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Dinosaurs were just really big lizards that lived over 1000 years and lived at the same time as Adam and Eve.... which was about 6000 years ago.
But after the flood and Noah saved all the animals he had to take small lizards in order to save space on the ark. Since everything stopped living 1000 yrs plus after the flood then the lizards didn't get as big anymore.
My brother's wife actually believes this. I can't decide if I think my brother should have her committed for insanity or if we should all just protect the poor little moron from herself.
saltpoint
(50,986 posts)on the ark, you can't have lizards that are you know, huge.
They'd have to be modest-to-small lizards to fit them onto an already crowded boat.
Noah could have rounded up the huge lizards and placed them atop a high mountain somewhere, well above the level where the flood could wipe them out.
Then it would be huge lizards and The Yeti at those higher altitudes.
KentuckyWoman
(6,688 posts)hmmmm.
TheBlackAdder
(28,209 posts).
Whatever you do, don't tell them that The Great Flood was disproven.
How? Because every biblical scholar points to a time when it supposedly occurred, a time span when there were three active dynasties in existence: China, Egypt, and India.
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Then, that would mean that not only are we the incestuous offspring of Adam and Eve, but we then became the incestuous offspring of Noah's family. Adam that right there would reset evangelical's ability to prove the progression of the population, since Adam & Eve, because the population growth would have been reset if the population restarted again with Noah's family, thousands of years later.
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saltpoint
(50,986 posts)out there.
Many U.S. Americans believe that any narrative involving a boat would include a mishap with an iceberg or maybe romantic flirtation like they saw on Love Boat on tv.
I'm not sure they can quite offer convincing logistics for all those animals on a wooden craft. I'm definitely sure I can't. I hope no one asks me.
bvf
(6,604 posts)so forgive me for asking, but do they have kids?
KentuckyWoman
(6,688 posts)Daughter has kids and has no particular religious beliefs that i can tell. She made a point of telling me she no longer does Christmas.
From I can tell does a better job at single parenthood than her parents give her credit for. She's of at least average intelligence.
bvf
(6,604 posts)there's an upside to it, under the circumstances.
(I've got similar issues in my family, FWIW.)
KentuckyWoman
(6,688 posts)When my brother's wife revealed herself as an Obama "birther" I just sort of shook my head and gave up trying to explain American citizenship is valid if either parent is a citizen, doesn't matter where you are born. At some point I realized she won't get it and will always believe evil Obama is a Kenyan.
But this just sort of shocked me. And quite frankly embarrassed me for her. I think even my brother was a bit surprised....
bvf
(6,604 posts)is married to a guy who, by all appearances, is a pillar of the community. They're pretty well-to-do and have two boys in college.
I haven't been able to stand the sight of the bastard since I heard him refer to some of his one son's (then high school) classmates as "band fags." More recently, he actually made some sort of sick comment (I've blocked it from memory) about Tamir Rice, who was shot not six blocks from where I grew up.
My sister-in-law just rolls her eyes at this. Like I said, I love her deeply, but sometimes I just want to scream at her for bearing his kids.
Family, eh?
gvstn
(2,805 posts)At aged 70 and very well educated and a smart man, used to make fag jokes all the time like a middle schooler until I called him out on it.
He then stopped doing it. It wasn't funny and he knew better but for some reason he had done it for all his years. He knew perfectly well that some people were gay but went with the crappy jokes.
He didn't really have any animosity toward gay people but thought it was a good joke. Sometimes you just have to call people out on their insensitivity.
bvf
(6,604 posts)I admire your resolve in that, and am glad to hear he changed his tune, having really known better all along.
I think my SIL's husband (at 50) is a lost cause. He's a pretty hard-headed type who grew up pretty right-wing. The one saving grace is that he works in sales, and likely doesn't behave that way with clients and prospects, but I shudder to imagine his conversations with "the boys" at the club.
He's a Fox News type generally, and thankfully the subject of politics never comes up when I and/or my daughter (or my father-in-law) are around. I'd bet anything he's a Trump guy (or whoever Fox is pushing).
gvstn
(2,805 posts)That was what made it sound so awful. I think it must of been his group of friends that all thought is was funny to ferret out gay people because of their mannerisms. I just couldn't cotton to it and said I couldn't believe a guy as smart as him thought that kind of stuff was funny. He pretty much stopped immediately because it wasn't true animosity but he thought he would get a laugh. When he didn't get a laugh he stopped. Like I said decent guy and generally a gentleman but juvenile sense of humor in regards to sexuality.
A HERETIC I AM
(24,371 posts)"Please don't use that word when you are around me. I like you and when you use that word it makes me think less of you, and I don't want to think less of you."
Most of the time, if they have an ounce of decency, they stop it.
gvstn
(2,805 posts)I said something like, "Dave, I can't believe someone as smart as you would say something like that."
It was enough, he never disparaged gays around me again. He still made fat people jokes. I guess when you get to a certain age you just don't care anymore. He was still a nice and educated man but I guess his breakfast club had a juvenile sense of humor. He would never say such things to someone's face and thus hurt their feelings but it was just mean spirited to my hearing.
CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)Wouldn't they eat the lizards?
And what about the billions of bug species? Wouldn't the birds and small rodents have eaten them?
I also worry about the woodchucks and gophers, with all of those pythons and anacondas slithering about.
Also, did the gazelles try to run away from the lions? And if so, didn't that cause quite a commotion on the ark?
So many questions.
world wide wally
(21,748 posts)onethatcares
(16,176 posts)I thought you were talking about the movie "Red Dawn"
TreasonousBastard
(43,049 posts)it is a marvelously inventive lie about the whole thing.
Reminds me of the way kids used to write in trick questions to the Superman comics and they always had an answer.
CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)I have to keep reminding myself that we are still evolving as a species.
I'm not against someone who believes in some sort of God or spirituality. But this kind of stuff, I have no patience for. Sane people do not believe that God got really, really mad at humans and decide to show them a thing or two by flooding the earth and killing nearly everyone. ...And the rainbow is God's symbolic promise that he won't drown us all again. Gee, thanks.
Oh brother.
Does anyone else feel that way---near contempt for anyone who would actually believe this tripe?
And don't get me started on the nonsense I see on Facebook. People thanking God for their "blessings" of their wonderful homes and the fact that their house didn't get hit by the tornado. Ok, but what about the people who don't have homes or whose houses were obliterated by the tornado. My favorite was the woman who thanked the Lord because yesterday, her pool pump wasn't working, but when she checked on it today, it was working. Therefore, God fixed it for her. Praise Jesus who didn't stop starvation (or that tornado) but instead focused his energies on fixing your pool pump.
I worry about the survival and the future of my fellow human beings when I read this stuff...
TreasonousBastard
(43,049 posts)you've finished you won't do much for a while.
Anyway, he takes the "Thank you Lord for helping us win the Battle" to its logical conclusion "Thank you Lord for all the widows and orphans we made..."
http://warprayer.org/
Zorro
(15,743 posts)Blocked on my Mac due to trojan presence detected.
TreasonousBastard
(43,049 posts)nothing popped up about that on my computer.
But, to be safe, any search engine will come up with a bazillion links to the War Prayer"
Zorro
(15,743 posts)but here's what Sophos reports:
High Risk Website Blocked
Location: http://warprayer.org/
Access has been blocked as the threat Troj/ObfJS-BU has been found on this website.
Iggo
(47,561 posts)ladyVet
(1,587 posts)Flying Squirrel
(3,041 posts)At first that was a big deal to me, but there is so much crap out there nowadays that I realize people can be convinced of anything. It's not necessarily a matter of intelligence, more a matter of what they've been exposed to and what they've decided to believe. I guess if those beliefs are causing no harm, it's really not worth making a big deal about it especially if you love the person. It's the beliefs that do cause harm, like anti-vaxxers, that should be most strongly contested. I guess I'm basically saying, pick your battles.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)thankfully.
We already have a bevvy of high res photos of the Apollo sites from the LCROSS orbiter (putting to bed the shit about "why are there no photos of the landing sites?" and as the moon becomes more of a destination and place for a whole bunch of nations and private entities to do science, mine, etc in coming decades, it's gonna be pretty inescapable that all that stuff is still up there.
Frustratedlady
(16,254 posts)I supervised the building of components for the space program and our company was deeply involved/attached to the flights/programs. In fact, we had televisions set up in various departments so we could check in on the news with each flight. When I saw there were people who actually thought the government had set up a stage, complete with fake surfaces to the moon and astronauts at their controls, I was furious. We had put ourselves into the success of the programs, even though we were a small part.
That was my first exposure to the tea nut types and their ridiculous beliefs. They've been a long time in the process, so any conspiracy theories they come up with now don't surprise me one bit.
They walk among us and they breed.
hunter
(38,321 posts)... and back.
He did all sorts of stuff as an Army Air Force officer in World War II, but the work he did for the Apollo Project was the work he was most proud of.
Frustratedlady
(16,254 posts)and then, to have the conspiracy nutz come along and try to make all our efforts a lie was too much. I think fondly of those days.
daleo
(21,317 posts)I assume they just say that, to annoy me. I have a hard time accepting that anyone can really believe it. They are plenty smart in other ways.
nxylas
(6,440 posts)I love my wife, and I'm not saying it's grounds for divorce, but it is worrying to me that an otherwise intelligent person would believe such nonsense.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)Last edited Sun Dec 27, 2015, 08:03 AM - Edit history (1)
and the ability through semantic abstraction to attempt to coherently understand our world and communicate the same, for, hell, maybe a couple hundred thousand years, tops?
I say this not to reiterate the obvious and unchallengeable scientific truth about evolution, but to make it easier to grok why some folks are so fuuuuuuuuuuuckin' dense.
Really, when you think about it, it's pretty astounding we're not just howling and throwing poo at each other all day.
(...that's what GD: P is for!)
Mbrow
(1,090 posts)Start using that in GD P H.A.T.P= howling and throwing poo and i'll blame you for putting that terrible thought in my head!
lovemydog
(11,833 posts)"Really, when you think about it, it's pretty astounding we're not just howling and throwing poo at each other all day.
(...that's what GD: P is for!)"
MrScorpio
(73,631 posts)When I'm very happy that I don't have crazy right wing relatives.
uriel1972
(4,261 posts)steve2470
(37,457 posts)my RW Christian relatives live 8 hours away from me.
PasadenaTrudy
(3,998 posts)I have zero. Zilch. The whole extended family are Bernie supporters. I feel lucky!
Turbineguy
(37,356 posts)her very own hand gun.
Orrex
(63,216 posts)and it explicitly stated that radiation doesn't kill cancer. "Oh, it might reduce some tumors a little, but it actually prevents the body from ridding itself of cancer on its own."
When you ask how dumb ass a person can be, the only answer will always be: "Even dumber than I would have thought."
Teamster Jeff
(1,598 posts)Vinca
(50,296 posts)tazkcmo
(7,300 posts)What's wrong with your brother? Just joking as he obviously loves her and is totally invested emotionally in her. I seriously do not know what I would do had something similar happened to me. Good luck to him and their child.
NightWatcher
(39,343 posts)I cornered my mom who actually thinks that a 600 year old Noah, hand built a boat for every animal... and that thing about old lizards that never stopped growing.
JustABozoOnThisBus
(23,354 posts)and there's a postage stamp to prove it.
n2doc
(47,953 posts)The most polite reptile?
(not that I would expect them to consider swimming dinos and other animals that could not drown in a rainstorm
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JonathanRackham
(1,604 posts)It was the governments fault.
Not to mention dinosaur size life jackets as part of the safety regulations.
libodem
(19,288 posts)That the dinosaur fossils were buried in the Earth because when God formed the world with his hands he used chunks from other planets.
Some folks dont even want to believe the dinosaurs inhabited the Earth.
We all evolve at different rates apparently.
KentuckyWoman
(6,688 posts)I was pretty frustrated when I posted this last night. My patience for this sort of willful ignorance is pretty thin.
Puts it back in perspective.... thank you so much.
tabasco
(22,974 posts)Our species continues to believe in fairy tales as we destroy our natural world and only home.
AngryAmish
(25,704 posts)uriel1972
(4,261 posts)HughBeaumont
(24,461 posts)lovemydog
(11,833 posts)I thank goodness every day that I don't have relatives like that.
Rex
(65,616 posts)Initech
(100,088 posts)I shit you not! I wish this were not real but it is.
http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/bryan-fischer-says-dinosaurs-were-just-giant-1000-year-old-lizards#sthash.53IPVtUM.dpuf