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KentuckyWoman

(6,688 posts)
Sun Dec 27, 2015, 03:45 AM Dec 2015

Seriously, how dumb ass can a person be?

Dinosaurs were just really big lizards that lived over 1000 years and lived at the same time as Adam and Eve.... which was about 6000 years ago.

But after the flood and Noah saved all the animals he had to take small lizards in order to save space on the ark. Since everything stopped living 1000 yrs plus after the flood then the lizards didn't get as big anymore.


My brother's wife actually believes this. I can't decide if I think my brother should have her committed for insanity or if we should all just protect the poor little moron from herself.

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Seriously, how dumb ass can a person be? (Original Post) KentuckyWoman Dec 2015 OP
Well, if you only have so much room saltpoint Dec 2015 #1
well that might explain Loch Ness..... KentuckyWoman Dec 2015 #7
The Great Flood wouldn't have killed off the ocean living dinosaurs. The Great Flood never happened! TheBlackAdder Dec 2015 #45
Yep. It's a real genetic conundrum saltpoint Dec 2015 #46
This may be an indelicate question in this context, bvf Dec 2015 #2
A daughter that barely speaks to her mother KentuckyWoman Dec 2015 #5
Sorry about the family rift, but at least bvf Dec 2015 #8
I'm actually a bit stunned KentuckyWoman Dec 2015 #9
My sister-in-law (whom I dearly love) bvf Dec 2015 #11
My mom's husband (not my dad) gvstn Dec 2015 #14
Good for you, and good for your mom's husband. bvf Dec 2015 #23
Dave was as liberal as could be. gvstn Dec 2015 #55
Here's a line I have used on people like that in the past to great success; A HERETIC I AM Dec 2015 #44
That's pretty much what I said. gvstn Dec 2015 #54
But what about the wolverines? CoffeeCat Dec 2015 #3
You should have seen the size of those wolverines! world wide wally Dec 2015 #4
it's too early onethatcares Dec 2015 #20
So, why elephants and giraffes? Although I have to admit... TreasonousBastard Dec 2015 #6
And to think that people believe this... CoffeeCat Dec 2015 #10
Ever read Mark Twain's "War Prayer"? It's short, but when... TreasonousBastard Dec 2015 #13
Risky link Zorro Dec 2015 #42
I suspect that's a false warning since... TreasonousBastard Dec 2015 #52
Could be not a problem Zorro Dec 2015 #53
"Does anyone else feel that way...?" Iggo Dec 2015 #18
Near contempt? How about utter contempt? Hm. What's stronger than that?... nt ladyVet Dec 2015 #26
My fiance is at least halfway convinced that the moon landing was faked. Flying Squirrel Dec 2015 #12
It's gonna get harder and harder for that one particular pernicious brand of bullshit to survive- Warren DeMontague Dec 2015 #17
That actually was a big issue during the beginning of the space program and early flights. Frustratedlady Dec 2015 #29
My grandfather designed and supervised the making of many metal bits that took humans to the moon... hunter Dec 2015 #30
As well he should have been. We put our hearts and souls into those projects... Frustratedlady Dec 2015 #32
I have brothers who claim not to believe in the moon landing daleo Dec 2015 #50
My wife has started to believe the "one weird trick" woo that gets posted online nxylas Dec 2015 #15
It helps to remember that we are in actuality primates which have only possessed symbolic reasoning Warren DeMontague Dec 2015 #16
OK, I'm going to Mbrow Dec 2015 #31
Haha! lovemydog Dec 2015 #47
It's times like this... MrScorpio Dec 2015 #19
I have found living in another state helps when you do... nt uriel1972 Dec 2015 #21
same here MrScorpio, my brother and son are both left-wingers and... steve2470 Dec 2015 #38
Same here! PasadenaTrudy Dec 2015 #51
She obviously needs Turbineguy Dec 2015 #22
I heard an infomercial on the radio this morning.. Orrex Dec 2015 #24
Comedy Gold at all family get togethers. Could be worse nm Teamster Jeff Dec 2015 #25
And I thought my brother's wife was bad. LOL. Vinca Dec 2015 #27
I think the bigger question is: tazkcmo Dec 2015 #28
Hey Cousin, we're related!!! NightWatcher Dec 2015 #33
People and Dinosaurs indeed lived at the same time JustABozoOnThisBus Dec 2015 #34
But what about the Plesiosaur? n2doc Dec 2015 #35
Actually the USCG limited the size and capacity of the ark. JonathanRackham Dec 2015 #36
I've heard libodem Dec 2015 #37
Thanks every one of you for the laughs over this KentuckyWoman Dec 2015 #39
Humans have developed technology but we are not too bright. tabasco Dec 2015 #40
If people would only believe in the Bible no one would believe in stupid shit. AngryAmish Dec 2015 #41
O.o?... nt uriel1972 Dec 2015 #49
Young Earth Creationism: HughBeaumont Dec 2015 #43
Pretty damn dumb ass. lovemydog Dec 2015 #48
Well since you asked. Rex Dec 2015 #56
Bryan Fischer thinks that dinosaurs were 1,000 year old lizards that kept growing and growing. Initech Dec 2015 #57

saltpoint

(50,986 posts)
1. Well, if you only have so much room
Sun Dec 27, 2015, 03:50 AM
Dec 2015

on the ark, you can't have lizards that are you know, huge.

They'd have to be modest-to-small lizards to fit them onto an already crowded boat.

Noah could have rounded up the huge lizards and placed them atop a high mountain somewhere, well above the level where the flood could wipe them out.

Then it would be huge lizards and The Yeti at those higher altitudes.

TheBlackAdder

(28,209 posts)
45. The Great Flood wouldn't have killed off the ocean living dinosaurs. The Great Flood never happened!
Sun Dec 27, 2015, 11:54 AM
Dec 2015

.


Whatever you do, don't tell them that The Great Flood was disproven.

How? Because every biblical scholar points to a time when it supposedly occurred, a time span when there were three active dynasties in existence: China, Egypt, and India.


===


Then, that would mean that not only are we the incestuous offspring of Adam and Eve, but we then became the incestuous offspring of Noah's family. Adam that right there would reset evangelical's ability to prove the progression of the population, since Adam & Eve, because the population growth would have been reset if the population restarted again with Noah's family, thousands of years later.


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saltpoint

(50,986 posts)
46. Yep. It's a real genetic conundrum
Sun Dec 27, 2015, 12:00 PM
Dec 2015

out there.

Many U.S. Americans believe that any narrative involving a boat would include a mishap with an iceberg or maybe romantic flirtation like they saw on Love Boat on tv.

I'm not sure they can quite offer convincing logistics for all those animals on a wooden craft. I'm definitely sure I can't. I hope no one asks me.

 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
2. This may be an indelicate question in this context,
Sun Dec 27, 2015, 03:55 AM
Dec 2015

so forgive me for asking, but do they have kids?

KentuckyWoman

(6,688 posts)
5. A daughter that barely speaks to her mother
Sun Dec 27, 2015, 04:04 AM
Dec 2015

Daughter has kids and has no particular religious beliefs that i can tell. She made a point of telling me she no longer does Christmas.

From I can tell does a better job at single parenthood than her parents give her credit for. She's of at least average intelligence.

 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
8. Sorry about the family rift, but at least
Sun Dec 27, 2015, 04:12 AM
Dec 2015

there's an upside to it, under the circumstances.

(I've got similar issues in my family, FWIW.)

KentuckyWoman

(6,688 posts)
9. I'm actually a bit stunned
Sun Dec 27, 2015, 04:24 AM
Dec 2015

When my brother's wife revealed herself as an Obama "birther" I just sort of shook my head and gave up trying to explain American citizenship is valid if either parent is a citizen, doesn't matter where you are born. At some point I realized she won't get it and will always believe evil Obama is a Kenyan.

But this just sort of shocked me. And quite frankly embarrassed me for her. I think even my brother was a bit surprised....

 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
11. My sister-in-law (whom I dearly love)
Sun Dec 27, 2015, 05:06 AM
Dec 2015

is married to a guy who, by all appearances, is a pillar of the community. They're pretty well-to-do and have two boys in college.

I haven't been able to stand the sight of the bastard since I heard him refer to some of his one son's (then high school) classmates as "band fags." More recently, he actually made some sort of sick comment (I've blocked it from memory) about Tamir Rice, who was shot not six blocks from where I grew up.

My sister-in-law just rolls her eyes at this. Like I said, I love her deeply, but sometimes I just want to scream at her for bearing his kids.

Family, eh?

gvstn

(2,805 posts)
14. My mom's husband (not my dad)
Sun Dec 27, 2015, 05:22 AM
Dec 2015

At aged 70 and very well educated and a smart man, used to make fag jokes all the time like a middle schooler until I called him out on it.

He then stopped doing it. It wasn't funny and he knew better but for some reason he had done it for all his years. He knew perfectly well that some people were gay but went with the crappy jokes.

He didn't really have any animosity toward gay people but thought it was a good joke. Sometimes you just have to call people out on their insensitivity.

 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
23. Good for you, and good for your mom's husband.
Sun Dec 27, 2015, 09:06 AM
Dec 2015

I admire your resolve in that, and am glad to hear he changed his tune, having really known better all along.

I think my SIL's husband (at 50) is a lost cause. He's a pretty hard-headed type who grew up pretty right-wing. The one saving grace is that he works in sales, and likely doesn't behave that way with clients and prospects, but I shudder to imagine his conversations with "the boys" at the club.

He's a Fox News type generally, and thankfully the subject of politics never comes up when I and/or my daughter (or my father-in-law) are around. I'd bet anything he's a Trump guy (or whoever Fox is pushing).




gvstn

(2,805 posts)
55. Dave was as liberal as could be.
Sun Dec 27, 2015, 07:43 PM
Dec 2015

That was what made it sound so awful. I think it must of been his group of friends that all thought is was funny to ferret out gay people because of their mannerisms. I just couldn't cotton to it and said I couldn't believe a guy as smart as him thought that kind of stuff was funny. He pretty much stopped immediately because it wasn't true animosity but he thought he would get a laugh. When he didn't get a laugh he stopped. Like I said decent guy and generally a gentleman but juvenile sense of humor in regards to sexuality.

A HERETIC I AM

(24,371 posts)
44. Here's a line I have used on people like that in the past to great success;
Sun Dec 27, 2015, 11:24 AM
Dec 2015

"Please don't use that word when you are around me. I like you and when you use that word it makes me think less of you, and I don't want to think less of you."

Most of the time, if they have an ounce of decency, they stop it.

gvstn

(2,805 posts)
54. That's pretty much what I said.
Sun Dec 27, 2015, 07:37 PM
Dec 2015

I said something like, "Dave, I can't believe someone as smart as you would say something like that."

It was enough, he never disparaged gays around me again. He still made fat people jokes. I guess when you get to a certain age you just don't care anymore. He was still a nice and educated man but I guess his breakfast club had a juvenile sense of humor. He would never say such things to someone's face and thus hurt their feelings but it was just mean spirited to my hearing.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
3. But what about the wolverines?
Sun Dec 27, 2015, 04:00 AM
Dec 2015

Wouldn't they eat the lizards?

And what about the billions of bug species? Wouldn't the birds and small rodents have eaten them?

I also worry about the woodchucks and gophers, with all of those pythons and anacondas slithering about.

Also, did the gazelles try to run away from the lions? And if so, didn't that cause quite a commotion on the ark?

So many questions.

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
6. So, why elephants and giraffes? Although I have to admit...
Sun Dec 27, 2015, 04:07 AM
Dec 2015

it is a marvelously inventive lie about the whole thing.

Reminds me of the way kids used to write in trick questions to the Superman comics and they always had an answer.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
10. And to think that people believe this...
Sun Dec 27, 2015, 05:03 AM
Dec 2015

I have to keep reminding myself that we are still evolving as a species.

I'm not against someone who believes in some sort of God or spirituality. But this kind of stuff, I have no patience for. Sane people do not believe that God got really, really mad at humans and decide to show them a thing or two by flooding the earth and killing nearly everyone. ...And the rainbow is God's symbolic promise that he won't drown us all again. Gee, thanks.

Oh brother.

Does anyone else feel that way---near contempt for anyone who would actually believe this tripe?

And don't get me started on the nonsense I see on Facebook. People thanking God for their "blessings" of their wonderful homes and the fact that their house didn't get hit by the tornado. Ok, but what about the people who don't have homes or whose houses were obliterated by the tornado. My favorite was the woman who thanked the Lord because yesterday, her pool pump wasn't working, but when she checked on it today, it was working. Therefore, God fixed it for her. Praise Jesus who didn't stop starvation (or that tornado) but instead focused his energies on fixing your pool pump.

I worry about the survival and the future of my fellow human beings when I read this stuff...


TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
13. Ever read Mark Twain's "War Prayer"? It's short, but when...
Sun Dec 27, 2015, 05:13 AM
Dec 2015

you've finished you won't do much for a while.

Anyway, he takes the "Thank you Lord for helping us win the Battle" to its logical conclusion "Thank you Lord for all the widows and orphans we made..."

http://warprayer.org/

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
52. I suspect that's a false warning since...
Sun Dec 27, 2015, 04:10 PM
Dec 2015

nothing popped up about that on my computer.

But, to be safe, any search engine will come up with a bazillion links to the War Prayer"

Zorro

(15,743 posts)
53. Could be not a problem
Sun Dec 27, 2015, 05:01 PM
Dec 2015

but here's what Sophos reports:

High Risk Website Blocked

Location: http://warprayer.org/
Access has been blocked as the threat Troj/ObfJS-BU has been found on this website.

 

Flying Squirrel

(3,041 posts)
12. My fiance is at least halfway convinced that the moon landing was faked.
Sun Dec 27, 2015, 05:08 AM
Dec 2015

At first that was a big deal to me, but there is so much crap out there nowadays that I realize people can be convinced of anything. It's not necessarily a matter of intelligence, more a matter of what they've been exposed to and what they've decided to believe. I guess if those beliefs are causing no harm, it's really not worth making a big deal about it especially if you love the person. It's the beliefs that do cause harm, like anti-vaxxers, that should be most strongly contested. I guess I'm basically saying, pick your battles.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
17. It's gonna get harder and harder for that one particular pernicious brand of bullshit to survive-
Sun Dec 27, 2015, 05:51 AM
Dec 2015

thankfully.



We already have a bevvy of high res photos of the Apollo sites from the LCROSS orbiter (putting to bed the shit about "why are there no photos of the landing sites?&quot and as the moon becomes more of a destination and place for a whole bunch of nations and private entities to do science, mine, etc in coming decades, it's gonna be pretty inescapable that all that stuff is still up there.

Frustratedlady

(16,254 posts)
29. That actually was a big issue during the beginning of the space program and early flights.
Sun Dec 27, 2015, 09:32 AM
Dec 2015

I supervised the building of components for the space program and our company was deeply involved/attached to the flights/programs. In fact, we had televisions set up in various departments so we could check in on the news with each flight. When I saw there were people who actually thought the government had set up a stage, complete with fake surfaces to the moon and astronauts at their controls, I was furious. We had put ourselves into the success of the programs, even though we were a small part.

That was my first exposure to the tea nut types and their ridiculous beliefs. They've been a long time in the process, so any conspiracy theories they come up with now don't surprise me one bit.

They walk among us and they breed.

hunter

(38,321 posts)
30. My grandfather designed and supervised the making of many metal bits that took humans to the moon...
Sun Dec 27, 2015, 09:45 AM
Dec 2015

... and back.

He did all sorts of stuff as an Army Air Force officer in World War II, but the work he did for the Apollo Project was the work he was most proud of.

Frustratedlady

(16,254 posts)
32. As well he should have been. We put our hearts and souls into those projects...
Sun Dec 27, 2015, 09:53 AM
Dec 2015

and then, to have the conspiracy nutz come along and try to make all our efforts a lie was too much. I think fondly of those days.

daleo

(21,317 posts)
50. I have brothers who claim not to believe in the moon landing
Sun Dec 27, 2015, 12:52 PM
Dec 2015

I assume they just say that, to annoy me. I have a hard time accepting that anyone can really believe it. They are plenty smart in other ways.

nxylas

(6,440 posts)
15. My wife has started to believe the "one weird trick" woo that gets posted online
Sun Dec 27, 2015, 05:40 AM
Dec 2015

I love my wife, and I'm not saying it's grounds for divorce, but it is worrying to me that an otherwise intelligent person would believe such nonsense.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
16. It helps to remember that we are in actuality primates which have only possessed symbolic reasoning
Sun Dec 27, 2015, 05:48 AM
Dec 2015

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and the ability through semantic abstraction to attempt to coherently understand our world and communicate the same, for, hell, maybe a couple hundred thousand years, tops?

I say this not to reiterate the obvious and unchallengeable scientific truth about evolution, but to make it easier to grok why some folks are so fuuuuuuuuuuuckin' dense.



Really, when you think about it, it's pretty astounding we're not just howling and throwing poo at each other all day.



(...that's what GD: P is for!)

Mbrow

(1,090 posts)
31. OK, I'm going to
Sun Dec 27, 2015, 09:48 AM
Dec 2015

Start using that in GD P H.A.T.P= howling and throwing poo and i'll blame you for putting that terrible thought in my head!

lovemydog

(11,833 posts)
47. Haha!
Sun Dec 27, 2015, 12:10 PM
Dec 2015

"Really, when you think about it, it's pretty astounding we're not just howling and throwing poo at each other all day.

(...that's what GD: P is for!)"



steve2470

(37,457 posts)
38. same here MrScorpio, my brother and son are both left-wingers and...
Sun Dec 27, 2015, 10:46 AM
Dec 2015

my RW Christian relatives live 8 hours away from me.

Orrex

(63,216 posts)
24. I heard an infomercial on the radio this morning..
Sun Dec 27, 2015, 09:11 AM
Dec 2015

and it explicitly stated that radiation doesn't kill cancer. "Oh, it might reduce some tumors a little, but it actually prevents the body from ridding itself of cancer on its own."

When you ask how dumb ass a person can be, the only answer will always be: "Even dumber than I would have thought."

tazkcmo

(7,300 posts)
28. I think the bigger question is:
Sun Dec 27, 2015, 09:32 AM
Dec 2015

What's wrong with your brother? Just joking as he obviously loves her and is totally invested emotionally in her. I seriously do not know what I would do had something similar happened to me. Good luck to him and their child.

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
33. Hey Cousin, we're related!!!
Sun Dec 27, 2015, 10:00 AM
Dec 2015

I cornered my mom who actually thinks that a 600 year old Noah, hand built a boat for every animal... and that thing about old lizards that never stopped growing.

n2doc

(47,953 posts)
35. But what about the Plesiosaur?
Sun Dec 27, 2015, 10:11 AM
Dec 2015

The most polite reptile?



(not that I would expect them to consider swimming dinos and other animals that could not drown in a rainstorm…)

JonathanRackham

(1,604 posts)
36. Actually the USCG limited the size and capacity of the ark.
Sun Dec 27, 2015, 10:29 AM
Dec 2015

It was the governments fault.

Not to mention dinosaur size life jackets as part of the safety regulations.

libodem

(19,288 posts)
37. I've heard
Sun Dec 27, 2015, 10:39 AM
Dec 2015

That the dinosaur fossils were buried in the Earth because when God formed the world with his hands he used chunks from other planets.

Some folks dont even want to believe the dinosaurs inhabited the Earth.

We all evolve at different rates apparently.

KentuckyWoman

(6,688 posts)
39. Thanks every one of you for the laughs over this
Sun Dec 27, 2015, 10:50 AM
Dec 2015

I was pretty frustrated when I posted this last night. My patience for this sort of willful ignorance is pretty thin.

Puts it back in perspective.... thank you so much.

 

tabasco

(22,974 posts)
40. Humans have developed technology but we are not too bright.
Sun Dec 27, 2015, 10:55 AM
Dec 2015

Our species continues to believe in fairy tales as we destroy our natural world and only home.

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