emails will be brought up.


(44,280 posts)
4. Jeb has an email problem of his own, nothing to do with GWB
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 02:33 PM
Aug 2015

As governor, Jeb Bush used e-mail to discuss security, troop deployments

Jeb Bush used his private e-mail account as Florida governor to discuss security and military issues such as troop deployments to the Middle East and the protection of nuclear plants, according to a review of publicly released records.

The e-mails include two series of exchanges involving details of Florida National Guard troop deployments after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, the review by The Washington Post found.

Aides to Bush said Saturday that none of the e-mails contained sensitive or classified information, and that many of the events mentioned in them were documented in press accounts, either contemporaneously or later. But security experts say private e-mail systems such as the one used by Bush are more vulnerable to hackers, and that details such as troop movements could be exploited by enemies.


As governor, Bush used his account, jeb@jeb.org, to conduct official, political and personal business, including plans to woo new businesses to the state, judicial appointments and military matters, the e-mail records show. His e-mail server was housed at the governor’s office in Tallahassee during his two terms; he took it with him when he left office in 2007.

He later turned over about 280,000 e-mails for state archives under the requirements of Florida records laws, or about half of the total e-mails on the server.

<more at link>

Not getting too much attention from Fox or the Republican Talking Heads.


(23,664 posts)
5. Apparently it was alerted to by Washington Post
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 02:39 PM
Aug 2015

So it ain't like there's a vast left wing conpiracy afoot here.

I'm sure Trump will see to that.


(44,280 posts)
6. Lol, you are correct. Trump will be all over it.
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 02:48 PM
Aug 2015

I read an article on DU today where he correctly blamed Bushco for the '08 financial meltdown.


(24,002 posts)
3. unfortunately i don't see this helping Hillary
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 02:28 PM
Aug 2015

Republicans and Americans generally seem to have a very high tolerance for hypocrisy. such information doesn't really register, people tune it out automatically and toss it in the "all politicians are crooks" basket which actually ends up helping the GOP establishment.

the problem Hillary will face here is the RNC campaign ads painting her as a dark, sinister, uncaring figure which may cite things like Benghazi and the private email server. her best defense so far has been to do nothing, to ignore that shit because people at large just don't care very much as long as she doesn't seem to care very much. i don't think the apathy that protects her will last very far into the general election campaign, and then she'll have to present a more active defense against these various charges, spurious or not.

oh and that defense has to fit into memorable 30s campaign ads. but i'm sure she's hired professionals who can handle that kind of thing, right?


(269,459 posts)
7. Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 03:08 PM
Aug 2015

There are different rules for ReTHUGs - ask M$Greedia and the 'establishment'.


(113,152 posts)
9. Has ONE 'reporter' asked GOP pols to explain their outrage now versus their silence then?
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 04:24 PM
Aug 2015

No REAL reporters need apply to today's corpmedia.


(7,413 posts)
10. That argument is a two-way street
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 04:35 PM
Aug 2015

If one thought the RNC email scandal warranted investigation they should feel the same about Hillary and vice-versa, that would be the only way to not be a hypocrite.


(113,152 posts)
11. You're mistaken - this isn't about NOT investigating the emails at all - it's about
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 04:43 PM
Aug 2015

the FACT that Republicans are ONLY 'concerned' about these emails when far worse transgressions with email were committed as a matter of COURSE by Bush WH.

You are welcome to travel on the street you wish to travel.


(7,413 posts)
12. All politicians are hypocrites
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 04:55 PM
Aug 2015

They typically protect their own then turn around and hammer the other party on the same topic.

I think every government agency and Congress should have it's own IG appointed by the minority party, regardless of who it is.

Checks and balances, I supported investigating the RNC emails and I support the FBI investigating Hillary whatever they happen to find. If they find nothing then great, if they find criminal activity by her staff or her I hope the DOJ prosecutes.


(113,152 posts)
14. Again - you are mistaken. Convenient to have your position when knowing
Wed Aug 19, 2015, 05:10 PM
Aug 2015

that there will NEVER be parity in any investigations when the corporate media serves the interests of ONE group of powerful elites over the interests of the majority in this country.

One can EASILY explain that Whitewater's 60million/7yrs plus 'investigation' was treated no differently than 9/11's 15million/2yrs 'investigation', can't one?

Perhaps that reality managed to escape your notice?

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