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Sun Nov 8, 2015, 07:54 PM

Dubya Did Not Keep Us Safe

The idea he did a fact free fallacy.

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Reply Dubya Did Not Keep Us Safe (Original post)
libodem Nov 2015 OP
Atman Nov 2015 #1
Wellstone ruled Nov 2015 #2
napkinz Nov 2015 #3
libodem Nov 2015 #12
napkinz Nov 2015 #30
libodem Nov 2015 #34
malaise Nov 2015 #4
napkinz Nov 2015 #5
napkinz Nov 2015 #6
libodem Nov 2015 #13
Gothmog Nov 2015 #7
napkinz Nov 2015 #8
brewens Nov 2015 #9
napkinz Nov 2015 #10
libodem Nov 2015 #14
brewens Nov 2015 #16
libodem Nov 2015 #17
Octafish Nov 2015 #11
libodem Nov 2015 #15
Octafish Nov 2015 #18
libodem Nov 2015 #19
Proud Liberal Dem Nov 2015 #20
libodem Nov 2015 #21
Proud Liberal Dem Nov 2015 #22
libodem Nov 2015 #23
Proud Liberal Dem Nov 2015 #24
libodem Nov 2015 #25
napkinz Nov 2015 #38
libodem Nov 2015 #39
randys1 Nov 2015 #26
libodem Nov 2015 #27
randys1 Nov 2015 #28
libodem Nov 2015 #29
napkinz Nov 2015 #37
kairos12 Nov 2015 #31
napkinz Nov 2015 #35
lpbk2713 Nov 2015 #32
libodem Nov 2015 #33
napkinz Nov 2015 #36
libodem Nov 2015 #40
napkinz Nov 2015 #41
libodem Nov 2015 #42
napkinz Nov 2015 #43
libodem Nov 2015 #44
napkinz Nov 2015 #45
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Response to libodem (Original post)

Sun Nov 8, 2015, 08:17 PM

1. You're shootin' fish in a barrel with this one.

Bang bang!

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Response to libodem (Original post)

Sun Nov 8, 2015, 08:20 PM

2. Perfect score 6 for 6

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Response to libodem (Original post)

Sun Nov 8, 2015, 08:25 PM

3. Reagan & Bush ... Fathers of Al Qaeda & ISIS













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Response to napkinz (Reply #3)

Sun Nov 8, 2015, 10:33 PM

12. My hat's off to you

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Response to libodem (Reply #12)

Mon Nov 9, 2015, 02:55 PM

30. thank you libodem

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Response to napkinz (Reply #30)

Mon Nov 9, 2015, 06:05 PM

34. Very Welcome

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Response to libodem (Original post)

Sun Nov 8, 2015, 08:28 PM

4. Off to the greatest page

I will rec every one of these threads - the lie must die.

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Response to libodem (Original post)

Sun Nov 8, 2015, 08:30 PM

5. "my brother kept us safe"




(must see video)



































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Response to libodem (Original post)

Sun Nov 8, 2015, 08:37 PM

6. Bush kept me safe!





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Response to napkinz (Reply #6)

Sun Nov 8, 2015, 10:34 PM

13. Perfect

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Response to libodem (Original post)

Sun Nov 8, 2015, 09:36 PM

7. W did not keep the US safe

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Response to libodem (Original post)

Sun Nov 8, 2015, 10:19 PM

8. let's not forget Katrina ...







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Response to libodem (Original post)

Sun Nov 8, 2015, 10:23 PM

9. It's also part of why they are so foaming at the mouth over Benghazi. It was at first that it was

a terrorist attack on Obama's watch. It wasn't exactly cool to say it was only four guys vs almost 3000 on 9/11. Then they were all ready to come back with saying, "oh, like four dead Americans don't count?"

They were burning to be able to hang something like a 9/11 attack on Obama. I'd say they would have given up another 3000 of us to have done so.

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Response to brewens (Reply #9)

Sun Nov 8, 2015, 10:24 PM

10. Cheney said ...



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Response to brewens (Reply #9)

Sun Nov 8, 2015, 10:35 PM

14. Exactly

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Response to libodem (Reply #14)

Sun Nov 8, 2015, 10:40 PM

16. The hateriots have no bottom. n/t

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Response to brewens (Reply #16)

Sun Nov 8, 2015, 10:44 PM

17. None

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Response to libodem (Original post)

Sun Nov 8, 2015, 10:30 PM

11. George W Bush kept Crisco Johnny Ashcan safe.



Ashcroft Flying High

CBS News
WASHINGTON, July 26, 2001

Fishing rod in hand, Attorney General John Ashcroft left on a weekend trip to Missouri Thursday afternoon aboard a chartered government jet, reports CBS News Correspondent Jim Stewart.

In response to inquiries from CBS News over why Ashcroft was traveling exclusively by leased jet aircraft instead of commercial airlines, the Justice Department cited what it called a "threat assessment" by the FBI, and said Ashcroft has been advised to travel only by private jet for the remainder of his term.

"There was a threat assessment and there are guidelines. He is acting under the guidelines," an FBI spokesman said. Neither the FBI nor the Justice Department, however, would identify what the threat was, when it was detected or who made it.

A senior official at the CIA said he was unaware of specific threats against any Cabinet member, and Ashcroft himself, in a speech in California, seemed unsure of the nature of the threat.

"I don't do threat assessments myself and I rely on those whose responsibility it is in the law enforcement community, particularly the FBI. And I try to stay within the guidelines that they've suggested I should stay within for those purposes," Ashcroft said.

Asked if he knew anything about the threat or who might have made it, the attorney general replied, "Frankly, I don't. That's the answer."

CONTINUED...

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/ashcroft-flying-high/


John Ashcroft was safe in July 2001. The rest of America, not so much.

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Response to Octafish (Reply #11)

Sun Nov 8, 2015, 10:39 PM

15. Nice to keep that POS off comercial airlines

Because there was enough intelligence to warrant Ashcroft flying in government planes for personsl pleasure trips.

They knew.

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Response to libodem (Reply #15)

Mon Nov 9, 2015, 01:33 AM

18. They sure did. Bush warned at Genoa G8 summit in July 2001...

So Bush avoided the hotel - even though it was protected by NATO SAM batteries - and slept aboard a US missile destroyer in the harbor.

Here's the story from July 2001:



Why would Osama bin Laden want to kill Dubya, his former business partner?

By James Hatfield

Editor's note: In light of last week's horrific events and the Bush administration's reaction to them, we are reprising the following from the last column Jim Hatfield wrote for Online Journal prior to his tragic death on July 18:

July 3, 2001—There may be fireworks in Genoa, Italy, this month, too.

A plot by Saudi master terrorist, Osama bin Laden, to assassinate Dubya during the July 20 economic summit of world leaders, was uncovered after dozens of suspected Islamic militants linked to bin Laden's international terror network were arrested in Frankfurt, Germany, and Milan, Italy, in April.

German intelligence services have stated that bin Laden is covertly financing neo-Nazi skinhead groups throughout Europe to launch another terrorist attack at a high-profile American target—his first since the bombing of the USS Cole in Yemen last October.

According to counter-terrorism experts quoted in Germany's largest newspaper, the attack on Dubya might be a James Bond-like aerial strike in the form of remote-controlled airplanes packed with plastic explosives.

Why would Osama bi Laden want to kill, Dubya, his former business partner?

CONTINUED...

http://web.archive.org/web/20060906150015/http://www.onlinejournal.org/Special_Reports/Hatfield-R-091901/hatfield-r-091901.html



James Hatfield died a few days after this was published. A "suicide."

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Response to Octafish (Reply #18)

Mon Nov 9, 2015, 02:35 AM

19. Wow!

Thanks for sharing.

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Response to libodem (Original post)

Mon Nov 9, 2015, 07:50 AM

20. "Dubya kept us safe" only if you ignore

All of the things you mentioned. What I never got was how Republicans were so particularly eager to exploit 9/11 as though it were some "achievement" and profit off of it politically yet totally gloss over the fact that 3000 people died as a result of, at the very least, Bush's lack of concern over the impending attack. And the same people didn't care that, despite the absence of WMD in Iraq, 4000 soldiers died needlessly there as well. If all that wasn't enough, a major US city drowned and his (mis-)Administration's incompetence doomed even more people. He kept us safe?

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Response to Proud Liberal Dem (Reply #20)

Mon Nov 9, 2015, 10:32 AM

21. I know

But if 4 people die in Bengazi it takes how many hearings and and a refusal to stop looking back and finding someone to blame.
With the first 9/11 we were not allowed to ask 'why' or point the finger at who did not keep us safe, or we were considered unpatriotic.

Plus remember how fast Cheney opened the national coffers to hand out a million dollars to each family to stay quiet and not sue the government. Money was no object for them.

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Response to libodem (Reply #21)

Mon Nov 9, 2015, 11:35 AM

22. Their outrage over BENGHAZI!

and zeal to "investigate" it compared with their response 9/11/01 is so dramatic/OTT that it's absurd. Benghazi was a tragedy and should have been looked to as in any situation of the sort (no more than one investigation should have been necessary though, esp. when none of the embassy attacks following 9/11/01 AFAIK even got one) but 2996 more people died on 9/11/01 and many Republicans and the Bush (mis-)administration resisted calls for an investigation until it was politically unpalatable to do so and used the events to ram through their political agenda and silence their critics.

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Response to Proud Liberal Dem (Reply #22)

Mon Nov 9, 2015, 11:52 AM

23. I like this graphic

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Response to libodem (Reply #23)

Mon Nov 9, 2015, 01:28 PM

24. I've seen that before

Pretty much sums it up. I'm glad that Republicans are finally being honest that BENGHAZI! was hyper-inflated to defeat Clinton in 2016 (though I'm sure that they were hopeful that maybe they might have been able to defeat Obama in 2012 with it as well. I still remember that creepy look on Romney's face right after it all happened).

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Response to Proud Liberal Dem (Reply #24)

Mon Nov 9, 2015, 02:00 PM

25. Yep

At the time I felt it was a CIA inspired plot to get Romney in as president. Just cuz. There were a shit ton of them hanging out there, we now find. And the abuse of that story to make political hay, in no way discourages my twisted conspiracy thinking. Yes, I know better.

How come Republican politicians can spend millions of tax payer dollars chasing sand down a rat hole and no one will call them out on it?

I'd like a real hearing on the real cause of the first 9/11, starting with the House of Saud and how much the Bush admin knew in advance.

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Response to libodem (Reply #23)

Mon Nov 9, 2015, 11:07 PM

38. exactly, where was the outrage when Bush was president!

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Response to napkinz (Reply #38)

Tue Nov 10, 2015, 10:46 AM

39. Excellent

Graphic. That says it all!!!!

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Response to libodem (Original post)

Mon Nov 9, 2015, 02:09 PM

26. Some of us had our lives torn apart by W and Cheney lying about WMD and starting that war

And we are not at all confused about who kept us safe and who did not.

Who lied, and who did not.

Who cheered on the lying like Sean Hannity, and who did not.

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Response to randys1 (Reply #26)

Mon Nov 9, 2015, 02:19 PM

27. They used a National Tragedy

As their, "New Pearl Harbor", to prosecute a war of convenience, to beef up Haliburton's bottom line and stock values so Dick Cheney could personally profit from death and destruction.

It sickens me how Cheney and Liz are so proud of being ghouls.

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Response to libodem (Reply #27)

Mon Nov 9, 2015, 02:22 PM

28. And to provide political capital to destroy Social Security and Medicare.

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Response to randys1 (Reply #28)

Mon Nov 9, 2015, 02:29 PM

29. And that too

And what a shitty thing to target because how many motherless and fatherless America kids now depend on SS because Dubya had their parents killed in a quagmire of our created Iraq civil war.

How do they sleep?

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Response to randys1 (Reply #26)

Mon Nov 9, 2015, 08:40 PM

37. war criminals ...


























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Response to libodem (Original post)

Mon Nov 9, 2015, 03:37 PM

31. Let New Orleans flounder. Heck of a job Shrub.

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Response to kairos12 (Reply #31)

Mon Nov 9, 2015, 06:30 PM

35. ...

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Response to libodem (Original post)

Mon Nov 9, 2015, 03:41 PM

32. He sat back and watched while an entire region suffered and perished.







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Response to lpbk2713 (Reply #32)

Mon Nov 9, 2015, 05:26 PM

33. The worst response to a disaster ever

And remember the price of gas at the pump and by the barrel? Talk about crony capitalism.

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Response to libodem (Original post)

Mon Nov 9, 2015, 08:19 PM

36. Bill Maher and Chris Matthews Tear Into Jeb: "How Can He Get Away with Saying Dubya Kept Us Safe?!"









https://www.facebook.com/Bipartisanism/videos/893314344078908 (click to see this video; not yet available on youtube)

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Response to napkinz (Reply #36)

Tue Nov 10, 2015, 11:09 AM

40. Just watched them all!

Excellent. It also reminds me of ENRON. That disaster plundered California and took a dump on it's shareholders. Paved the way as a blueprint for the crash in 2008.

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Response to libodem (Reply #40)

Tue Nov 10, 2015, 12:39 PM

41. Pataki defended Bush in the first video

and a couple of weeks ago went on MSNBC and blamed President Clinton for 9/11.

see the video: http://www.msnbc.com/thomas-roberts/watch/trump-vs.-bush-over-9-11-547322436000

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Response to napkinz (Reply #41)

Tue Nov 10, 2015, 01:06 PM

42. Deflection

At its finest. What snakes they all are. Thank you for posting that video. I'm glad I watched it.

Very informative.

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Response to libodem (Original post)

Tue Nov 10, 2015, 06:49 PM

43. a fine mess!

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Response to napkinz (Reply #43)

Tue Nov 10, 2015, 07:24 PM

44. And I shudder to think

About having Saddam excuted, on public tv, hanging from that rope. What an image. Wonder where he got that gas to gas the Kurds? Probably from Rumsfeld himself in the 90's.

Bush is a dimwit moron savage. He ought to turn himself into the Hague for redemption.

I'm bookmarking this thread for all the great memes. it contains. It's a treasure trove of truth!

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Response to libodem (Original post)

Fri Nov 13, 2015, 01:24 PM

45. thread I think you'll be interested in ...

"An exclusive look at how the Bush administration ignored this warning from the CIA months before 9/11, along with others that were far more detailed than previously revealed."

see http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027339161 (posted by Hissyspit)

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Response to napkinz (Reply #45)

Sat Nov 14, 2015, 03:08 AM

47. .

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