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whereisjustice

(2,941 posts)
Sun Nov 15, 2015, 02:17 PM Nov 2015

Hillary is WRONG! Who gives a shit if Donald Trump's kids go to college free?

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Leveling the playing field would end grade inflation and discrimination. It would keep Trump, Bush and Clinton from buying degrees and having outsized influence over the curriculum of colleges and universities.

Equal access to education is exactly the right thing.

Trump and Clinton and the rich people they represent will ALWAYS be able to afford college, or health care, or an abortion.

That's the problem!

Any proposal that helps the middle class and below, Hillary is there to make sure the best interests of the Wall Street rich are represented.

Jesus, Hillary. We get enough of your bullshit false morality from Republicans.

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Hillary is WRONG! Who gives a shit if Donald Trump's kids go to college free? (Original Post) whereisjustice Nov 2015 OP
It's just an empty attempt at equating Sanders with Trump. No additional thought behind it. arcane1 Nov 2015 #1
you're wrong. she was involved in ny state politics and is aware that relatively wealthy kids La Lioness Priyanka Nov 2015 #21
Hillary is WRONG about almost everything. She is NOT on our side. putitinD Nov 2015 #2
If Trump paid his fair share of taxes his kids should go to college free tularetom Nov 2015 #3
Hillary wants the wage slaves to stay wage slaves Cosmic Kitten Nov 2015 #4
my reason to support Bernie is that Hilary is a 1%-er wordpix Nov 2015 #15
All the Rich kids get a free ride. azmom Nov 2015 #5
It's her way of covering a neoliberal stance Scootaloo Nov 2015 #6
Why didn't you post this in GD-P were it belongs? TexasProgresive Nov 2015 #7
Because this isn't about the primary. It is about education policy and the rich. whereisjustice Nov 2015 #13
I don't care. demmiblue Nov 2015 #8
If rich kids went to public schools, DirkGently Nov 2015 #9
I'm all for free education and I could care less if Baron Trump participates in it. merrily Nov 2015 #10
Thumbs up. K & R shraby Nov 2015 #11
She wants it means tested like welfare and then everyone jwirr Nov 2015 #12
Like Trumps kids go to community college Duckhunter935 Nov 2015 #14
Of course she is wrong. TM99 Nov 2015 #16
Down in El Dorado, Arkansas Murphy Oil set up the El Dorado Promise for all LiberalArkie Nov 2015 #17
OH YEA, Donald Trump, give to the rich. Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #18
They wouldn't anyway NowSam Nov 2015 #19
i care. a lot of wealthy kids do go to SUNY schools and there is no reason for the rest of us La Lioness Priyanka Nov 2015 #20
Locking... one_voice Nov 2015 #22
 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
1. It's just an empty attempt at equating Sanders with Trump. No additional thought behind it.
Sun Nov 15, 2015, 02:20 PM
Nov 2015

And it failed just like it did the first time.

 

La Lioness Priyanka

(53,866 posts)
21. you're wrong. she was involved in ny state politics and is aware that relatively wealthy kids
Sun Nov 15, 2015, 03:19 PM
Nov 2015

do go to public schools. my brothers roommates/suitemates are all wealthy and in a ny state school, why should we pay for them?

putitinD

(1,551 posts)
2. Hillary is WRONG about almost everything. She is NOT on our side.
Sun Nov 15, 2015, 02:21 PM
Nov 2015

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
3. If Trump paid his fair share of taxes his kids should go to college free
Sun Nov 15, 2015, 02:22 PM
Nov 2015

Just like anybody else's kids.

More bogus populism and fake class envy from one of Trumps fellow 1% ers.

She isn't really fooling anybody with this bullshit.

Cosmic Kitten

(3,498 posts)
4. Hillary wants the wage slaves to stay wage slaves
Sun Nov 15, 2015, 02:23 PM
Nov 2015

She's against a LIVING WAGE,
and free pubic education.

Class warfare is class warfare.
And the 1% is winning....
thanks Hillary!

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
15. my reason to support Bernie is that Hilary is a 1%-er
Sun Nov 15, 2015, 02:41 PM
Nov 2015

It's very hard to carry the banner against 1% excesses, failure to hold Wall St. banksters accountable and buying of politicians when you're a 1%er yourself.

azmom

(5,208 posts)
5. All the Rich kids get a free ride.
Sun Nov 15, 2015, 02:24 PM
Nov 2015

The kids themselves don't have to worry about anything at all. Their mummy's and daddy's pick up the tab for them.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
6. It's her way of covering a neoliberal stance
Sun Nov 15, 2015, 02:27 PM
Nov 2015

It's no different than her opposition to Glass-Steagal or single-payer healthcare. She opposes these ideas, but that sounds bad when talking to democrats, so she tries to couch it in faux-progressive demagoguery.

TexasProgresive

(12,157 posts)
7. Why didn't you post this in GD-P were it belongs?
Sun Nov 15, 2015, 02:29 PM
Nov 2015

whereisjustice

(2,941 posts)
13. Because this isn't about the primary. It is about education policy and the rich.
Sun Nov 15, 2015, 02:37 PM
Nov 2015

Just because Hillary is mentioned as being wrong, and she is, doesn't mean it should be quarantined.

demmiblue

(36,846 posts)
8. I don't care.
Sun Nov 15, 2015, 02:29 PM
Nov 2015

Just as I don't care if someone who has chronic/severe medical needs utilizes 100x more healthcare dollars than I ever would in my lifetime. I still support a single payer system.

DirkGently

(12,151 posts)
9. If rich kids went to public schools,
Sun Nov 15, 2015, 02:30 PM
Nov 2015

which of course they generally don't, and probably would not even if they were free, public schools and public education would fare much better in the American political system. Suddenly public schools would be a huge priority, instead of a target for abuse, which would be GOOD thing.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
10. I'm all for free education and I could care less if Baron Trump participates in it.
Sun Nov 15, 2015, 02:32 PM
Nov 2015

For starters, the rich already have access to free K through 12 for their children, if they want it.

Universal free education has always been a point of pride in this nation , not something we stingyed on. And most of them go to private schools anyway. Can anyone tell me why 13 years of free education for Baron Trump, if his father would "lower himself" to that, is perfectly fine and doesn't ever get mentioned, but 2-4 years of higher education is not? A college degree today is as necessary as a high school diploma was 100 years ago. And much more than in 1635, when the first public school opened in Boston (made compulsory in 1642).

Sanders will be taxing the rich more. So, the money will not be coming from "the rest of us" but from all of us, just as everything paid for with taxes comes from all of us. The real problem is that too many of the rich and too many corporations do not pay their fair share of taxes, not that Baron Trump may opt for free public college.

Finally, Baron Trump is going to an Ivy League, as did Hillary and Bill (Stanford for Chelsea), not to SUNY.

shraby

(21,946 posts)
11. Thumbs up. K & R
Sun Nov 15, 2015, 02:33 PM
Nov 2015

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
12. She wants it means tested like welfare and then everyone
Sun Nov 15, 2015, 02:34 PM
Nov 2015

can bitch about it. It is for public colleges - most of the rich will never send their kids to a public school in the first place so we will not be paying for them.

 

Duckhunter935

(16,974 posts)
14. Like Trumps kids go to community college
Sun Nov 15, 2015, 02:38 PM
Nov 2015

Another lie put out by Hillary, she knows better and she is better than that.

 

TM99

(8,352 posts)
16. Of course she is wrong.
Sun Nov 15, 2015, 02:48 PM
Nov 2015

K-12 is free for all - rich and poor.

College should be the same.

I don't care if Trump's kids go to public college for free any more than I will care when Clinton's grandchildren get the exact same opportunity.

Means tested neoliberal bullshit is all this is.

LiberalArkie

(15,715 posts)
17. Down in El Dorado, Arkansas Murphy Oil set up the El Dorado Promise for all
Sun Nov 15, 2015, 02:51 PM
Nov 2015

graduates of El Dorado Public Schools. Murphy Oil will pay the tuition of any graduate at the current rate of in state tuition. If you go to Harvard or Yale, they will pay the Arkansas in-state rate. I do not know what it is per semester but lets say "$3000. I would imagine Bernies plan would be close to the same. Just like Medicare is. The government will pay the standard rate for your state, if that isn't enough for Yale, well you will have to come up with the rest. But if you can go to an instate school for 2 or 4 years and then move to a big school, well you have saved a lot of money.

In January 2007, Murphy announced that it would set aside $50 million to ensure that every student graduating from the local school system, in El Dorado, would be able to afford college. The scholarship, which requires that students spend a certain number of years in the El Dorado school system and maintain a 2.0 G.P.A. while in college, pays tuition and all mandatory fees for students, up to the highest annual rate currently charged by an Arkansas public university. Scholarship amounts are paid based on length of attendance in the El Dorado Public School District. For example, graduates who attend all 13 years at EPS will receive 100 percent of the scholarship.[3]

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
18. OH YEA, Donald Trump, give to the rich.
Sun Nov 15, 2015, 02:52 PM
Nov 2015

NowSam

(1,252 posts)
19. They wouldn't anyway
Sun Nov 15, 2015, 03:10 PM
Nov 2015

There who always be private institutions that cater to the ultra wealthy. That 1% will pay big bucks so they don't have to sit in coach with the test of us. So her argument is not even real and everyone knows it.

 

La Lioness Priyanka

(53,866 posts)
20. i care. a lot of wealthy kids do go to SUNY schools and there is no reason for the rest of us
Sun Nov 15, 2015, 03:17 PM
Nov 2015

to pay for them. the idea that rich kids don't go to state schools is pretty absurd, not all rich kids have the grades to go to private school. My brother has 7 suite-mates and several of their parents are incredibly well off. maybe not trump well off, but $1 million dollar annual income well off.

one_voice

(20,043 posts)
22. Locking...
Sun Nov 15, 2015, 03:23 PM
Nov 2015

please re-post in GDP. Thanks.

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