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diabeticman

(3,121 posts)
Sun Sep 13, 2015, 09:45 AM Sep 2015

Should a Nobel laureate be required to take the SATs?

http://news.yahoo.com/nobel-laureate-required-sats-194834463.html


Even the world’s youngest Nobel laureate needs to ace her SATs if she wants to get into Stanford.


Malala Yousafzai, the Pakistani teen who won the Nobel Peace Prize after standing up for girls’ education against the Taliban, is preparing to go to college. She has named Stanford one of her top choices, but the university will require her to submit her SAT scores, CBS News reported, before she can compete with more than 40,000 other applicants for the 2,000 or so first-year spots.

The requirement has once more highlighted the paramount role of standardized testing in the US educational system – though some universities no longer require score submissions from college applicants, as The Christian Science Monitor's Beatrice Gitau reported in July.

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Maybe it is wrong to think this but perhaps --when it comes to Malala-- Any college or University should be honored to have her as a student.
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Should a Nobel laureate be required to take the SATs? (Original Post) diabeticman Sep 2015 OP
If it is part of the entrance requirements, Yes TexasProgresive Sep 2015 #1
True. diabeticman Sep 2015 #2
Yes, and I would bet that Malala would want to. CTyankee Sep 2015 #9
There are plenty of schools that don't require the SAT 6chars Sep 2015 #3
I never took the SAT PowerToThePeople Sep 2015 #4
Highly likely they would accept her even if scores not great HERVEPA Sep 2015 #5
TYPO ALERT: Your subject line says the opposite of what you mean. nt tblue37 Sep 2015 #10
Whoops. Thanks! Fixed. HERVEPA Sep 2015 #13
I often have to deal with typos when I return to an earlier post to read replies, but they are never tblue37 Sep 2015 #16
You hit it exactly! HERVEPA Sep 2015 #17
She should check out CAL, Nobel Laureates get assigned prime parking spaces. Plus I know at least mulsh Sep 2015 #6
If she had gotten the Nobel Prize for LuvNewcastle Sep 2015 #7
Everyone should or nobody should. RedCappedBandit Sep 2015 #8
College admissions are a big bag of worms. hunter Sep 2015 #11
Winning the Nobel Peace Prize is not a predictor of how well former9thward Sep 2015 #12
Cold as ice HERVEPA Sep 2015 #14
Facts normally are. former9thward Sep 2015 #15
She'll cruise them anyway muriel_volestrangler Sep 2015 #18

TexasProgresive

(12,164 posts)
1. If it is part of the entrance requirements, Yes
Sun Sep 13, 2015, 09:59 AM
Sep 2015

If for no other reason then to silence those who would say she got their slot because of her notoriety.

6chars

(3,967 posts)
3. There are plenty of schools that don't require the SAT
Sun Sep 13, 2015, 10:04 AM
Sep 2015

but she will probably do pretty well on them anyway.

 

PowerToThePeople

(9,610 posts)
4. I never took the SAT
Sun Sep 13, 2015, 10:09 AM
Sep 2015

It was too expensive. I did community college first then transferred to University, so SATs were not needed in my case.

 

HERVEPA

(6,107 posts)
5. Highly likely they would accept her even if scores not great
Sun Sep 13, 2015, 10:13 AM
Sep 2015

Last edited Sun Sep 13, 2015, 08:50 PM - Edit history (1)

Universities take other things into consideration, and almost definitely would for her.

tblue37

(65,524 posts)
16. I often have to deal with typos when I return to an earlier post to read replies, but they are never
Sun Sep 13, 2015, 10:03 PM
Sep 2015

as bizarre as the things I end up posting because of the hyperactive autocorrect function. I find a lot of those in other people's posts, too, so I want to believe that when people read a screwy post like that from me, they will immediately assume that the autocorrect function is at fault.

Your typo was of a different sort than my typos or my autocorrect screw-ups. I bet you started the sentence with a wordy phrase weighed down by correctly paired but unwieldy negatives ("highly unlikely that they would not accept her&quot but then chose to go with the more streamlined positive phrasing ("highly likely that they would accept her&quot . When posting online, we often revise our posts on the fly, and sometimes bits of the earlier versions reveal themselves like clues at an archaeological dig. I bet that's what happened in this case.

And since most of us are busy but still want to grab a bit of time to join these discussions, we are often posting on the fly. (That is certainly why I so often fail to notice my typos until I return to read a reply to my post.)

mulsh

(2,959 posts)
6. She should check out CAL, Nobel Laureates get assigned prime parking spaces. Plus I know at least
Sun Sep 13, 2015, 12:51 PM
Sep 2015

two CAL grads who never completed high school so I suspect SATs are not that important to them.

LuvNewcastle

(16,864 posts)
7. If she had gotten the Nobel Prize for
Sun Sep 13, 2015, 04:03 PM
Sep 2015

an academic discipline, like physics, I could see them letting her in without an entrance exam, but we're talking about Stanford. There are plenty of other very good schools who would be happy to get a Nobel Peace Prize winner, and probably would give her a full scholarship.

RedCappedBandit

(5,514 posts)
8. Everyone should or nobody should.
Sun Sep 13, 2015, 04:10 PM
Sep 2015

If she has a problem with those standardized tests (if she does, I'm in agreement with her) she should choose to patronize schools who don't use them.

hunter

(38,340 posts)
11. College admissions are a big bag of worms.
Sun Sep 13, 2015, 05:07 PM
Sep 2015

Tests like the SAT are not a measure of intelligence, creativity or critical thinking skills. They are a measure of how well you take tests.

In my utopia, education is free for everyone, at any time of life. This competition for an artificially limited resource, a "college education," a competition that is tilted in favor of young people with wealthy parents, isn't making this world or this nation a better place.

The environmental impacts of students and teachers living on or near a school campus are minimal compared to the other things that occupy our attention, especially fossil fueled industry.

We need to abandon our high energy fossil fueled economic system. We are destroying ourselves and the environment that supports us.

Perhaps if everyone was at the very least literate and numerate, and many more of us had much greater levels of education and technical knowledge, then maybe we could figure a path out of this mess we've made for ourselves.

former9thward

(32,121 posts)
12. Winning the Nobel Peace Prize is not a predictor of how well
Sun Sep 13, 2015, 05:13 PM
Sep 2015

you will do in a particular school. Especially since the Peace Prize is usually a political statement. That is why the SAT is and should be required.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,405 posts)
18. She'll cruise them anyway
Mon Sep 14, 2015, 04:28 AM
Sep 2015

Her speeches show how bright, articulate and unfazed by pressure she is; and her GCSE results are what you'd expect of someone looking to enter Oxford or Cambridge, without her other achievements (and she said "Oxford, maybe Stanford" a few days ago talking to the Telluride Film Festival).

The only disappointing thing is she's considering studying politics and economics, when she has the grades in sciences to study them. An Oxford degree in PPE is what David Cameron got.

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