Horror in Oregon

[madamesilverspurs]

We cringe in sorrow once again, weeping with and praying for the families, sending condolences to a shocked and blood-soaked community.

And we do so knowing that Wayne LaPierre is celebrating yet another opportunity to distort the Second Amendment into an excuse to sell more guns and ammo.

We're doing something wrong, or failing to do something right. Either way, this has to stop.

[Laffy Kat]

1. They are reporting 10-12 dead at this point. nt

[floriduck]

2. Very sad, indeed.

I'm watching the Portland local news on it now. Roseberg is south of Eugene, about 50 mins drive. Very pretty area with lots of outdoor activities. But twisted people come in all shapes, sizes and locales.

[Bettie]

3. Already saw a facebook post from my gun nut brother

about how he's stocking up on Ammo before the liburls take his gunz.

[rbrnmw]

5. Seen some of the same from friends on Facebook

Obama is gonna take our guns nonsense.

[Bettie]

6. After Sandy Hook

my brother (same one) informed me that a bunch of dead first graders are just "collateral damage" and "the price we pay for our freedom".

And my mother wonders why I generally don't talk to him.

[rbrnmw]

8. Sick

[Bettie]

9. Yep I am ashamed

to be related to him. For that and so many other things.

[cascadiance]

14. They just interviewed a former vet student who was armed at Umpqua at the time of the shooting...

... on KATU news tonight. John Parker was initially interested in trying to intervene to stop the killer, but was told by campus staff to go back inside since they were on the other side of the campus, and he had the sense to know that by going across the campus to intervene that the SWAT team might not know who were friends or foe, and therefore stayed inside. I wonder if someone like him had less intelligence and more just impulse that he acted on, could have made this whole situation a lot worse and himself been killed by authorities not knowing who he was and perhaps he might have shot the wrong person too when trying to stop the killer too.

He tried to say this was more of a mental health issue than a gun issue and wasn't wanting it to be political, but I still wonder where this state is going to go on gun control.

One reason why we defied the rest of the country this last election in gaining in our state legislature was that Bloomberg threw a ton of money in to a couple of races that helped the Democrats get two more state senators, one of them mine, which I helped elect being one of the 100 or so voter difference in the vote who just moved to this district, primarily on his concern about getting some gun control in place. Later, these senators as well as others were being targets of recall election petitions (that failed) by gun rights lobbyists. We have a lot of storms brewing on this issue I think.

They also reported that 3 pistols and one long rifle were recovered from the scene, so if this was one shooter, he was pretty heavily harmed it would seem, unless someone else with a gun didn't have the sense of Mr. Parker and was also a part of the shooting too.

[Rex]

4. Of course he is, all ghouls in the NRA enjoy the suffering of others.

They must. They go to the town that lost X amount of people due to GUNS and then pretend it is the victims fault. The gun is always at zero fault with the NRA.

You would think adults would place the value of human life above the value of a gun...nope, not GOP/NRA assholes like LePierre.

[Bettie]

7. And people keep posting

"mah gunz never killed no one"...idiots.

[Rex]

10. My reply to them is, 'not yet'.

Yes and the answer is always MORE GUNS! Talk about insanity; wasn't that trying to do the same thing over and over with the same failed results?

[DrBulldog]

11. My nephew lives there in Roseburg, 150 miles south of me.

The gun madness keeps on getting closer to home - for everyone everywhere in the U.S.

[madamesilverspurs]

12. We are inundated with it.

I live just up the road from both Columbine and Aurora.

[Grammy23]

13. I changed the channel expecting to see the usual

Babbling heads talking about Trump, Carson, Kim Davis, etc. the usual suspects. Instead I see breaking news from Oregon about yet another mass shooting. Sadly, this has become so common place that I was not even surprised. Dismayed, but not surprised.

I don't have any words that have not been said over and over. Even the commentators repeat the same platitudes and expressions of horror. But nothing gets done. NOTHING. How much longer will we allow this? Have we just given up? I am just numb to the horror and the outrage I once felt has been beaten down due to the lack of action by the people empowered to make changes. I would get behind anyone with a viable solution, but the people with the authority to change laws and regulations need to step up and do their jobs. That is why we send them to Washington and our state legislatures and they have let us down. I have lost faith in them doing anything thanks to the NRA and their strangle hold over the legislators. And that is why I remain heartbroken and disillusioned about our country.