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Photographer

(1,142 posts)
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 07:37 PM Nov 2015

Three people hospitalized after conceal-carry Florida Man accidentally shoots up a Cracker Barrel

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Another day, another good guy with a gun accidentally dropping his gun and accidentally shooting several people. This time it was at a Florida Cracker Barrel, where patrons were enjoying their Sunday morning breakfast when BAM! A fellow patron's gun fell out of his holster:

Deputies said the weapon fell out of the gun owner’s holster while he was walking through the dining room of the Cracker Barrel in Sanford.

Deputies said William Hoback was talking to the checkout counter when his gun slipped out of his holster and fired.

The bullet hit a kettle, which sent fragments flying.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/11/04/1444653/-Three-shot-in-a-Cracker-Barrel-restaurant-after-Florida-Man-s-concealed-gun-falls-out-of-holster?detail=facebook

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Three people hospitalized after conceal-carry Florida Man accidentally shoots up a Cracker Barrel (Original Post) Photographer Nov 2015 OP
Quit mocking that poor responsible gun owner! Erich Bloodaxe BSN Nov 2015 #1
boy is his insurance gonna go up! wendylaroux Nov 2015 #2
The important thing is he still has his gun and his conceal like an idiot permit randys1 Nov 2015 #3
I like how gunowners and nearly kill people and walk away. denverbill Nov 2015 #4
Guns are sacred. Crunchy Frog Nov 2015 #8
GUN HUMPERS HAVE WON Skittles Nov 2015 #28
Well Controllers have won back GD, evidently. Eleanors38 Nov 2015 #42
Like shooting crackers in a barrel. kwassa Nov 2015 #5
Remember, guns don't shoot people, people shoot.... Wait. Never mind. Photographer Nov 2015 #6
Excellent! alcina Nov 2015 #19
ROFL Oilwellian Nov 2015 #33
It's going to be a very, very long time before my sons get to see Disney World. Crunchy Frog Nov 2015 #7
There's always Disneyland KamaAina Nov 2015 #10
Florida is much closer, and I prefer the beaches there. Crunchy Frog Nov 2015 #12
Flori-DUH mdbl Nov 2015 #23
but I simply wouldn't feel comfortable taking them to that whacked out state. AlbertCat Nov 2015 #30
my ex inlaws took us there a few times... irisblue Nov 2015 #9
would you be happier if these people had been wounded by a dropped baseball bat? Doctor_J Nov 2015 #11
Could have just as easily dropped a plate and hit people with the shards. Crunchy Frog Nov 2015 #13
SHIT HAPPENS! ProudToBeBlueInRhody Nov 2015 #14
God & Guns SoCalMusicLover Nov 2015 #15
New Church angrychair Nov 2015 #17
WHOOPS! retrowire Nov 2015 #16
No need to shoot people in a Thespian2 Nov 2015 #18
Can't agree. Love the food. Not ashamed. nt ScreamingMeemie Nov 2015 #45
I wouldn't trust anyone with a gun who talks to checkout counters groundloop Nov 2015 #20
Sanford, FL in the news again... tom_kelly Nov 2015 #21
Perhaps the most amazing element of the story - uncontrolled gunfire erupting bullwinkle428 Nov 2015 #35
You guys, he HAD to bring his gun to CB! Arugula Latte Nov 2015 #22
Always a proper holster...always ileus Nov 2015 #24
I have a LC9 but thinking of switching. nt Logical Nov 2015 #34
I have a friend that has the 9s ileus Nov 2015 #39
Like shooting fish in a barrel. kairos12 Nov 2015 #25
And he won't be arrested. That's the biggest crime. nt valerief Nov 2015 #26
Surprised there weren't numerous... 63splitwindow Nov 2015 #27
Hooray guns!!!! Initech Nov 2015 #29
I think what probably happend here... Kang Colby Nov 2015 #31
I agree, but also think he should be arrested for being wreck-less. nt Logical Nov 2015 #36
I'm ok with that. Revoke his permit too. n/t Kang Colby Nov 2015 #37
"talking to the counter"???? hmm, sounds like some serious issues there (or the writer needs niyad Nov 2015 #32
Has there ever been a more aptly named restaurant? n/t IDemo Nov 2015 #38
yet another moron with a gun. nt Javaman Nov 2015 #40
just "fell out" of his holster?? Saphire Nov 2015 #41
So this time can we say the gun was at fault? No doubt someone will blame gravity. Rex Nov 2015 #43
Oh, that poor, poor gun. Iggo Nov 2015 #44

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
1. Quit mocking that poor responsible gun owner!
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 07:41 PM
Nov 2015

Since it was an 'accident', I'm sure no one would even think to suggest any charges should be filed.

AHA! Called it!

According a local news report, police will not say whether Hoback had a conceal-carry permit, but they have said they do NOT intend to file criminal charges.


wendylaroux

(2,925 posts)
2. boy is his insurance gonna go up!
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 07:41 PM
Nov 2015

wait,what?

randys1

(16,286 posts)
3. The important thing is he still has his gun and his conceal like an idiot permit
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 07:43 PM
Nov 2015

denverbill

(11,489 posts)
4. I like how gunowners and nearly kill people and walk away.
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 07:45 PM
Nov 2015

"According a local news report, police will not say whether Hoback had a conceal-carry permit, but they have said they do NOT intend to file criminal charges."

If I was stopped at a stoplight in my car, and was checkign my cellphone and accidentally released the brake and ran into a pedestrian in the crosswalk, I'd definitely be charged with something.

But some nincompoop with a loaded gun can take it into a crowded restaurant and drop it and injure 3 people and won't even get his hand slapped. He should be charged with reckless endangerment or at least be stripped of his right to own or carry guns.

Crunchy Frog

(26,587 posts)
8. Guns are sacred.
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 07:55 PM
Nov 2015

Cell phones, cars, and human lives, not so much.

Skittles

(153,160 posts)
28. GUN HUMPERS HAVE WON
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 10:08 PM
Nov 2015

COWARDICE TRUMPS ALL

 

Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)
42. Well Controllers have won back GD, evidently.
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 06:04 PM
Nov 2015


Can't complain when you got two groups and one Forum anytime you want.


kwassa

(23,340 posts)
5. Like shooting crackers in a barrel.
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 07:50 PM
Nov 2015
 

Photographer

(1,142 posts)
6. Remember, guns don't shoot people, people shoot.... Wait. Never mind.
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 07:53 PM
Nov 2015

alcina

(602 posts)
19. Excellent!
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 09:11 PM
Nov 2015

Oilwellian

(12,647 posts)
33. ROFL
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 10:41 PM
Nov 2015

That was hysterical.

Crunchy Frog

(26,587 posts)
7. It's going to be a very, very long time before my sons get to see Disney World.
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 07:53 PM
Nov 2015

Which I'm not happy about, but I simply wouldn't feel comfortable taking them to that whacked out state.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
10. There's always Disneyland
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 08:05 PM
Nov 2015

although Orange County is a reddish pocket in our Blue state.

Crunchy Frog

(26,587 posts)
12. Florida is much closer, and I prefer the beaches there.
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 08:10 PM
Nov 2015

My dad took us to Disneyworld and the Bahamas when I was ten, and it was one of the best experiences of my childhood.

Maybe Florida will get sane while my sons are still kids, but I'm not holding my breath.

mdbl

(4,973 posts)
23. Flori-DUH
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 09:44 PM
Nov 2015

Used to be my favorite column in the Orlando Sentinel. This situation certainly fits.

 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
30. but I simply wouldn't feel comfortable taking them to that whacked out state.
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 10:30 PM
Nov 2015

Just get them a gun, or two or a dozen, and yourself too.

More gun make things more safe, doncha know.

irisblue

(32,974 posts)
9. my ex inlaws took us there a few times...
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 08:01 PM
Nov 2015

And since "Hoback was talking to the checkout counter " mental competence issues or just poor writing? (bold text mine).

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
11. would you be happier if these people had been wounded by a dropped baseball bat?
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 08:08 PM
Nov 2015

Got my gunster talking point in.

Crunchy Frog

(26,587 posts)
13. Could have just as easily dropped a plate and hit people with the shards.
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 08:13 PM
Nov 2015

What, you wanna ban plates now?

(another talking point)

The critical question that no one is asking: Was the firearm harmed in any way?

ProudToBeBlueInRhody

(16,399 posts)
14. SHIT HAPPENS!
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 08:14 PM
Nov 2015

I bet they find out nobody prayed before the meal. That'll teach 'em!

 

SoCalMusicLover

(3,194 posts)
15. God & Guns
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 08:25 PM
Nov 2015

If Jesus were alive, you could bet he would be concealed carrying.

angrychair

(8,699 posts)
17. New Church
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 09:05 PM
Nov 2015

Along the same line as though snake handling churches but with guns.
During the service, you throw a bunch of loaded, hair-trigger, guns into the air. If you get shot and die, it's because you Jesus didn't love you.

retrowire

(10,345 posts)
16. WHOOPS!
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 08:58 PM
Nov 2015

Oopsie!

facepalm*

Thespian2

(2,741 posts)
18. No need to shoot people in a
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 09:10 PM
Nov 2015

Cracker Barrel...the food alone is enough to put them in a hospital...

ScreamingMeemie

(68,918 posts)
45. Can't agree. Love the food. Not ashamed. nt
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 06:11 PM
Nov 2015

groundloop

(11,519 posts)
20. I wouldn't trust anyone with a gun who talks to checkout counters
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 09:13 PM
Nov 2015
Deputies said William Hoback was talking to the checkout counter .....




That guy seriously needs to be charged and face jail time. ANYONE who carries a weapon needs to be responsible enough to ensure that shit like this doesn't happen, and they need to face consequences if they fail that.

tom_kelly

(959 posts)
21. Sanford, FL in the news again...
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 09:35 PM
Nov 2015

The lovely hometown of George Zimmerman.

bullwinkle428

(20,629 posts)
35. Perhaps the most amazing element of the story - uncontrolled gunfire erupting
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 10:42 PM
Nov 2015

in Sanford, FL, that did NOT involve George Zimmerman.

 

Arugula Latte

(50,566 posts)
22. You guys, he HAD to bring his gun to CB!
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 09:38 PM
Nov 2015

I mean, what if someone had tried to accost him with an extra sharp cheddar loaf?! Jeez. Think, people!

ileus

(15,396 posts)
24. Always a proper holster...always
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 09:46 PM
Nov 2015

and folks new to CC should consider a firearm with a manual safety.

The M&P Shield with safety would be a great "starter" gun for CC.

 

Logical

(22,457 posts)
34. I have a LC9 but thinking of switching. nt
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 10:42 PM
Nov 2015

ileus

(15,396 posts)
39. I have a friend that has the 9s
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 07:55 AM
Nov 2015

He had the LC 9 then bought the 9s....really nice shooting pistol.

kairos12

(12,861 posts)
25. Like shooting fish in a barrel.
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 09:59 PM
Nov 2015

valerief

(53,235 posts)
26. And he won't be arrested. That's the biggest crime. nt
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 09:59 PM
Nov 2015
 

63splitwindow

(2,657 posts)
27. Surprised there weren't numerous...
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 10:06 PM
Nov 2015

returns of fire.

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Initech

(100,075 posts)
29. Hooray guns!!!!
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 10:16 PM
Nov 2015
 

Kang Colby

(1,941 posts)
31. I think what probably happend here...
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 10:32 PM
Nov 2015

was the guy was adjusting the firearm in his holster, the gun started to slip, he grabbed it by the trigger, it went off and dropped to the floor. Extremely unlikely the gun went off simply by being dropped. That just doesn't happen with modern handguns. For most handguns it's nearly impossible.

I realize people who do this stupid stuff almost always use the, "it just dropped and miraculously fired" excuse. But it's BS. Unless the handgun was made in 1902, its about as likely as spontaneous combustion.

 

Logical

(22,457 posts)
36. I agree, but also think he should be arrested for being wreck-less. nt
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 10:43 PM
Nov 2015
 

Kang Colby

(1,941 posts)
37. I'm ok with that. Revoke his permit too. n/t
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 10:44 PM
Nov 2015

niyad

(113,303 posts)
32. "talking to the counter"???? hmm, sounds like some serious issues there (or the writer needs
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 10:33 PM
Nov 2015

a refresher course)

IDemo

(16,926 posts)
38. Has there ever been a more aptly named restaurant? n/t
Wed Nov 4, 2015, 10:46 PM
Nov 2015

Javaman

(62,530 posts)
40. yet another moron with a gun. nt
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 09:55 AM
Nov 2015

Saphire

(2,437 posts)
41. just "fell out" of his holster??
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 09:59 AM
Nov 2015
 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
43. So this time can we say the gun was at fault? No doubt someone will blame gravity.
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 06:06 PM
Nov 2015

Why do we carry these small death machines? Oh right, others have small death machines.

Iggo

(47,552 posts)
44. Oh, that poor, poor gun.
Thu Nov 5, 2015, 06:09 PM
Nov 2015

It must have been so scared.

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