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global1

(25,253 posts)
Fri Sep 18, 2015, 02:08 PM Sep 2015

What Distrubed Me More Than Trump's Lack Of Response To The Guy That Asked The Muslim Question.....

was the tone of the voice of the man that asked the question. It was filled with hatred and fostered violence.

Watching the video - the cameras were only on Trump and not on any of the questioners. I'm wondering if any of the photographers in the room took a picture of this guy or if anyone identified this guy that asked the question?

Trump is probably looking for him today to pay him off and have the guy say that he was a plant in the room to embarrass Trump. Maybe that's why Trump cancelled his appearance today.

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What Distrubed Me More Than Trump's Lack Of Response To The Guy That Asked The Muslim Question..... (Original Post) global1 Sep 2015 OP
Strange how such a vocal, passionate "attendee" seems so hard to find or identify?? Fred Sanders Sep 2015 #1
all the networks were there, cable & broadcast....you KNOW they have him on camera spanone Sep 2015 #4
Where did he go? Why the sudden inability of all of the mass media to find one guy...to "clarify"? Fred Sanders Sep 2015 #5
It's been less than 24 hours jberryhill Sep 2015 #13
No offence intended! Why taken? Fred Sanders Sep 2015 #16
A 'plant' to make Trump and his supporters look bad? jberryhill Sep 2015 #26
"It's like hiding rosaries around the Vatican to make the Pope look Catholic." pinboy3niner Sep 2015 #35
I mean, really jberryhill Sep 2015 #38
I am asking you to simply back up what you said jberryhill Sep 2015 #41
"...the one guy in America who does not like Muslims...". Are we on the same planet?! Fred Sanders Sep 2015 #44
So I should take your response to mean... jberryhill Sep 2015 #45
The video I saw showed the questioner from the side Cali_Democrat Sep 2015 #2
Yes, that camera panned from Trump to the questioner... pinboy3niner Sep 2015 #3
This is the fourth thread today I've seen... jberryhill Sep 2015 #6
More of a cut to the racist questioner than a pan....Where's Waldo now? Fred Sanders Sep 2015 #8
You're correct. A cut, not a pan. nt pinboy3niner Sep 2015 #20
Yes, I saw your reply with vid in an earlier thread pinboy3niner Sep 2015 #11
I was watching Matthews' show on MSNBC Skidmore Sep 2015 #12
OH SHIT NO. Also, he looks like he's had quite the face lift. bettyellen Sep 2015 #30
The man is clearly identified....and in the video tapes of all the major and minor networks Fred Sanders Sep 2015 #9
CNN was all over Trump's birtherism pinboy3niner Sep 2015 #15
Did they now? Interesting....and how did any of them attempt to defend the birtherism/racism? Fred Sanders Sep 2015 #17
CNN didn't defend Trump at all, but one of their guests was a Trump supporter pinboy3niner Sep 2015 #21
What fucking "excuses", excuse my language....if anyone else did not call the Trump asshole an Fred Sanders Sep 2015 #23
If you expect a CNN anchor to call Trump an "asshole" on air, don't hold your breath pinboy3niner Sep 2015 #24
Had a weird thought today. Remember Bill Clinton and Fuckhead had that meeting right before randys1 Sep 2015 #32
remember when Trump said his supporters were "passionate"? napkinz Sep 2015 #7
"Passionate" is the new definition of "racist" for the mass media to try out in the public. Fred Sanders Sep 2015 #10
Probably an Alex Jones or Glenn Beck fan. moondust Sep 2015 #14
Also apparently have little problem with pushing these wing hut conspiracies is Trump himself! Fred Sanders Sep 2015 #18
Do you mean the wing nut conspiracy theory about this guy being a plant? jberryhill Sep 2015 #40
That's a great point. cwydro Sep 2015 #19
Yes, who does not remember that moment and McCain's response. Where is Waldo and who planted Fred Sanders Sep 2015 #22
I know. I really thought that too. cwydro Sep 2015 #25
the questioner did seem kind of fake but Trump's response was simply disgusting Fast Walker 52 Sep 2015 #27
I think he was floored. cwydro Sep 2015 #31
This speech is much more compelling jberryhill Sep 2015 #28
She's an idiot. cwydro Sep 2015 #33
"he handled that well" jberryhill Sep 2015 #36
Don't forget how Obama tried to nuke South Carolina... Cali_Democrat Sep 2015 #42
Ah another classic jberryhill Sep 2015 #43
his tone sounded scripted, like a bad actor virtualobserver Sep 2015 #29
And I remember my reaction to what McCain said "What is so wrong if he is a Muslim?" randys1 Sep 2015 #34
"No, he's a nice, family man" jberryhill Sep 2015 #37
hey, trump, you made them restorefreedom Sep 2015 #39
I think he was some kind of plant from another campaign. Probably another republican, but sadly Tipperary Sep 2015 #46
Racist buffoon candidate attracts racist buffoon supporters. Bluenorthwest Sep 2015 #47

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
1. Strange how such a vocal, passionate "attendee" seems so hard to find or identify??
Fri Sep 18, 2015, 02:10 PM
Sep 2015

Strange how in all the crowd this one fellow was picked on to ask a question in the same hateful ignorant way candidate John McCain was asked by a woman in 2007 about "Obama is a Muslim"....and many in the extreme right wing blame The One Who Picked Palin's calm and correct response including "He is a good man", to have lost Mr. McGrump the election.....Trump did it right for these folks.

The gloves are off, the fangs have been bares and to me it is all a precursor to the GOP's inevitable collapse, no matter how desperately the corporate media tries to prop them up.

Bullshit Mountain is about to collapse under the weight of it's own daily heaps of excrement.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
5. Where did he go? Why the sudden inability of all of the mass media to find one guy...to "clarify"?
Fri Sep 18, 2015, 02:16 PM
Sep 2015

The racist hate monger* seems to have no problem speaking his mind with national cameras trained on him!

*meaning the one who asked the genocidal question.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
13. It's been less than 24 hours
Fri Sep 18, 2015, 02:35 PM
Sep 2015

It was a while before anyone caught up with crazy McCain lady or crazy Mike Castle lady too.

You couch this as an "inability" for no discernible reason.

It was *WEEKS* between "important lion killed in Africa" to "American dentist". Remember when it was initially someone from Spain?

And that's even assuming there is a news producer somewhere who wants to spend money on "hey, let's get an interview with an ignorant dumbfuck". So, you clearly have information to the effect that anyone has bothered to track him down, and have been "unable" to do so. How about you share this information with us?
 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
26. A 'plant' to make Trump and his supporters look bad?
Fri Sep 18, 2015, 04:37 PM
Sep 2015

"Look" bad?



Trump says this shit himself. Why on earth would any "plant" someone to say exactly the shit he and his supporters say on their own, with regularity and dependability?

It's like hiding rosaries around the Vatican to make the Pope look Catholic.
 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
38. I mean, really
Fri Sep 18, 2015, 05:04 PM
Sep 2015

It seems to be unimaginable to some that people believe this shit and are able to shout it into a microphone.

It reminds me of the "lone nut anti-defamation defense league" which comes out to defend every lone nut who does something crazy because, well, a lone nut couldn't possibly have done something nutty on their own. It HAD to be a conspiracy.
 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
41. I am asking you to simply back up what you said
Sat Sep 19, 2015, 11:30 AM
Sep 2015

You referred to an "inability" to track down this guy's identity (and, I'll bet it's known in a few days - just like Joe the Plumber).

I would like to know what is your factual premise for saying the media is "unable" to identify him.

That no one has identified him yet is not evidence of "inability". Perhaps no one in particular really gives a shit about chasing down the one guy in America who doesn't like Muslims and thinks Obama is a foreign born one.

So, why did you use this word?

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
44. "...the one guy in America who does not like Muslims...". Are we on the same planet?!
Sat Sep 19, 2015, 11:54 AM
Sep 2015

And no one ever seriously claimed there was no image of the racist bigoted asshole questioner who could easily be mistaken for a plant, Trump shirt and all, but the real issue is the response of Trump....encouraging racism and bigotry and even today, Birtherism.

If folks can not or refuse to see the burgeoning fascism heaped on the backs of Muslims and minorities in America that this all represents, that is their handicap.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
45. So I should take your response to mean...
Sat Sep 19, 2015, 12:03 PM
Sep 2015

...that you were stating something as fact that you cannot back up.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
6. This is the fourth thread today I've seen...
Fri Sep 18, 2015, 02:17 PM
Sep 2015

...in which there is the assertion there is no picture of the guy.

Really weird.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
11. Yes, I saw your reply with vid in an earlier thread
Fri Sep 18, 2015, 02:29 PM
Sep 2015

Maybe some saw a different vid that stayed on Trump. But all the news media have been using the vid showing the questioner. There's no mystery about that.

A second issue is that some want to see the questioner identified and questioned about his remarks, especially in light of the suggestion that the guy was a "plant" to make Trump and his supporters look bad.

Skidmore

(37,364 posts)
12. I was watching Matthews' show on MSNBC
Fri Sep 18, 2015, 02:31 PM
Sep 2015

which was broadcasting it live at the time. The camera stayed on Trump. Matthews took Trump apart over his response afterward. None of the footage I saw yesterday evening or this morning showed the questioner.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
9. The man is clearly identified....and in the video tapes of all the major and minor networks
Fri Sep 18, 2015, 02:21 PM
Sep 2015

that are still inexplicably giving fascism a huge platform.

It really is more scary how the mass media is handling this than the actual clown they are promoting.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
15. CNN was all over Trump's birtherism
Fri Sep 18, 2015, 02:40 PM
Sep 2015

I was pleased to see them run all the old clips of Trump questioning Obama's birth and citizenship.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
21. CNN didn't defend Trump at all, but one of their guests was a Trump supporter
Fri Sep 18, 2015, 03:00 PM
Sep 2015

He made excuses for Trump's failure to correct the questioner, of course.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
23. What fucking "excuses", excuse my language....if anyone else did not call the Trump asshole an
Fri Sep 18, 2015, 03:03 PM
Sep 2015

asshole then they at CNN are all assholes.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
24. If you expect a CNN anchor to call Trump an "asshole" on air, don't hold your breath
Fri Sep 18, 2015, 03:13 PM
Sep 2015

What they DID do was damn him with his own birther statements, replayed. And while they aired the weak protestations of the Trumpista guest, they also aired the condemnations of other guests as well as a clip of Hillary Clinton's excellent response.

Overall, CNN did a good job on this.

randys1

(16,286 posts)
32. Had a weird thought today. Remember Bill Clinton and Fuckhead had that meeting right before
Fri Sep 18, 2015, 04:45 PM
Sep 2015

fuckhead (trump) announced he was running?

They may have made a deal.

Maybe Trump actually knows the country will devolve into total chaos and misery if the Koch bros get their way and has decided to do this and then go 3rd party when the time comes.

Nobody will be surprised if he breaks his promise to the GOP.

He would of course guarantee a dem victory if he ran 3rd party.

It wouldnt be like Perot.

moondust

(19,993 posts)
14. Probably an Alex Jones or Glenn Beck fan.
Fri Sep 18, 2015, 02:36 PM
Sep 2015

Aren't they the ones still pushing the birther bunk, "Muslim training camps," Jade Helm CT, etc.?

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
18. Also apparently have little problem with pushing these wing hut conspiracies is Trump himself!
Fri Sep 18, 2015, 02:51 PM
Sep 2015

A bridge too far to cross, even for CNN, now that they profited so handsomely from their debate ad revenue? Is the quid pro quo complete?

We will see.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
19. That's a great point.
Fri Sep 18, 2015, 02:53 PM
Sep 2015

It occurred to me too.

It was so over the top, I had to wonder if it was a plant by Jeb, et.al.

Still, Trump blew a chance to show leadership.

I remember McCain with that nutso woman during his campaign.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
22. Yes, who does not remember that moment and McCain's response. Where is Waldo and who planted
Fri Sep 18, 2015, 03:01 PM
Sep 2015

him?

Trump's response, which did not seem scripted, was the opposite of McCain's!

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
25. I know. I really thought that too.
Fri Sep 18, 2015, 04:33 PM
Sep 2015

And as the narrative has continued, I think it more.

I mean that idiot "audience member" was so over the top.

Not saying there are not idiots out there like that, but I just don't think this one was genuine.

 

Fast Walker 52

(7,723 posts)
27. the questioner did seem kind of fake but Trump's response was simply disgusting
Fri Sep 18, 2015, 04:39 PM
Sep 2015

he even seemed to egg the guy on to some extent

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
31. I think he was floored.
Fri Sep 18, 2015, 04:43 PM
Sep 2015

And he knew he was cornered.

He handled it horribly.

Not that I care lol.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
28. This speech is much more compelling
Fri Sep 18, 2015, 04:39 PM
Sep 2015


And note the crowd reaction.

That's a county in Delaware, by the way.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
33. She's an idiot.
Fri Sep 18, 2015, 04:46 PM
Sep 2015

But he handled that well.

And hey, why did my birth certificate not come with a little flag???!!

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
36. "he handled that well"
Fri Sep 18, 2015, 04:58 PM
Sep 2015

And lost the primary to Christine O'Donnell.

These people are quite numerous.

randys1

(16,286 posts)
34. And I remember my reaction to what McCain said "What is so wrong if he is a Muslim?"
Fri Sep 18, 2015, 04:47 PM
Sep 2015

But I am a liberal.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
37. "No, he's a nice, family man"
Fri Sep 18, 2015, 05:00 PM
Sep 2015

Therefore, apparently not Muslim.

Yeah, McCain's response was just as craven as the accusation.
 

Tipperary

(6,930 posts)
46. I think he was some kind of plant from another campaign. Probably another republican, but sadly
Sat Sep 19, 2015, 02:42 PM
Sep 2015

it would not surprise me if it came from our side. Politics is a dirty business. Sometimes it might be the campaign staff without the knowledge of the candidate him/herself. But I would bet Christie or Bush. Lee Atwater type crap.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
47. Racist buffoon candidate attracts racist buffoon supporters.
Sat Sep 19, 2015, 02:55 PM
Sep 2015

Why would anyone think that the flame has to plant the moths?

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