Listen well DUers - Planned Parenthood was the focal point of this attack

[malaise]

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That's from local Colorado station KOAA on GEM$NBComcast. This is HUGE and an attack on a national institution. Thank you ReTHUGs Fundies and RW Radio. This time you also shot cops so you fucking fucks will get what's coming...fucking radical RW Christian terrorists.

Oh fuck you!!!

[saltpoint]

1. It may be that the shooter

intended to attack the Planned Parenthood facility.

It may be that (he) didn't.

What source did KOAA have to confirm intent?

[shenmue]

34. Because he shot people and there was a Planned Parenthood?

Did you put two and two together and get three?

[saltpoint]

35. The facts will be available shortly

now that the suspect is in police custody.

Everything prior to the cops' interview with the suspect was speculation.

[etherealtruth]

2. Home grown terrorists ... with easy access to firearms

[riversedge]

5. A gun around every corner...

damn!

[malaise]

8. He had a fugging AK47

Expect casualties other than the cops who were shot

[Rex]

3. There will be someone that justifies this in their sick little mind.

The GOP has destroyed this country to the point of armed, mentally unstable, CTers running around doing "God's work". No...you are doing the GOPs work for them.

The scary thing is this is not the first time nor will it be the last. And now they shot a cop, you know malaise...to save lives.

Frankly I think America is becoming unhinged and The Donald is a perfect example of it. So is Ted Cruz and Ben Carson, neither man responsible enough to hold onto an ice cream cone.

WorldNutDaily will be loving this...so will Pat on the 700 Club, their minds are diseased with righteous fury.

[Nevernose]

42. It's ironic the the RWNJs see all police as glorious heroes

Yet can't wait to kill cops in service to their various right wing causes (I'm thinking specifically about the Cliven Bundy supporters who murdered random cops in Las Vegas, and those guys from TN that wanted to kidnap police and "put them on trial" (might have been some other state, now that I think about it).

[jwirr]

62. There is never a justification for anything like this no matter

what the motive.

[riversedge]

4. PP is getting nasty vile tweets....

PP sent out this response and so many are just calling them vile names. etc. You can go yourself to see if you want.


Planned Parenthood Verified account
?@PPact

We’re monitoring the situation at the #ColoradoSprings PP health center. Right now our concern is for the safety of patients, staff & police

[riversedge]

6. Cnn reporting via TV eight people injured. Stretchers observed but they do not seem

to know if the shooter is still active??

[Downwinder]

7. Past time to be making arrests for material support to terrorists.

[Turn CO Blue]

9. We don't know that - some locals saying this started at the bank. We just don't know.

I've seen a couple of people commenting on the local news and on my FB feed that this started at the bank,
then the guy ran outside shooting at passing cars, then ran to PP.

That could all be bull p maybe he did target the PP clinic - but my point is that we just don't know what we don't know yet.

Could be a bank robbery gone bad, could be he started at PP because ex GF works there, could be he is a radical Christianist terrorist bent on hurting people at a PP.

Still five people in the building according to the police scanner.

[malaise]

11. Confirmed- this started in the Planned Parenthood Building

from the Press COnference.

My reading is that there are casualties other than those in hospital

[Turn CO Blue]

30. One of the people shot early was inside Elite Vision which is several doors/units west

Anyway, he just surrendered.

So we will know very soon. Police clearing bldg now.

I'm sure it will turn out that he is RWNJ terrorist, as our guts tell us (esp since he set up propane tanks to shoot at in the lot, apparently). It just seems like a lot of speculation early on, before hostages out.

[shenmue]

38. It started in the Planned Parenthood, not the bank.

Check the news again, and posts down thread.

It was at the clinic.

[AngryAmish]

10. The Teabaggers did this shit.

They should be arrested.

[TheBlackAdder]

65. The same people who bitch when school taxes go up, yet they want more births to hit their taxes!

.


This is a really weird split in mentality.

These Libertarian types bitch about paying taxes, yet they want additional births to hit their local, state, and federal taxes--to the tune of $18-20K per kid per year. Wealthier families will find a way to get abortions, leaving the people who are more prone to rely on WIC, SNAP, daycare, medicaid, food stamps, school lunches, etc.. The poorer households will be affected more income and job wise, casting them in a lower financial stratus that is difficult to rise from.

The white supremacists bitch about too many 'others,' yet the poor will feel the brunt more, and since there is rampant discrimination in this country, the minorities will suffer from abortion service cuts--leading to more non-whites being born. These guys are really stupid.


There needs to be a Libertarian discussion on the economics of having thousands of extra unplanned births hitting a state's budgets. Each birth will result in over $300K of additional taxes. Rick Perry found this out when he cut abortion services and there were 7K more births, causing over $120M in additional taxes and expenses each year, for 18 years, until the kids are emancipated. And that will be for only one birth year. If you have that same rate or more each and every year, it will pyramid into the billions by the time all grade levels in school are filled with those addional kids.


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[mcar]

12. They have blood on their hands, malaise

[malaise]

13. The shit will hit the fan when we hear

casualties - not just injured gunshot victims - but persons killed at the PP building

[mcar]

17. The RW will twist themselves into pretzels

to absolve themselves of any responsibility. Let's hope the media doesn't aid and abet them.

[malaise]

18. Propane tanks

looks like he may actually have a bomb - this is fucking scary

[mcar]

20. And they can't say how many are still inside with him

Terrifying.

[malaise]

21. And there are many casualties

[ellenrr]

39. but there will never be the outrage at this as there is when a gunman is not white or is

muslim.

[malaise]

43. Yep

He sure is lucky to have walked out alive - that's amazing.

It's up to pro PP folks to make this a huge issue.

I have to say those cops had really nasty weather to deal with this afternoon.

[ellenrr]

53. I don't think it is luck that got him out alive-- I think it is skin color.. nt

[malaise]

64. Not sure

They may have been really worried that he was wearing an explosive device.
They worried about propane tanks

[ellenrr]

67. oh yeah.. true....nt

[Kingofalldems]

14. My guess is a guy robbing a bank does not bring an AK-47.

Plus another weapon maybe. Nope.

[malaise]

15. He took other stuff to the PP building

several bags according to the police Rep speaking right now on GEM$NBComcast

[Rex]

16. Your suspicions have been confirmed, per the news channels.

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Sad that it has come to this in America.

[spanone]

19. K&R...

[herding cats]

22. CSPD Lt. Catherine Buckley confirms that the shooting did start at the Planned Parenthood

UPDATE 4:06 p.m.: CSPD Lt. Catherine Buckley confirms that the shooting did start at the Planned Parenthood on Centennial Boulevard. There had earlier been conflicting reports that the shooting may have started in a different area near the building.

Some victims reportedly left Planned Parenthood and went to a nearby bank.

Buckley told reporters that there is only one gunman, and does not know his identity. She confirmed the shooter remains holed up in the building that houses Planned Parenthood, and that he has been shooting at officers for the last couple of hours.

Four officers are confirmed injured; Buckley said it's unconfirmed if a fifth was also hurt. There is no word on their conditions, and Buckley could not confirm if there were any fatalities. Several civilians were also injured.

http://www.kktv.com/home/headlines/Active-Shooter-Situation-At-Planned-Parenthood-356013081.html

Just so everyone knows the police confirm what you're saying, malaise.

[malaise]

23. Some folks hate the truth

Remember even now there are people who argue that those little children at Sandy Hook did not die - it was made up

[herding cats]

24. Denial runs deep in some people.

If it bodes ill for their beliefs they make up any manner of insane story to try and avoid facing a difficult reality. Sandy Hook deniers are a perfect example of that type.

[annabanana]

25. Colorado Springs is a RW hotbed..

Focus on the Family is very active there. The Air Force, with it's aggressive proselytizing, has it's academy there..

There is very little chance that this isn't classic domestic terrorism.

[malaise]

28. I'm trying to figure out how many magazines he has for that

AK47 - he is still shooting

[HereSince1628]

26. Nominally christian, if even that. I haven't seen much evidence of his christian behavior

What I see is a guy who attacked a clinic and who reportedly took long distance pot-shots at other retail businesses to draw police into his kill zone.

There have been a handful of these type of attacks in the past decade, this once again shows other violent deviants how it's done.

Let's hope it's not a harbinger of a season to come.

[malaise]

29. But all the 'deviants' attacking clinics

claimed religious reasons - they were supposedly pro-life

[HereSince1628]

36. It's not certain, yet, who this guy is, let alone his motivations...

Whatever summaries, ranges, and central tendencies can be developed from other attacks, we don't yet know how this shooter fits into models developed from descriptions of others.

The social media posts identifying a shooter, which may have -nothing- to do with the actual shooter, suggest the shooter is simply trying to enforce -conservative- ideals, not christian ideals.

[atreides1]

40. That's the problem!

They have a different definition of "Christian behavior", much like that of the Crusaders of old...they believed that killing the followers of Islam was acceptable behavior for a "Christian"...why would you expect it to change?

Your definition of Christian behavior is probably diametrically opposed to that of people like Tony Perkins, Ted Cruz, and the rest of the radical religious right!

[malaise]

44. +1,000 n/t

[RKP5637]

27. This country has more to fear from jerks like this, than "them" over there. n /t

[juxtaposed]

31. shooter is walking out, maybe?

[juxtaposed]

32. shooter detained

[malaise]

33. Great news

Not killed to boot

[HereSince1628]

37. So, not the typical mass-shooting suicide.

We'll get to know him soon.

[juxtaposed]

41. I'd rather have him live so we can see what makes him tick.

where he got his beliefs, his contacts, his support, and any other shit he may have.

[HereSince1628]

54. Yep, investigators will get to know him and what motivated him.

We don't always get that chance

[juxtaposed]

56. what he could say could indite operation rescue

[HereSince1628]

68. I'm sure that federal investigators will be looking for connections...

[Hekate]

45. America, these are your terrorists. They live among you, they have crossed no borders to be here.

As our president becomes more likely to tell it like it is in his last year in office, how I would love to hear him say those words.

[malaise]

46. I almost can't wait for the ReTHUG candidates response

Why can't they speak about casualties - that's troubling.

[Hekate]

49. The only casualties that matter are the all-holy zygotes that they fantasize as Gerber babies

From the most radical of the candidates I expect some form of victim-blaming, along the lines of how emotionally distraught the shooter had become over abortion, and while of course he was not justified in his actions, fill in the blanks; and how brave the cops were (I agree with this part) in trying to save all those people.

I'm am so sick of American terrorists.

[malaise]

51. I'm am so sick of American terrorists

and their enablers.

I'm no fan of cops but these guys did a good job in awful weather.

[fbc]

48. Right wing terrorists hate us for our freedom

[malaise]

50. The only freedom they understand is

freedumb over at Free ReTHUGlic

[ellenrr]

52. tweet from PP:

Attack caused by "poisonous environment that feeds domestic terrorism"

http://on.ktla.com/1xXMy #ColoradoSprings



TRUE!!

another tweet:
"Yet another act of terror NOT committed by a Syrian refugee..."

[wolfie001]

55. Exactly!!!

These nutbags are bloodthirsty! More reason to win the Presidency next year!!!

[ellenrr]

58. did you forget? we won the presidency 3 years ago and

4 years before that--
but abortion has pretty much been eliminated in about 90% of the country...

so I wouldn't put my hope in the president.

[wolfie001]

74. It's the Supremes, Remember? nt

[lastlib]

57. Now is not the time to talk about gun violence...

. .

[malaise]

60. LOL

They'll tie themselves into knots between now and Monday

[riversedge]

59. Here are just a few of conservatives cheering for the #PlannedParenthood shooter ...

TWEET
Sheila Retweeted
Dean Obeidallah ?@Deanofcomedy 15m15 minutes ago

Here are just a few of conservatives cheering for the #PlannedParenthood shooter

[riversedge]

61. Please RT if you're waiting for Republican govs to ban white Christian males from their states ...

Sheila Retweeted
David Samples ?@NatureGuy101 25m25 minutes ago

Please RT if you're waiting for Republican govs to ban white Christian males from their states #PlannedParenthood

[ellenrr]

63. CNN: "It could be someone who wanted attention."

jeez.


right... nothing to do with the wholesale attacks on Planned Parenthood and on reproductive rights...

[bettyellen]

71. On MSNBC someone said that and was corrected that no- this target was not random....

thank god.

[LiberalElite]

66. CNN's expert of some sort (sorry i didn't get more info) just said

defined terroism and said this incident was probably "bordering" on terrorism.

[Rex]

69. Refreshing to see someone here use their critical thinking skills to arrive at a conclusion

that turned out to be correct. SO much better than the mindless drones waiting to be told how/what to think. Thanks for showing how it is done!

Seems a lost art in America.

[bettyellen]

70. no details on the "loss of life" yet?

[malaise]

72. Two dead (from CNN)

AG says tragic loss of life which suggests even more

PP not aware of staff killed - contracting everyone to verify.

[bettyellen]

73. I'm watching the same thing.