I'm getting sick of you conservatives-what a Godless bunch of selfish excuses for human beings

[Stargazer99]

Paul Rand is a perfect example: insists on taking time to be with his family but thinks the working class and poor should not have the same privileges as he has. Some people are better than others? You take the stinking attitude. This country is becoming like Jolly Old England. Does it dawn on one of your well-heed jerks? Or do you not give a damn about anything but yourself?
You idiot anti-abortionist who think you are on the side of morality are as stupid as they get. People with money can go outside the US to get an abortion, but you anti-abortionist torment the poor and lower classes, doesn't take much in this political system to screw the poor. Especially, with the stinking attitude that the poor are lazy and deserve the torment you are so willing to give to them.
You anti-abortionist play right into the hands of the well to do. Who in hell do you think get killed and maimed on the front lines of the wars you are so willing to tolerate? Abundant children mean more potential soldiers and low paying jobs. And you don't even take care of your wounded in war. Take a good look at what you are doing if you have any honesty, its ugly.
You who have money and power are the PROBLEM, not the teachers, public schools, etc, YOU and your sick moral ideals. I wish the 99% would get enough of your selfish garbage and start make like a living hell for you as you have done to countless.
Your market will decide crap, kills people, the government makes you be responsible for food that doesn't kill you and you idiots wants to kill government power so you can make more money! Take a good honest look at yourself if you have the courage..YOU ARE THE PROBLEM.

[Codeine]

1. AntiabortionistS.

When did not pluralizing words that end in "ist" become the norm?

Other than that, righteous rant!

[smirkymonkey]

2. Do you mean Paul Ryan?

[BlueMTexpat]

3. Or Rand Paul?

It does get confusing?

[Frank Cannon]

19. Or Ayn Rand?

I can't keep any of them straight. It's like an Abbott and Costello routine.

[demwing]

48. Instead of "Who's on 1st" it's "Who comes 1st"

and the answer is always someone named "Ron" or "Ryan" or "Rand" or ""Paul," or sometimes "Scott."

But it's never you or me...

[Stargazer99]

11. Yes, Paul Ryan, thanks

[AtheistCrusader]

68. Paul Ryan is a Catholic. Not a 'godless' whatever.

Try harder.

[Act_of_Reparation]

4. So we are to take it "godless" is some kind of negative character trait?

[Stargazer99]

12. I've known athiest with far more humane attitude than conservatives

[Arugula Latte]

16. Well, that was a weird-ass and highly inaccurate choice of words.

[Iggo]

30. So if you know more humane godless people, why call the inhumane godless?

It makes no sense, man!

[Fumesucker]

34. It's the worst slur he/she can think of..

[Warren DeMontague]

54. Because it's totally astounding that some conservatives are even WORSE that teh godless, silly

I mean, who would think anyone could be worse than teh "godless"?

[Stargazer99]

69. The basic rule "do unto others as you would have done to you"

generally decent behavior is advised from religion...that doesn't mean it is the only source of wisdom

[Iggo]

70. So insulting a whole bunch of atheists...

...while trying to insult a whole bunch of actual christians by calling THEM atheists.

That falls within your "do unto others" basic rule exactly how?

[Goblinmonger]

36. So where do atheists fit in?

Perhaps you want to give us a clear hierarchy of your attitudes toward groups of people.

[Warren DeMontague]

52. WOW!!!!! REALLY?

YOU'VE KNOWN -ATHEISTS- WHO WERE MORE HUMANE THAN CONSEVATIVES?!?! EVEN THOUGH THEY WERE ..GASP... ATHEISTS?!?!

HOLY FUCK, THAT'S AMAZING!!!!

[Oneironaut]

37. They are "Godless" in the sense that they nullify their own God.

Basically, "Jesus said you should give to the poor and help others? Let me hoard money and actively try to generate more poor people." They are Godless in a different sense.

[Lordquinton]

38. They claim they are worshiping the right way

Who are you to question them?

There is no "in another way" for this. It's like saying "no, I meant gay in a trash in the street way" you can't separate it from other meanings, and by doing so you continue to harm people you know and care about.

[Oneironaut]

40. Because they're full of shit

If I say, "Everyone should follow Jesus's teachings" and then do the exact opposite, that doesn't make any sense. The type that that the OP is talking about won't shut up about "Gawd," but at the same time doesn't follow those teachings either. They mostly cherry pick things that suit their agendas.

I don't believe in God, so "Godless" is meaningless as an insult to me. Why would I care if someone is claiming that I don't follow a goofy, all-powerful sky-fairy? It's not even an insult.

[Lordquinton]

41. I'm an atheist and I take offence to it

And it's meant as an insult and promotes centuries- no millenia of hate and oppression and yes even murder of those deemed "goddless" so it actually is a big deal.

And they will point to your post saying it's fine with you and ignore the dozens of other posts saying it's wrong. Think about that.

[OriginalGeek]

43. But he isn't calling YOU godless.

He saying these lowly, disgusting poor excuses for human beings are godless. And so since we are also godless we are now associated with selfish, hateful people.

[JI7]

50. the point is you equate being a good person with belief in God

[Oneironaut]

57. I must be a self-loathing, terrible person, then.

1. I don't.
2. I don't believe in God.

[JI7]

58. your argument is still a problem. you can correct out by taking out godless

[Oneironaut]

60. I'm not the OP

[Act_of_Reparation]

45. Yeah, that's bullshit.

I applaud the effort, though. You must get up very early in the morning.

[Oneironaut]

47. No, I just enjoy making posts with actual content.

I'm honored you found my post response-worthy, though...

[Act_of_Reparation]

66. If by "content" you mean "fiction", then you must be pretty pleased with yourself.

Though I don't imagine there's much market for a "Choose Your Own Adventure"-style dictionary.

[Warren DeMontague]

56. Yeah, i cant imagine why any Atheist would take offense to "godless" being used as a slur.

[Oneironaut]

59. It's not even a slur. It's just stupid.

If I said, "You don't believe in purple dragons on the moon, and that makes you a bad person," the statement is just as (not) insulting. I don't care if someone thinks they're insulting me by calling me a nonbeliever. I wear the label with pride.

[Warren DeMontague]

62. You are confusing being personally hurt with something being inappropriate and bigoted.

it is offensive and it doesnt belong here, any more than any other similar sort of bigoted use of a term would.

[MindPilot]

5. Conservatives are a lot of things; many you have accurately described.

But godless sure ain't one of them. In fact quite the opposite is true; they are very, very god-full.

[whatthehey]

8. Which is actually rather the problem

If they weren't so keen on godbothering they wouldn't be anywhere near as dangerous and vile.

[Stargazer99]

10. If wealth is a sign of God approving of you (to hell with the poor...they asked for it)

Apparently God approves of the drug dealers, gangs, etc......

[Stargazer99]

13. Jesus would say to many of conservatives (I know you not) because they do not express love and

concern for others...only to the degree it benefits them

[trotsky]

25. Jesus might also ask you why you haven't sold everything you own.

Careful now.

[BuelahWitch]

44. They don't know that Jesus

They only know Supply Side Jesus

[treestar]

55. Hilarious!

[Mariana]

63. Jesus also said his followers have to hate their families.

Most Christians I know ignore that particular teaching. Does that make them Godless? Will Jesus deny them because love their families, against his very clear instructions?

Luke 14:25

Jesus also said he'll reward those who abandon their families for him. Are deadbeat parents the best Christians, then? He doesn't even want them to say goodbye or explain what they're up to, they're supposed to leave the family to wonder what the hell happened to them and to file a missing person report.

Matthew 19:29
Luke 9:61-62

[Stargazer99]

15. ISIS thinks they are upright also.....American Taliban fits perfectly

[randys1]

26. I am so tired of being angry at them, so tired of the outrage.

So the other day I tried to make nice with some on a board, but I couldnt keep it up for long.

I really do understand every single thing they believe, why, and I know it is not possible to change them UNTIL they personally experience that which they want to take from others - until they have to choose between bread and the antibiotics that keep them from vomiting all day long, they wont understand.

I feel like I and you and others, we have been patient.

We have explained it to them over and over.

I am out of patience, but I dont want to be.

[Person 2713]

6. Pro life = pro poverty. A rich women will pull money out of the bank ,get on a plane and

get an abortion
A middle class woman will pull out a credit card , get on a plane and get an abortion
Poor , lower class screwed if no money and no available credit . No choice

[el_bryanto]

7. Jolly old England doesn't sound so bad. It's jolly for one thing.

But I think perhaps you mean in the rigid class system? In which case you might want to qualify it with a date.

Bryant

[Stargazer99]

9. yes, I mean a class system-an evil

[Arugula Latte]

14. They're not "Godless" -- their professed belief in their invisible imaginary friend

is a big part of what makes them awful human beings because they can attribute any horrible idea to their nonexistent deity and people are too afraid to call them out on it.

[Initech]

17. Remember - Jesus himself said that the dark one will pose as creature of light.

[LostOne4Ever]

18. Please remove the term "godless" from this. Thank you. nt

[Mariana]

20. See post #12 on this thread.

The OP claims to have known atheists with far more humane attitude than conservatives. Imagine that! That tells us how horrible conservatives really are. Why, they're even worse than atheists!

[trotsky]

24. Wow.

Nice to know I'm not at the absolute bottom of the list, I guess.

[Mariana]

39. It seems you're very close to the absolute bottom.

I can't imagine how it is you're not a conservative, since you don't have Jesus in your life to tell you it's harmful and destructive and just plain wrong. You couldn't possibly figure out on your own that Republican policies are bad news.

, as if you needed to be told.

And here I thought God is the one who ultimately decides who is really a Christian and who isn't. Did he need some time off, so he hired the job out the OP, or what?

[trotsky]

42. I love getting edumacated here on the DU!

What would I do without godsplainers to make things clear that I'm not *quite* as bad as conservative supply-siders?

[Nye Bevan]

21. Jolly Old England has universal health care. (nt)

[Fumesucker]

22. You have it exactly backwards...

Religious upbringing associated with less altruism, study finds

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1218216990

A team of developmental psychologists led by Prof. Jean Decety examined the perceptions and behavior of children in six countries. The study assessed the children’s tendency to share—a measure of their altruism—and their inclination to judge and punish others for bad behavior.

Children from religious families were less likely to share with others than were children from non-religious families (...). A religious upbringing also was associated with more punitive tendencies in response to anti-social behavior. (...)

For the altruism task, children participated in a version of the “Dictator Game,” in which they were given 10 stickers and provided an opportunity to share them with another unseen child. Altruism was measured by the average number of stickers shared.

For the moral sensitivity task, children watched short animations in which one character pushes or bumps another, either accidentally or purposefully. After seeing each situation, children were asked about how mean the behavior was and the amount of punishment the character deserved. (NB: Muslim kids dish out the harshest punishments) (...)

Children from religious households favored stronger punishments for anti-social behavior and judged such behavior more harshly than non-religious children. (...) “Together, these results reveal the similarity across countries in how religion negatively influences children’s altruism. (...)

The study was supported by a grant from the John Templeton Foundation.

http://news.uchicago.edu/article/2015/11/05/religious-upbringing-associated-less-altruism-study-finds#sthash.XiPDlIqD.dpuf

[trotsky]

23. Godless?

Excuse me?

[Lordquinton]

27. Woah, hang on, Godless?

Can you not use that term as an insult?

Keep in mind that Ryan is Catholic, and Bohner said God told him to get Ryan as the speaker, and that's what convinced Ryan to take the job. Like it or not God is very much a part of the deal.

[Rex]

28. You mean conservatives don't practice what they preach?

Preach it! I would say the one trait they all have is an enormous amount of selfishness. And I don't mean toward their family. Most seem to care less about their family.

[DLevine]

29. I am proud to be a godless liberal. nt

[Goblinmonger]

31. Godless? That's a slur now on a progressive site?

Why don't you go fuck yourself. How long would this last if you had called them "gay"?

[Lordquinton]

32. +1

Not acceptable here, or anywhere.

[Oneironaut]

33. Conservatives want a tiered society with clear differences and privileges.

They want it to be constantly known to poor and/or non-white people that they have a "place," and that they should stay there. They feel that they are entitled to better jobs, better stuff to buy, and a better life. They don't want to help the poor because they always want someone to look down upon.

[Bluenorthwest]

35. Maternity pay and leave, from Jolly Old England.gov

Up to a year, two weeks compulsory, four for factory workers. First six paid at 90% of your salary. Remaining time at a lower, stipend like rate.

https://www.gov.uk/maternity-pay-leave/overview

[mr blur]

46. Well, from Jolly Old England, why don't you fuck off?

That's the Jolly Old England with a Health Service, Maternity Leave, a reasonable Minimum Wage, no lunatics with guns, no Creationist right-wing loonies who want to run the place, no reverance for mid- to far -Right multi millionaires queueing up to buy that leadership, no chance of becoming a theocracy in the next decade, etc. etc.

[Humanist_Activist]

49. They are far from godless, they are god-bothering sycophants who are faithful to their beliefs...

including their belief in their chosen God.

[JI7]

51. you are claiming being Godless makes one a bad person

[m-lekktor]

53. being "godless" is a GOOD thing from where i sit. nt

[ileus]

61. Wait...don't we like godless people???

[Solly Mack]

64. I'm sans a god.

Though if I were to seek one I think I'd go looking in Jolly Old England so my god could have a sexy accent and a dry wit.

[ErikJ]

65. Religious upbringing associated with less altruism, study finds

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1218216990

Religious upbringing associated with less altruism, study finds

By Susie Allen - November 5, 2015 - The University of Chicago

A team of developmental psychologists led by Prof. Jean Decety examined the perceptions and behavior of children in six countries. The study assessed the children’s tendency to share—a measure of their altruism—and their inclination to judge and punish others for bad behavior.

Children from religious families were less likely to share with others than were children from non-religious families (...). A religious upbringing also was associated with more punitive tendencies in response to anti-social behavior. (...)

For the altruism task, children participated in a version of the “Dictator Game,” in which they were given 10 stickers and provided an opportunity to share them with another unseen child. Altruism was measured by the average number of stickers shared.

For the moral sensitivity task, children watched short animations in which one character pushes or bumps another, either accidentally or purposefully. After seeing each situation, children were asked about how mean the behavior was and the amount of punishment the character deserved. (NB: Muslim kids dish out the harshest punishments) (...)

Children from religious households favored stronger punishments for anti-social behavior and judged such behavior more harshly than non-religious children. (...) “Together, these results reveal the similarity across countries in how religion negatively influences children’s altruism. (...)

The study was supported by a grant from the John Templeton Foundation.

- See more at: http://news.uchicago.edu/article/2015/11/05/religious-upbringing-associated-less-altruism-study-finds#sthash.XiPDlIqD.dpuf

[AtheistCrusader]

67. Swinging a mighty big brush there, bucky.

Your aim sucks.

I'd chill out if I were you.

[WhaTHellsgoingonhere]

71. Granddaddy of all ironies: they are Calvinists

As much as they pillory the French, they owe their entire Christian ideology to a Frenchman, Jehan Cauvin.