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uhnope

(6,419 posts)
Sun Oct 11, 2015, 03:27 PM Oct 2015

Russian Missile Strikes in Syria Trigger European Alert to Airlines

Russia’s long-range missile strikes against targets in Syria last week have prompted global aviation officials to issue safety alerts to airlines operating over Iraq, Iran, and the Caspian Sea amid heightened concerns about the risk to commercial flying near conflict zones.

Russia’s firing of cruise missiles against Syrian targets from the Caspian Sea and the broader regional conflict led the United Nations’ aviation arm and the agency that oversees European airspace to issue parallel warnings about potential serious risks to flights traversing a region that includes busy routes linking Europe, the Middle East and Asia.

The International Civil Aviation Organization, the U.N.’s air-safety arm, said Friday it had been informed that some carriers had opted to take alternative routes.

Early Sunday, aircraft continued to cross the Caspian Sea and the busy north-south route over western Iran that connects the big three Persian Gulf airport hubs to Europe and the U.S., according to Flightradar24, an online airline tracking service. However, it also flagged a shift by airlines to direct more aircraft over Saudi Arabia and Egypt rather than Iran.


READ MORE http://www.wsj.com/articles/russian-missile-strikes-in-syria-trigger-european-alert-to-airlines-1444473837

Remember MH17

How We Know Russia Shot Down MH17

One year after 298 civilians fell to earth over eastern Ukraine, Putin’s regime is still denying culpability. Here’s definitive evidence to the contrary.

It’s been a year since Malaysia Airlines Flight MH17 was shot out of the sky, killing all 298 civilians onboard. The results of the official inquiry have yet to be released, and while the fact that this Boeing 777 was immolated has not been disputed, various theories have been floated by the Ukrainian government, the Russian government, and other interested parties as to how it was and who ultimately bears responsibility for this tragedy.

The vast majority of the evidence adds credibility to the theory that an anti-aircraft Buk missile launcher, controlled by either Russian soldiers or Russian-backed fighters and fired from a field south of the town of Snezhnoye, destroyed the commercial airliner. The Buk is an advanced weapons system capable of destroying military aircraft or even ballistic missiles at an altitude up to 82,000 feet, and so its presence on Ukraine’s battlefield was always set to change both the scope and intensity of the conflict. But it suspiciously arrived in the arsenal of the Russian-backed fighters at a time when the Ukrainian military was making rapid gains and was perhaps closing in on a military solution to the conflict.


http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/07/17/how-we-know-russia-shot-down-mh17.html
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Russian Missile Strikes in Syria Trigger European Alert to Airlines (Original Post) uhnope Oct 2015 OP
They should be worried Duckhunter935 Oct 2015 #1
Countries that shoot down civilian airliners must be tried in the world court. uawchild Oct 2015 #2
notice a difference btwn those 3 incidents and countries uhnope Oct 2015 #3
Not really. Who went to jail? No one. uawchild Oct 2015 #4
... uhnope Oct 2015 #8
Should Obama be tried at the Hague for bombing a hospital? LittleBlue Oct 2015 #6
Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2015 #7
you forgot to link to the fakenews website you cut and paste from uhnope Oct 2015 #9
No, it's godlike.com, and here's the link: ColesCountyDem Oct 2015 #10
"UFOs, conspiracy theorists, lunatic fringe". Wow at least they're honest. nt uhnope Oct 2015 #11
KAL 007 johnson_z Oct 2015 #5

uawchild

(2,208 posts)
2. Countries that shoot down civilian airliners must be tried in the world court.
Sun Oct 11, 2015, 04:20 PM
Oct 2015

The passing of one year doesn't excuse Russia's culpability in the MH17 tragedy. Those Russian official should be taken to the world court for this crime. There is no statue of limitations for murder.

Similarly, the passing of 14 years doesn't make the Ukraine less culpable for shooting down a Russian civilian airliner. Those Ukraine officials should be taken to the world court for this crime. There is no statue of limitations for murder.

"Ukraine finally admitted yesterday that its military shot down a Russian airliner that crashed into the Black Sea last week, killing all 78 passengers and crew.
Evhen Marchuk, the chairman of Ukraine's security council, conceded that the plane had probably been brought down by "an accidental hit from an S-200 rocket fired during exercises". Russian investigators believe a missile exploded near the plane, spraying it with shrapnel. Russian and Israeli scientists found metal pellets in the victims and in the fuselage.
Vladimir Rushailo, the chairman of Russia's security council, said: "The investigation has found that the disaster resulted from a strike by a warhead from an anti-aircraft missile."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/ukraine/1359353/Ukraine-admits-it-shot-down-Russian-airliner.html

And the passing of 26 years doesn't make the US less culpable for shooting down Iranian civilian Airliner 655. Those US officials should be taken to the world court. There is no statue of limitations for murder.

"The forgotten story of Iran Air Flight 655. Toward the end of the war, on July 3, 1988, a U.S. Navy ship called the Vincennes was exchanging fire with small Iranian ships in the Persian Gulf. The U.S. Navy kept ships there, and still does, to protect oil trade routes. As the American and Iranian ships skirmished, Iran Air Flight 655 took off from nearby Bandar Abbas International Airport, bound for Dubai. The airport was used by both civilian and military aircraft. The Vincennes mistook the lumbering Airbus A300 civilian airliner for a much smaller and faster F-14 fighter jet, perhaps in the heat of battle or perhaps because the flight allegedly did not identify itself. It fired two surface-to-air missiles, killing all 290 passengers and crew members on board."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2013/10/16/the-forgotten-story-of-iran-air-flight-655/

 

uhnope

(6,419 posts)
3. notice a difference btwn those 3 incidents and countries
Sun Oct 11, 2015, 04:41 PM
Oct 2015

Two of the countries quickly admitted responsibility. Russia never has.

uawchild

(2,208 posts)
4. Not really. Who went to jail? No one.
Sun Oct 11, 2015, 04:57 PM
Oct 2015

"Admitting" you "accidentally" murdered hundreds of civilians is noble now? If Pootie Poot "admitted" it was an "accident" tomorrow would that make this all better? No, of course not. Let's not start accepting weak-shit "excuses" and self-serving "apologies" for the senseless murder of civilians.
I would not accept it from the Russians, and I don't accept it from the Ukrainians and the US. The world court should try those involved and the government officials that enable murders like these.

 

uhnope

(6,419 posts)
8. ...
Sun Oct 11, 2015, 06:47 PM
Oct 2015

An accident is not "murder." So that's quite a change in subject. If you start arguing there was intent to murder, you're going to be way out there. And so we're back to my main point, which is when countries make these mistakes, the circumstances surrounding them--and admission of responsibility--makes a huge difference in whether the country is any kind of respected member of the international community. Russia fails to be qualified.

 

LittleBlue

(10,362 posts)
6. Should Obama be tried at the Hague for bombing a hospital?
Sun Oct 11, 2015, 06:04 PM
Oct 2015

I want to know if we're going to be consistent about this. We can't just say that international law is for the countries we don't like and we (and our allies like the Saudis) remain immune.

Response to LittleBlue (Reply #6)

 

uhnope

(6,419 posts)
9. you forgot to link to the fakenews website you cut and paste from
Sun Oct 11, 2015, 06:56 PM
Oct 2015

Ron Paul?
Tony "false flag" Cartalucci?

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