For those wondering, Ted Cruz released his long form birth certificate in 2013

[MohRokTah]

Although he renounced his Canadian citizenship which he acquired Jus Soli, according to this he should be a citizen of the United States at birth via Jus Sanguinis. He may also be a citizen of Cuba via Jus Sanguinis.



http://www.dallasnews.com/news/politics/headlines/20130818-born-in-canada-ted-cruz-became-a-citizen-of-that-country-as-well-as-u.s..ece

[COLGATE4]

1. WHY WHY WHY !!!!!!!!!!!!

The 'certificate' itself doesn't even have a serial number on it, doesn't have an original signature. doesn't say who the delivering physician was or who witnesses to the birth were nor can you read the name of the person who supposedly signed it. Not to mention that if you look at it under a special secret ultra-ultra light you can see the 'layers' in it, which shows that it's an obvious forgery. Where is the LONG FORM birth certificate. Orly wants to know.*


*(For the humor challenged readers, this was intended as a comment on the birtherism that Rafael a/k/a Ted has espoused in earlier times)

[Demonaut]

18. orly...forgot about her...nutcase

[jmowreader]

20. The attending physician was E.F. Lavender. You know that.

(For the especially humor challenged readers, E.F. Lavender was the purported "attending physician" on Obama's "Kenyan Birth Certificate" the teabaggers all thought was real a few years ago, until the smartass who made it let them know EF Lavender is a brand of laundry detergent.)

[Gothmog]

2. Where is his Consular Record of Birth?

For US purposes, this is the key document.

[Vinca]

3. I think you've answered my question.

I've been wondering how Ted would prove his U.S. citizenship. I've got my U.S. birth certificate and my husband has his naturalization certificate, but all Ted has is proof of Canadian citizenship . . . which he renounced.

[SickOfTheOnePct]

6. A Consular Record of Birth is not required

Would make it nice and easy, but not a requirement.

His U.S. passport is proof of his U.S. citizenship.

[Vinca]

9. But what did he provide to get that?

I had to provide my birth certificate and my husband had to provide his naturalization papers.

[Gothmog]

14. I had to show my CRB to get a passport

[SickOfTheOnePct]

15. Passports can be obtainted directly

at the consulate or embassy without the CRB, and the passport then becomes proof of citizenship.

I have no idea if this is what was done with Cruz or not; he may well have a CRB. But he would have had to show something proving citizenship in order to obtain a passport, and unless that something was naturalization papers, he's eligible.

This whole thing is so stupid - I can't believe Democrats are falling for it.

[Nay]

16. But Ted would have had to have been a baby at the time, right? He has

previously said that he got his first US passport at age 14 while he was in the US. Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but he and his parents would have had to produce some proof of his citizenship. What was that document? Would it just be his mother's birth certificate, and an embassy investigation to confirm that his mother had lived in the US for the correct number of years before Ted's birth? And why would the embassy not have issued the Certificate for Birth of a US Citizen Abroad along with the passport? It's all so weird, really.

It's so simple. So simple. Produce the document that got you that US passport. Why can't he do it?

As far as Democrats "falling for it," IMHO Democrats certainly have far more reason to question his citizenship than the Tea Partiers had to question Obama's.

[SickOfTheOnePct]

19. Yes, he would have had to provide something to show he was a citizen

when he got his passport, no idea what that was if he was in the U.S.

If he got the passport in the U.S., he wouldn't have gone to an embassy, and if he obtained a passport, there would be no reason for a certificate.

Yes, the accusations against Obama were ridiculous, no doubt. And so is this one.

[Nay]

21. He moved to the US when he was 4 or 5 and lived here the rest of his life.

So, until he was 14, what document did his parents use to get him into school? His Canadian birth certificate? I guess.

Back when questions were asked (by a fellow Republican, BTW) about his route to citizenship, he could have produced whatever document he and his parents used to get his passport. That's all. He's released his Canadian birth certificate and his mother's birth certificate. Well, his Canadian BC certainly doesn't prove he's a US citizen. His mother's BC helps, for sure, to pave the way for his citizenship, but generally, for the child, there is a document generated based on his mother's citizenship because getting citizenship through your mother is contingent upon the mother's residency in the US for ten years, 5 of which must have been after she was 14. Also, it has been discovered that the parents were registered to vote in Canada, a privilege reserved for Canadian citizens.

I don't think it's ridiculous to wonder what Cruz's primary citizenship document is and want to see it. It's actually suspicious that Cruz doesn't just get that document and publish it. Don't you think so? Why the mystery? Especially after all the crazy crap Obama went through with all those birther idiots. Can you imagine what would have happened if Obama had had a Canadian birth certificate? As it is now, the pub birthers (other than Trump) are pretty quiet about Cruz's origins, since IOKIYAAR.

I think Cruz's skulking around and production of basically irrelevant documents is more indicative of his non-citizenship than anything else. One has to wonder why he (or his parents, or any rational person) would even choose to act this way. Would you, if you were in that situation? What is the benefit? None that I can see. Mental illness and/or narcissism can make you act that way, unfortunately, which is a whole other problem.

[Nay]

7. Yes -- the ONE document that would put all this to rest, and he can't/won't

produce it. It or whatever he used to get a US passport -- that's what he needs to show.

[FLPanhandle]

4. We need to see his mom's BC too

Apparently she was a registered Canadian voter.

[SickOfTheOnePct]

5. Her birth certificate was released a couple of days ago

Born in Delaware.

[FLPanhandle]

8. Was it the "long form" and has Sheriff Arpaio investigated it?

[-none]

11. Any links to any information to this?

[SickOfTheOnePct]

12. link below

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/ted-cruz-releases-mothers-birth-certificate-after-citizenship-debate/

[WinkyDink]

10. There's a lot more than "citizenship" that makes Cruz unfit to be POTUS!

[mountain grammy]

13. So true.

[Demonaut]

17. that's definitely settled....he's not elegible