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NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
Thu Oct 29, 2015, 04:44 PM Oct 2015

I think Rubio will be the nom. Will early popularity help or hurt him?

This time last time Herman Cain was the soup du jour and we know how well that worked out for him.

Trump is declining and Carson maybe can ride the peak of the wave for a month. After that, does it hurt Rubio or help him to ascend to the top of the dung heap now and sit there for almost a year before the election.

Personally, I'd like to see him on top, to take blows from all sides for as long as possible. I don't want him to be the late breaking horse that seems to come out of nowhere next April or May.

I think Rubio/Cruz would be a tough ticket, but I doubt their egos would condone the setup.

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RandySF

(59,767 posts)
2. Rubio is not Cain
Thu Oct 29, 2015, 04:47 PM
Oct 2015

Ignore clowns like Trump and Carson. They will not be nominated. Look at Rubio and Kasich and Bush, who is not dead yet (but close).

Bucky

(54,094 posts)
6. Honestly, Bush came off a little clownish
Thu Oct 29, 2015, 05:21 PM
Oct 2015

But yes, Rubio is a far more disciplined candidate than Cain. I don't like the visuals of him running against Clinton next fall. As Democrats we'd basically be counting on two things to win: the voters' brains and his mouth. It's not smart politics to go in banking on the opponent to make a mistake (especially an uncharacteristic mistake). So far he's been pretty slick about playing the "I don't attack my opponents" card.

As nominee, he won't have to attack Clinton. He'll have Trump out there Twittering stink bombs every couple of days (and a compliant media reporting on every little Twittergasm as if it's actually news). This is what a Republican victory would look like... yet another massive game of distraction, followed by President Rubio appointing Ruth Bader Ginsberg's replacement on the Supreme Court.

charlyvi

(6,537 posts)
3. I don't think he's ready for the scrutiny that comes with breaking from the pack too early.
Thu Oct 29, 2015, 04:53 PM
Oct 2015

Whinging will only take you so far; he needs to grow up and start answering some questions. Deflection is not a good campaign strategy.

katmondoo

(6,457 posts)
4. He never shows up for votes in the Senate
Thu Oct 29, 2015, 05:00 PM
Oct 2015

Reid is asking for him to resign. What sort of President will this loser make?

madville

(7,413 posts)
15. Hillary Clinton and Obama
Thu Oct 29, 2015, 10:09 PM
Oct 2015

Showed up for less Senate votes than he has over the same time frame in 2007. That's not an angle that will stick against Hillary when she missed something like 89% of her votes during her 2008 campaign.

Tikki

(14,563 posts)
11. I have always thought they were going to draft ryan at the con-vention.. I have no idea how....
Thu Oct 29, 2015, 05:58 PM
Oct 2015

that would work now with his speakership.

I thought ryan as pres. and rubio as vp.


Tikki

Bucky

(54,094 posts)
7. I don't see Cruz taking the #2 slot. It's a job for a team player.
Thu Oct 29, 2015, 05:30 PM
Oct 2015

As a nominee, Rubio would look to flip the Dems' most vulnerable purple states in the Great Lakes area. A Wisconsin, Ohio, or Illinois Republican would be a very smart move.

But you're right... Rubio's a game changer. He's their best chance against Clinton and he is a VERY disciplined candidate.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
10. I can't stand Rubio, but Hillary would eat him for breakfast.
Thu Oct 29, 2015, 05:51 PM
Oct 2015

So he might be a great choice from our point of view.

H2O Man

(73,694 posts)
16. I think he will
Thu Oct 29, 2015, 10:16 PM
Oct 2015

be selected for VP. I think that while he is able to repeat rehearsed lines very well -- both on the stump, and in debates -- he does not have the depth that either of the two major factions of the republican machine are looking for.

On the other hand, if he stays on script between now and late February, you might very well be right.

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