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Tue Nov 17, 2015, 04:44 PM

"Top 10 Reasons Governors are Wrong to Exclude Syrian Refugees"

"Top 10 Reasons Governors are Wrong to Exclude Syrian Refugees"
By Juan Cole

http://www.juancole.com/2015/11/reasons-governors-refugees.html

Here are three of the reasons he gives:

1. The attackers in Paris were European nationals. The Syrian passport found near one of them was a fake. So are the governors opposed to Belgian immigration into the United States?

2. The attackers were not refugees. They were born in Europe. Refugees are poor and lacking in knowledge or resources about their new environment. The attackers knew exactly where everything was that they wanted to assault and were hooked in with arms smugglers and other hard-to-discover criminal networks.


4.These refugees undergo at least 18 months of background checks, contrary to what Sen. Mario Rubio (whose parents were Cuban immigrants to the US) has alleged.


But the whole article is a worthwhile read. Loaded with facts and common sense from an expert on the Middle East.

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Koinos Nov 2015 OP
Xipe Totec Nov 2015 #1
Koinos Nov 2015 #2
valerief Nov 2015 #3
Koinos Nov 2015 #4
valerief Nov 2015 #6
npk Nov 2015 #5
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ryan_cats Nov 2015 #8
Koinos Nov 2015 #9
uppityperson Nov 2015 #11
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Response to Koinos (Original post)

Tue Nov 17, 2015, 04:46 PM

1. #1 - They don't have the authority. nt

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Response to Xipe Totec (Reply #1)

Tue Nov 17, 2015, 04:55 PM

2. Juan Cole says that in his first paragraph.

Some half of US governors have announced their opposition to their states taking in Syrian refugees after the Paris attacks. Although they can bother refugees, they canít actually dictate to people who are here legally where they can live. But anyway, here are the reasons for which these announcements are a form of political hysteria and not grounded in any rational policy considerations:


Wish I could paste the whole article.

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Response to Koinos (Original post)

Tue Nov 17, 2015, 05:00 PM

3. Hey, the Saudis funded 9-11 and the U.S. decimated Iraq. Same reasoning. nt

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Response to valerief (Reply #3)

Tue Nov 17, 2015, 05:09 PM

4. Yep, the perpetrators were European nationals and weren't Syrian refugees.

So we punish Syrian refugees.

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Response to Koinos (Reply #4)

Tue Nov 17, 2015, 05:14 PM

6. That's how the U.S. rolls apparently. Gotta beef up the enemy to

pound those war profiteering drums louder.

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Response to Koinos (Original post)

Tue Nov 17, 2015, 05:13 PM

5. The GOP is once again using fear tactics to gain a political edge

They are playing to the darkest fears and stupidity of their political base. I think they are hedging their bests that there will be further ISIS attacks between now and the GE next year. They are probably thinking that these attacks will take place in countries where Syrian refugees are being placed and that once again they will use the "refugees" as pawns in their game to try and take back the white house. What is alarming is that many states in this country, that are not typically GOP/Conservative states, are falling for this shit too.

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Response to npk (Reply #5)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 09:26 AM

7. Yep, I remember all the fear-mongering "code red" terrorist alarms before Bush's reelection.

The corporate advertising industry in this country has trained the sheeple to buy any thing or idea.

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Response to Koinos (Original post)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 09:29 AM

8. ?

4.These refugees undergo at least 18 months of background checks, contrary to what Sen. Mario Rubio (whose parents were Cuban immigrants to the US) has alleged.

We won't get any refugees for at least 18 months then?

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Response to ryan_cats (Reply #8)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 07:03 PM

9. Yep, that's how it works.

It could even take longer than that.

A good description of how the process works (as posted by an immigration lawyer in Facebook:
https://www.facebook.com/BryanScottHicks/posts/1187326084630475?fref=nf

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Response to ryan_cats (Reply #8)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 07:10 PM

11. The ones starting now won't get in for at least 18 months, more like 2 yrs

And even then, there is only a percentage that make it. Some started the process already and are arriving but yes. If you wanted to start now, it'd be a while.

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Response to Koinos (Original post)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 07:09 PM

10. k&r

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