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How racist are these? (Original Post) Stinky The Clown Oct 2015 OP
I just love the irony of a government agency issuing this shit. ProudToBeBlueInRhody Oct 2015 #1
uber patriotic maybe, but racist? Doubledee Oct 2015 #2
uber patriotic? The folks using them are the ones complaining about the American government, Erich Bloodaxe BSN Oct 2015 #4
Thus the insertion of 'uber' Doubledee Oct 2015 #11
Wiki also said it is the tea party flag Person 2713 Oct 2015 #6
I think it's more libertarian/anti-Government than "racist" (nt) Nye Bevan Oct 2015 #3
Completely ultra-nationalist. Which usually means they are clueless. Rex Oct 2015 #5
There are a lot of things there, but I don't see racism. Rond Vidar Oct 2015 #7
Racist schmacist, they're just dumb tularetom Oct 2015 #8
^^^This^^^ ProfessorGAC Oct 2015 #12
Not racist at all Reter Oct 2015 #9
The flag has been misappropriated, unfortunately. MADem Aug 2016 #22
I think the Gadsden flag is neat, and there's nothing inherently racist about it at all. Codeine Oct 2015 #10
I have always liked that flag. Way before the Teabaggers tried to appropriate it. Throd Oct 2015 #19
So teabaggers pay a premium to the state Blue_Tires Oct 2015 #13
Not racist. Brickbat Oct 2015 #14
Not at all... TipTok Oct 2015 #15
Not racist in the slightest. nt Crabby Appleton Oct 2015 #16
Not racist, just asking for trouble from state/county/Fed agencies. ileus Oct 2015 #17
Not racist. Throd Oct 2015 #18
I don't really see any racism in the flag. Reminds me of that movie with Mel Gibson, bravenak Oct 2015 #20
That said, if we're talking about Mel Gibson, the man.... MADem Aug 2016 #23
omg bravenak Aug 2016 #24
Not racist, Just patriotic if not Anti-racist! synonymous321 Aug 2016 #21

Doubledee

(137 posts)
2. uber patriotic maybe, but racist?
Thu Oct 29, 2015, 09:12 PM
Oct 2015

The Gadsden Flag:

Positioned below the rattlesnake are the words "Don't tread on me". The flag is named after American general and statesman Christopher Gadsden (1724–1805), who designed it in 1775 during the American Revolution. It was also used by the Continental Marines as an early motto flag, along with the Moultrie Flag.

(from wiki)

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
4. uber patriotic? The folks using them are the ones complaining about the American government,
Thu Oct 29, 2015, 09:17 PM
Oct 2015

talking about secession, going around calling themselves 'sovereign citizens' and various nutjob things. More treasonous than patriotic.

Doubledee

(137 posts)
11. Thus the insertion of 'uber'
Fri Oct 30, 2015, 07:44 AM
Oct 2015

My comment referenced the mistaken belief that the symbol was racist, it is not.

Person 2713

(3,263 posts)
6. Wiki also said it is the tea party flag
Thu Oct 29, 2015, 09:20 PM
Oct 2015

Tea Party Movement symbol Edit

The flag at a Tea Party rally in September 2009.
Beginning in 2009 at Tea Party rallies, the Gadsden Flag has been adopted as a symbol of the American Tea Party movement.[9][10][11][12] It was also displayed by members of Congress at Tea Party movement rallies.[13] Some lawmakers have called it a "political symbol" because of this association.[11][14]



Tea partiers are as a group are pretty damn racists IMO
Although they do claim to be patriots

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
5. Completely ultra-nationalist. Which usually means they are clueless.
Thu Oct 29, 2015, 09:18 PM
Oct 2015

They inhabit a large area around me in South Texas. Not to be confused with Texas Proper...we hate those assholes! Fuckin bring it Texas Proper!

 

Reter

(2,188 posts)
9. Not racist at all
Thu Oct 29, 2015, 10:37 PM
Oct 2015

It's the Gadsden flag, an official flag that was designed it in 1775. Unfortunately, it is used by some racists. On the flip side, many some here use it as their avatar.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
22. The flag has been misappropriated, unfortunately.
Sun Aug 14, 2016, 12:21 AM
Aug 2016

It's a dog whistle to racist, secessionist lunatics, these days.

Hard to know if the nation will ever be able to reclaim it. It will take a long time, I suspect.


Not quite as bad as how the Nazis "ruined" the swastika, which had a lot of positive connotations before they got ahold of it--now it sends chills down one's spine.

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
10. I think the Gadsden flag is neat, and there's nothing inherently racist about it at all.
Thu Oct 29, 2015, 10:46 PM
Oct 2015

I don't display it any way because sadly it's been co-opted by shitheads and I don't want to be associated with those people in any way, but it's been a part of the crowd at USA national team soccer games in the past and has a proud history that predates the teafucks.

Throd

(7,208 posts)
19. I have always liked that flag. Way before the Teabaggers tried to appropriate it.
Fri Oct 30, 2015, 11:16 AM
Oct 2015

I still like it and won't concede it to them.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
13. So teabaggers pay a premium to the state
Fri Oct 30, 2015, 08:25 AM
Oct 2015

just for plates that display their political ignorance?

Sounds like a win-win all around for me...The state gets extra revenues, and it's much easier for me to identify who my potential enemies are...

ileus

(15,396 posts)
17. Not racist, just asking for trouble from state/county/Fed agencies.
Fri Oct 30, 2015, 09:30 AM
Oct 2015

That plate is guaranteed to get you more attention than you want with LEO encounters with. For all we know that plate could trigger additional NSA attention, and maybe even plop you on a terrorist watch list with the Feds.




MADem

(135,425 posts)
23. That said, if we're talking about Mel Gibson, the man....
Sun Aug 14, 2016, 12:23 AM
Aug 2016

That dude has some serious racist and sexist issues...for starters!!!

synonymous321

(1 post)
21. Not racist, Just patriotic if not Anti-racist!
Sat Aug 13, 2016, 05:58 PM
Aug 2016

The Gadsden Flag is used by our Navy. The snake and "don't tread on me" are used by various armed forces. The battle flag is racist but ignorant rednecks wear it all the time, thinking it represents their country life when it just makes them look racist.

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