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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsDo you support or oppose the H.R. 4038 American SAFE Act against refugees?
H.R. 4038 is known as the American Security Against Foreign Enemies Act of 2015 or as the American SAFE Act of 2015 . The mandate is To require that s supplemental certifications and background investigation be completed prior to the admission of certain aliens as refugees, and for other purposes.
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I support the bill as we need more "supplemental certifications and background investigation" of these refugees | |
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I oppose the bill as these refugees are already screened enough | |
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bigwillq
(72,790 posts)It can't hurt to have strict (er) policies. I'd rather be safe than sorry.
Logical
(22,457 posts)sarisataka
(21,264 posts)As too many laws to a free society
LostOne4Ever
(9,603 posts)melm00se
(5,075 posts)but the text of the House Bill sounds (to me at least) that the FBI would be tasked with oversight to ensure that background checks are performed:
Additionally, Congress is acting in its oversight capacity by tasking that
I have no issue with the law, in and of itself, but I will have an issue if the law is abused in its implementation.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)and have nothing to do with the odorous parts of this bill. Once we determine how many we will accept, under current law, those individuals wouldn't step foot on US soil for well over a year while check after check are done. This has nothing to do with additional checks. The legislation has to do with stopping them from coming here. FBI checks are done on every single refugee before they come here. As does a CIA check, a written report from their country of origin with additional checks, along with checks from other US and non-us agencies. That is already being done. The republicans are spinning it so people think this isn't the current reality. It is.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)(b) Certification by unanimous concurrence.A covered alien may only be admitted to the United States after the Secretary of Homeland Security, with the unanimous concurrence of the Director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation and the Director of National Intelligence, certifies to the appropriate Congressional Committees that the covered alien is not a threat to the security of the United States.
(c) Inspector general review of certifications.The Inspector General of the Department of Homeland Security shall conduct a risk-based review of all certifications made under subsection (b) each year and shall provide an annual report detailing the findings to the appropriate Congressional Committees.
951-Riverside
(7,234 posts)Would we subject African-American police officers to 'extra' screening because of Chris Dorner?
Absolutely not.
So, why are some so-called progressives okay with subjecting thousands of people to screenings just because of their ethnicity and religion?
I say let them all in, we already have terrorists within our country killing people everyday and they're called Gang members most of whom are of the Christian or Catholic faiths.
I honestly don't get why people get so freaked out when Muslims commits violent crimes, its as if 11,700 people haven't died this year so far due to gun violence in our own country (That's 36 people a day BTW).
B2G
(9,766 posts)"we already have terrorists within our country killing people everyday and they're called Gang members most of whom are of the Christian or Catholic faiths."
951-Riverside
(7,234 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Logical
(22,457 posts)ileus
(15,396 posts)After the local government offices have been destroyed and everyone scattered who/what info can actually be gathered besides a persons word for who they are?
Did they even have records in the first place?
Logical
(22,457 posts)Move on.
Bradical79
(4,490 posts)It's my understanding that we already have strong screening and it's already a multiyear process. It doesn't make much sense for a terrorist to enter the U.S. through this method. The bill is made to play on racist fears.
Logical
(22,457 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)it asks three cabinet-level officials to personally certify that there is zero risk from EVERY SINGLE REFUGEE.
Logical
(22,457 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)and will follow the loud and dumb party down the xenophobic path.