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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsFlorida-Man running for office: "I sacrificed an animal ... yes, I drank the goat's blood."
http://www.salon.com/2015/10/05/yes_i_drank_the_goats_blood_libertarian_senate_candidate_also_promises_a_second_civil_war_if_elected/The chairman of the Libertarian Party of Florida has resigned in protest of the senate candidacy of Augustus Sol Invictus, who he claims is trying to fold Neo-Nazis into the party and sadistically dismembered a goat, then drank its blood.
He is the absolute exact opposite of a Libertarian. Hes a self-proclaimed fascist. Hes promoting a second civil war, former chairman Adrian Wylie told the Associated Press. Its absolute insanity. We must explain to people this is the opposite of Libertarians. This guy has no place in the Libertarian Party.
Invictus who changed his name to a Latin phrase meaning majestic unconquered sun and refuses to reveal his given name said that Wylie is merely running a smear campaign. He noted that it wouldnt be in his best interests to support white supremacy, given that his four children are Hispanic. Although he did admit to killing the goat and drinking its blood.
I did sacrifice a goat. I know thats probably a quibble in the mind of most Americans, he said in a telephone interview. I sacrificed an animal to the god of the wilderness yes, I drank the goats blood.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)The relevant questions relate to his fitness for the job, not his religion.
DetlefK
(16,423 posts)Facility Inspector
(615 posts)are fit for office?
Let alone the cannibalistic aspects of Xtianity . . .
0rganism
(23,944 posts)REP
(21,691 posts)It's a tad pedantic, but that's what I like about it
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Do I think people who engage in symbolic eating the flesh of Jesus are fit for office?
Do I think people who make food offerings to idols (encompassing a number of faiths) are fit for office?
How far do you want to go with that?
Jews and Muslims have specific animal slaughter requirements dictated by their religions. Christians engage in symbolic cannibalism (actual cannibalism if they subscribe to transsubtantiation). You'll see incense and food offered to statues in any number of Chinese and Indian restaurants.
Not being a goat myself, then I'd want to know what the guy's plans are for his office.
What he does in his bedroom, church, temple or whatnot, doesn't affect me.
Or is it some kind of "nobody who believes in ridiculous religious ideas should hold office" kind of thing? I'd like to see the list of "religious ideas that are silly" before making that kind of judgment.
REP
(21,691 posts)assuming he ate the goat, butchering an animal to eat involves "brutal dismemberment" or however it was characterized.
And if he ate the goat after sacrificing it, and assuming he sacrificed it by cutting its throat, well I have a lot fewer objections to the sacrifice. My objection to animal sacrifice is that the animal isn't a part of whatever religion and isn't always killed quickly. Killing to eat is much less troublesome somehow. Probably because it's not wasteful.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Kinda weird how people in this culture react to animal slaughter rituals.
The Christian god used to love 'em being killed and burned.
I imagine the Hebrew temple used to smell like one really great barbecue.
REP
(21,691 posts)White supremacy is what caught my eye there though animal cruelty is one of my things.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Do you believe that any god which demands animal sacrifices is "barbaric"?
A simple yes or no will do.
DetlefK
(16,423 posts)That's why I called it barbaric.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)I like how in this version, the children mimic the blood flow of a man being crucified...
Would you be free from the burden of sin?
Theres powr in the blood, powr in the blood;
Would you oer evil a victory win?
Theres wonderful powr in the blood.
Refrain:
There is powr, powr, wonder-working powr
In the blood of the Lamb;
There is powr, powr, wonder-working powr
In the precious blood of the Lamb.
Would you be free from your passion and pride?
Theres powr in the blood, powr in the blood;
Come for a cleansing to Calvarys tide;
Theres wonderful powr in the blood.
Would you be whiter, much whiter than snow?
Theres powr in the blood, powr in the blood;
Sin-stains are lost in its life-giving flow;
Theres wonderful powr in the blood.
Would you do service for Jesus your King?
Theres powr in the blood, powr in the blood;
Would you live daily His praises to sing?
Theres wonderful powr in the blood.
But if you like the classic style....
And nothing but the blood...
Aww... heck, let's get the whole bloodthirsty Gaither clan together on this one:
O victory in Jesus,
My Savior, forever.
He sought me and bought me
With His redeeming blood;
He loved me ere I knew Him
And all my love is due Him,
He plunged me to victory,
Beneath the cleansing flood.
JHB
(37,159 posts)...exactly how did someone "the opposite of Libertarians" came to be a candidate on their ticket?
Edited to add: Hint: he's not as "opposite" as they'd like to think.
GreatGazoo
(3,937 posts)Lochloosa
(16,063 posts)randome
(34,845 posts)[hr][font color="blue"][center]Precision and concision. That's the game.[/center][/font][hr]
packman
(16,296 posts)Can I expect a larger government position - hmmm, makes you wonder about the Repukes elephant symbol.
NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)orwell
(7,771 posts)Baitball Blogger
(46,703 posts)Too crazy even for this state.
sufrommich
(22,871 posts)jberryhill
(62,444 posts)or, for the Protestants...
But, go ahead and tell the guy in the first picture he is not drinking sacrificial blood.
Dang, some of these have gotten pretty cool:
DirkGently
(12,151 posts)He's also keen on fascist symbolism, recently recanted his view that state-enforced eugenics was a great idea, and has talked about going to the wilderness to return with a vengeful army behind him.
And there's the cool name.
http://invictusforsenate.com/faq/