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Ferd Berfel

(3,687 posts)
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 03:37 PM Nov 2015

CNN reporter hammers Ted Cruz on Syrian crisis: Should your refugee dad have been kept out of US?

http://www.rawstory.com/2015/11/cnn-reporter-hammers-ted-cruz-on-syrian-crisis-should-your-refugee-dad-have-been-kept-out-of-us/

CNN reporter hammered Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) on his hysteria-stoking claims about Syrian refugees by repeatedly asking the Republican presidential candidate about his own father — who sought political asylum in the United States.

Cruz boasted that President Barack Obama had attacked him personally from overseas by criticizing the senator’s call to limit immigrant settlement to Christians only, saying the terrorist attacks in Paris showed why the religious test was necessary.

“What would have happened if your father, who was trying to get from Cuba to the United States, and the political leaders said, ‘Nope, we don’t think so, because who knows? Maybe you could be somebody who could, you know, commit crimes against Americans,'” said CNN’s Dana Bash.

Cruz said the situations weren’t at all comparable.
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CNN reporter hammers Ted Cruz on Syrian crisis: Should your refugee dad have been kept out of US? (Original Post) Ferd Berfel Nov 2015 OP
From the article, I think we should post this a few thousand times between now and the randys1 Nov 2015 #1
Anyone who remembers the 1980 Cuban Mariel Boatlift knows the dangers of unrestricted immigration… Journeyman Nov 2015 #2
And we all know how that worked out... Lochloosa Nov 2015 #5
C'mon. We all know that's a picture of a good guy open carry Texan at the mall. nt valerief Nov 2015 #7
dear mr cruz, i'm sure the President included jeb? in his 'attack' about religious tests... spanone Nov 2015 #3
"situations weren’t at all comparable" left-of-center2012 Nov 2015 #4
The hypocrite's only defense. Octafish Nov 2015 #14
Gracious Me, Who Was Feeding Ms. Bash Red Meat? Vogon_Glory Nov 2015 #6
Cruz's answer will play well in certain circles MosheFeingold Nov 2015 #8
Jesus Christ, Cuba was the epitome of violent revolution back in the 50's. randome Nov 2015 #9
And "communists" PatSeg Nov 2015 #15
Except they were completely comparable. sinkingfeeling Nov 2015 #10
Guess she really Bashed him KamaAina Nov 2015 #11
K & R SunSeeker Nov 2015 #12
Weren't Cubans the first hijackers? Marthe48 Nov 2015 #13
Oh yes PatSeg Nov 2015 #16
I remember them too Marthe48 Nov 2015 #17
This is why PatSeg Nov 2015 #18
I agree Marthe48 Nov 2015 #19
That is very interesting PatSeg Nov 2015 #21
The teachers do the best they can Marthe48 Nov 2015 #22
I can't even imagine PatSeg Nov 2015 #23
Cruz and family were not refugees. roody Nov 2015 #20

randys1

(16,286 posts)
1. From the article, I think we should post this a few thousand times between now and the
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 03:42 PM
Nov 2015

election


Rafael Cruz, who came to the U.S. from Cuba more than 55 years ago, is a religious extremist who believes that his son is among Christian kings “anointed” by God to help usher in the Second Coming of Christ — and with that, the apocalypse.

Journeyman

(15,031 posts)
2. Anyone who remembers the 1980 Cuban Mariel Boatlift knows the dangers of unrestricted immigration…
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 03:59 PM
Nov 2015

In addition to nutcase criminals like Rafael Cruz, less savory criminals and mental health patients can slip through as well.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mariel_boatlift

spanone

(135,831 posts)
3. dear mr cruz, i'm sure the President included jeb? in his 'attack' about religious tests...
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 04:02 PM
Nov 2015

learn to share, teddy boy

Vogon_Glory

(9,117 posts)
6. Gracious Me, Who Was Feeding Ms. Bash Red Meat?
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 04:32 PM
Nov 2015

Her questioning was far from the timidity and softball questioning we have all come to know and loathe from the American lame-stream corporate news media.

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Different how? Fidel Castro was far less cruel and vicious than ISIL.

MosheFeingold

(3,051 posts)
8. Cruz's answer will play well in certain circles
Wed Nov 18, 2015, 12:24 PM
Nov 2015

FTA:

"“See, that’s why it’s important to define what it is we’re fighting,” Cruz said. “If my father were part of a theocratic and political movement like radical Islamism that promotes murdering anyone who doesn’t share your extreme faith or forcibly converting them, then it would have made perfect sense,” Cruz said."

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
9. Jesus Christ, Cuba was the epitome of violent revolution back in the 50's.
Wed Nov 18, 2015, 12:27 PM
Nov 2015

C'mon, Cruz, think it over. (Not likely, is it?)
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Don't ever underestimate the long-term effects of a good night's sleep.[/center][/font][hr]

PatSeg

(47,427 posts)
15. And "communists"
Thu Nov 19, 2015, 01:08 PM
Nov 2015

were the "Muslims" of that time. The fear tactics have pretty much stayed the same, just the names have changed. You could take a republican political speech from the 50s or 60s and change a few words and it would sound like a speech that anyone of these clowns would give.

PatSeg

(47,427 posts)
16. Oh yes
Thu Nov 19, 2015, 01:10 PM
Nov 2015

they were!!! I remember all those hijacking from the early 60s. I even worked with a man who was on one of the planes that was taken to Cuba.

PatSeg

(47,427 posts)
18. This is why
Thu Nov 19, 2015, 10:20 PM
Nov 2015

it is so important for all people to learn history from a very young age. Fortunately for me, it was my favorite subject. Unfortunately, so many people I know are rather clueless.

Marthe48

(16,950 posts)
19. I agree
Thu Nov 19, 2015, 10:52 PM
Nov 2015

We had an exchange student from Costa Rica in 1995. The American history teacher told her class that they always ran out of time, so he was going to start at the present and go backward in time, so the students would cover recent history first. Which the students wanted. A few years later, we hosted a boy from Spain, who also took American history. He pointed out that in his history class at home, the Spanish were the heroes. And this year, I am a liaison for another exchange student and her history class is going to go backward and the kids really like doing it that way.
I helped the student we hosted, and seeing American history 'against the flow' really made some major themes stand out. And learning that whoever writes the history books can influence the view was an eye-opener too

PatSeg

(47,427 posts)
21. That is very interesting
Fri Nov 20, 2015, 03:18 PM
Nov 2015

Because I was fascinated with history, I learned a lot on my own, but even then it was biased. Today young people have access to so much information, but sadly many are still embarrassingly ignorant. The missing element seems to be a love of learning. I think our educational system is really failing our kids.

Marthe48

(16,950 posts)
22. The teachers do the best they can
Sun Nov 22, 2015, 12:25 PM
Nov 2015

There is so much paperwork, way less money, teaching to the tests. Maybe the reason that there seems to be less interest in learning is that people don't think it has value unless they pay for a degree. And the prospect of getting that degree is more challenging now than before. We just have to keep opening windows and hope that we spark interest.

PatSeg

(47,427 posts)
23. I can't even imagine
Sun Nov 22, 2015, 12:51 PM
Nov 2015

what it is like for teachers today, especially with "teaching to the tests". It must be so frustrating. When I was young, I was told that the most important thing education can provide is to teach one to think. That appears to be on the bottom of the priorities list these days. I'm so glad my children are grown, though I worry about my grandchildren.

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