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TheMastersNemesis

(10,602 posts)
Sun Oct 4, 2015, 10:34 AM Oct 2015

Get Used To It GOP Has Enough Grip On US To Stop Anything From Being Done Permanently.

The GOP has so manipulated voting that lie bed bugs we will never get rid of them or diminish the damage they are doing. Gerrymandering, voter suppression, voter ID, campaign finance corruption, huge money et al guarantees that they will have enough power to keep the country paralyzed on key issues.

Be honest they have gummed up the works so well over the years we may never undo all the damage. Just look at all the progress the have made undermining women's rights, workers rights, the debt, minority rights. They now completely open about their racisim, bigotry and hatred that they see their stance as a winning strategy.

And they have enough dip shit true believers to maintain the status quo. Until the Democrats or saner politicians take over Congress and the White House we are pretty much screwed.

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Get Used To It GOP Has Enough Grip On US To Stop Anything From Being Done Permanently. (Original Post) TheMastersNemesis Oct 2015 OP
Well, better just go eat worms. Hortensis Oct 2015 #1
outside the frame the eagle is tethered and wings clipped librechik Oct 2015 #4
Dig the worm, then crawl in the hole, pull the dirt over. Simple. Hortensis Oct 2015 #5
pretending we have power we do not have does not help the voters. librechik Oct 2015 #6
OH, the idea is to ATTACK and SOLVE problems. I misunderstood. Hortensis Oct 2015 #7
In some areas this is probably true. Seems like they will jwirr Oct 2015 #2
Vote all you want--the policies won't change librechik Oct 2015 #3
And where has the opposition party Euphoria Oct 2015 #8
Stockholm Syndrome starroute Oct 2015 #9

librechik

(30,676 posts)
4. outside the frame the eagle is tethered and wings clipped
Sun Oct 4, 2015, 11:33 AM
Oct 2015

and the elephant is laughing and laughing about how they have fooled the public into thinking they still have "the power of the vote"

librechik

(30,676 posts)
6. pretending we have power we do not have does not help the voters.
Sun Oct 4, 2015, 11:48 AM
Oct 2015

We need to attack the actual problem,(that we no longer have a representational government which responds to voters) not tell ourselves that Exceptional America will save us in the end.

we solved this problem before. But not without actually kicking the king in the ass.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
2. In some areas this is probably true. Seems like they will
Sun Oct 4, 2015, 10:48 AM
Oct 2015

keep the House in 2016 bar a miracle. And until the minority vote can make a difference in many southerns states it is probably true there also.

As to the other elections it will depend on voter turnout as usual.

librechik

(30,676 posts)
3. Vote all you want--the policies won't change
Sun Oct 4, 2015, 11:11 AM
Oct 2015
http://www.bostonglobe.com/ideas/2014/10/18/vote-all-you-want-the-secret-government-won-change/jVSkXrENQlu8vNcBfMn9sL/story.html?event=event25

snip

"Why did the face in the Oval Office change but the policies remain the same? Critics tend to focus on Obama himself, a leader who perhaps has shifted with politics to take a harder line. But Tufts University political scientist Michael J. Glennon has a more pessimistic answer: Obama couldn’t have changed policies much even if he tried.

Though it’s a bedrock American principle that citizens can steer their own government by electing new officials, Glennon suggests that in practice, much of our government no longer works that way. In a new book, “National Security and Double Government,” he catalogs the ways that the defense and national security apparatus is effectively self-governing, with virtually no accountability, transparency, or checks and balances of any kind. He uses the term “double government”: There’s the one we elect, and then there’s the one behind it, steering huge swaths of policy almost unchecked. Elected officials end up serving as mere cover for the real decisions made by the bureaucracy.

Glennon cites the example of Obama and his team being shocked and angry to discover upon taking office that the military gave them only two options for the war in Afghanistan: The United States could add more troops, or the United States could add a lot more troops. Hemmed in, Obama added 30,000 more troops."



Euphoria

(448 posts)
8. And where has the opposition party
Sun Oct 4, 2015, 12:09 PM
Oct 2015

been?

I'm a Democrat through and through.
I just don't know where my party leadership has been up to. Why can't we get solid leadership movement on these issues?

starroute

(12,977 posts)
9. Stockholm Syndrome
Sun Oct 4, 2015, 12:50 PM
Oct 2015

Like any hostage, the Democratic Party has been sucking up to the hostage takers.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockholm_syndrome

Stockholm syndrome, or capture-bonding, is a psychological phenomenon in which hostages express empathy and sympathy and have positive feelings toward their captors, sometimes to the point of defending and identifying with the captors. These feelings are generally considered irrational in light of the danger or risk endured by the victims, who essentially mistake a lack of abuse from their captors for an act of kindness.

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