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Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
Fri Sep 18, 2015, 02:46 PM Sep 2015

Insane Clown Posse Win Appeal in FBI Gang Lawsuit

Insane Clown Posse Win Appeal in FBI Gang Lawsuit



http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/insane-clown-posse-win-appeal-in-fbi-gang-lawsuit-20150918

Insane Clown Posse scored a major victory in their efforts to remove their "Juggalos" fanbase from the FBI's list of organized gangs as a federal appeals court ordered that a Michigan court hear the case. ICP's lawsuit against the FBI, filed with the assistance of the American Civil Liberties Union of Michigan, was initially dismissed from a district court in January 2014, citing failure to prove "injuries suffered." But the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Sixth Circuit in Cincinnati ultimately overturned that decision Thursday, NBC News reports.

The lawsuit stems from a report filed by the FBI's National Gang Intelligence Center in 2011 that labeled Juggalos as a "loosely organized hybrid gang," a designation that members Violent J and Shaggy 2 Dope claimed unfairly profiled their fanbase. The duo alleged that their fans often lost their jobs, were discharged from the military and even were evicted from their homes because of the FBI's report that associated ICP's clown logo as a gang emblem. Their notoriety as a "organized gang" also resulted in canceled concerts.

“We're thankful that the Juggalo family will finally get their day in court," the duo said in a statement on their official site following Thursday's ruling. "Discrimination against someone based solely upon the type of music they listen to is just flat out wrong and it’s time that the legal system acknowledges that. The FBI's labeling of Juggalos as a gang has wreaked havoc on thousands of lives, resulting in job losses, dismissal from military service, eviction, lost child custody and constant harassment and profiling from law enforcement organizations all across the country."

Insane Clown Posse also proclaimed Thursday's decision as a "major step in our fight to clear our family name." No court date for the lawsuit has been scheduled yet. The duo said in closing, "Thank you for standing strong with us in this battle and MUCH CLOWN LOVE! WHOOP WHOOP."
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Insane Clown Posse Win Appeal in FBI Gang Lawsuit (Original Post) Miles Archer Sep 2015 OP
I wonder what other fan bases on the list? hollysmom Sep 2015 #1
They should start with Ted Nugent. (n/t) Jim Lane Sep 2015 #17
what are they called? Nudges? hollysmom Sep 2015 #18
I don't know. I don't associate with those people. (n/t) Jim Lane Sep 2015 #19
Big Money Rustlas - one of my I don't know why I love it but I do movies. djean111 Sep 2015 #2
Do these Juggalos look like gangsters to you? MineralMan Sep 2015 #3
What's the deal with the guy on the right? progressoid Sep 2015 #7
23rd level juggalos have learned how to levitate. Rex Sep 2015 #13
Faygo sodas for everyone! n/t DefenseLawyer Sep 2015 #4
Nah, Vernors ... it'll cure what ails you etherealtruth Sep 2015 #9
Faygo is a ICP thing DefenseLawyer Sep 2015 #20
Ahhh that's right ... grew up ~10 miles from those 'clowns' etherealtruth Sep 2015 #21
Rainbows, how do they work? longship Sep 2015 #5
Fucking magnets! Rex Sep 2015 #11
Wonder who else has gotten profiled into oblivion? Octafish Sep 2015 #6
I remember seeing juggalo morons in Orange County in the late 90's Sen. Walter Sobchak Sep 2015 #8
I think that is making a rather broad judgement Marrah_G Sep 2015 #12
Well, every time I saw them they were panhandling. Sen. Walter Sobchak Sep 2015 #16
Woop-Woop Heeeeers Johnny Sep 2015 #15
Their fan base is the WWE fan base! How the FBI is so clueless, actually scares me. Rex Sep 2015 #10
I hope they didn't appear in court wearing that foolish clown makeup. Heeeeers Johnny Sep 2015 #14

hollysmom

(5,946 posts)
1. I wonder what other fan bases on the list?
Fri Sep 18, 2015, 02:54 PM
Sep 2015

that is just amazingly stupid?
Manilows? Beliebers? Dead heads (this one is quite possible)

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
11. Fucking magnets!
Fri Sep 18, 2015, 05:39 PM
Sep 2015

There fan base is the WWE...so expecting a large amount of thunk is a wasted effort imo.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
6. Wonder who else has gotten profiled into oblivion?
Fri Sep 18, 2015, 04:06 PM
Sep 2015

Anarchists? Socialists? Liberals?

J Edgar Hoover was wont to drop the dime to ruin someone's job or love life.

Now that we have supercomputers, it's a problem for every single person in the entire country.

 

Sen. Walter Sobchak

(8,692 posts)
8. I remember seeing juggalo morons in Orange County in the late 90's
Fri Sep 18, 2015, 05:31 PM
Sep 2015

I was astonished a few years ago to hear they were still around.

I probably would have described them as vagrants rather than gang members though. They were more swaggering panhandlers than anything else.

Marrah_G

(28,581 posts)
12. I think that is making a rather broad judgement
Fri Sep 18, 2015, 05:40 PM
Sep 2015

It's a sub culture...music, style of dress, etc. It often attracts kids who are picked on, ostracized, bullied by kids you would probably think of as upstanding citizens.

 

Sen. Walter Sobchak

(8,692 posts)
16. Well, every time I saw them they were panhandling.
Fri Sep 18, 2015, 05:51 PM
Sep 2015

Usually outside a convenience or liquor store and making crude comments to passers-by.

If there was a vibrant, artistic and reflective community behind them, they weren't making that obvious.

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