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tencats

(567 posts)
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 02:44 PM Jan 2016

Rancher: 'I didn't know anything' about Bundy entering property, destroying fence


Tim Puckett and his crew make repairs to a public fence that was cut by militants to give access for his livestock to refuge land two days ago. Puckett was unaware of their plan and is repairing the fence. Thomas Boyd/Staff

BURNS — Tim Puckett, the rancher whose cattle graze private rangeland adjoining the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge, said he didn't give Ammon Bundy and his band of armed militants permission to enter the ranch Monday afternoon and destroy a publicly owned fence.

In fact, Puckett said Tuesday that he has never spoken to Bundy, the leader of a militant group that has occupied the refuge headquarters compound since Jan. 2. The militants are protesting the federal government's land-use policies, advocating for public property to be turned over to local ranchers and loggers.


"I am very upset," Puckett said. His ranch hands have already repaired the fence. "They're not coming onto my place no more," he said of the militants. "If they do, I'm gonna have to do something about it. I don't want them going across my ground."

He said he has no beef with the Bureau of Land Management.

"I work with BLM," Puckett said. "I have no problem with them." He said government officials told him of their plans to erect the fence, which he said "has not nor will it affect my cattle operation."

"I am a good steward of the land. ... In no way do I feel that I am entitled to the refuge for grazing," he said.

http://www.oregonlive.com/oregon-standoff/2016/01/rancher_i_didnt_know_anything.html
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Rancher: 'I didn't know anything' about Bundy entering property, destroying fence (Original Post) tencats Jan 2016 OP
Maybe this is why the Bundy Bunch want to hold a town hall meeting. randome Jan 2016 #1
Mr. Puckett is owed moondust Jan 2016 #2
Ranchers always have enough fences to repair, without vandals giving them more to do. MH1 Jan 2016 #22
I have a fence like that and it is difficult to get it pulled back tight in a uniform manner. Jim Beard Jan 2016 #29
been there subject Jan 2016 #45
Mr. Puckett could be my uncle Owen. We come from Eastern Oregon with a tradition of ranching roguevalley Jan 2016 #3
Yeah, was going to say he reminds me of my dad. Fantastic Anarchist Jan 2016 #15
Ha! Marty McGraw Jan 2016 #21
you have an uncle named Owen, beergood Jan 2016 #37
My late grand dad Bob W was from southern Oregon had an orchard and some livestock .... Botany Jan 2016 #40
I love this guy! Give the yee-mams from the cowliphate hell! central scrutinizer Jan 2016 #4
I believe most ranchers are like Mr. Puckett joeybee12 Jan 2016 #5
I agree elmac Jan 2016 #18
Or they're thieves. blackspade Jan 2016 #24
Most of the ones I know are bhikkhu Jan 2016 #28
It Sounds like the BLM and the locals... cynzke Jan 2016 #33
How The Bundy Standoff Could Screw Over Ranchers pinboy3niner Jan 2016 #41
Now that's a man. nt thereismore Jan 2016 #6
Poor guy. nt dorkzilla Jan 2016 #7
Of course Roy Rolling Jan 2016 #8
Yep...and the REAL rugged individual wants those idiots to get lost. Lizzie Poppet Jan 2016 #10
I find the same attitude with a lot of people who go broke at a business and they blame the Jim Beard Jan 2016 #30
"He said he has no beef with the Bureau of Land Management" eggplant Jan 2016 #9
Heh heh heh. progressoid Jan 2016 #12
"No Beef" Yeah, I herd ya. JustABozoOnThisBus Jan 2016 #13
He is on the horns of a dilemma klook Jan 2016 #17
No beef??? cui bono Jan 2016 #25
Nevada Ranchers Didn't Support the Bundys, Either Leith Jan 2016 #11
K & R Marty McGraw Jan 2016 #14
The Bundies are terrorists Angry Dragon Jan 2016 #16
And insurgents. cui bono Jan 2016 #26
I would gladly volunteer elmac Jan 2016 #19
Paid by the Kock brothers. Really, they want free mineral deposits. Jim Beard Jan 2016 #31
And maybe a TV show! moondust Jan 2016 #32
Unbelievable lastone Jan 2016 #20
Sounds like the Bundy teahadists need to reinburse this gentleman. blackspade Jan 2016 #23
I like this man. cheapdate Jan 2016 #27
Me too! Helen Borg Jan 2016 #38
If he charges them for trespassing, Harney County has to serve the warrants. Not federal land! L. Coyote Jan 2016 #34
I think a better hashtag for this photo would be StandingInLeftField Jan 2016 #36
Nice, mature, fellow it seems Babel_17 Jan 2016 #35
The Bundys might entertain the possibility that they could be wrong. Enthusiast Jan 2016 #39
They have God on their side so they can't be wrong. alfredo Jan 2016 #42
Yes, there's always room at the bottom of the long list of others who thought that, it seems. L. Coyote Jan 2016 #43
The loser's god was the false god. alfredo Jan 2016 #44
 

randome

(34,845 posts)
1. Maybe this is why the Bundy Bunch want to hold a town hall meeting.
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 02:47 PM
Jan 2016

They may be getting ready to cut their losses.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Precision and concision. That's the game.[/center][/font][hr]

moondust

(19,981 posts)
2. Mr. Puckett is owed
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 02:53 PM
Jan 2016

some apologies as well as compensation for the time and materials required to repair the damage the vandals did to the fence. And maybe some personal protection if he wants it.

MH1

(17,600 posts)
22. Ranchers always have enough fences to repair, without vandals giving them more to do.
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 08:11 PM
Jan 2016

You are right, Puckett is owed for damages done by these turds.

 

Jim Beard

(2,535 posts)
29. I have a fence like that and it is difficult to get it pulled back tight in a uniform manner.
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 11:36 PM
Jan 2016

The wire comes in 1/4 mile spools and if the break is about 1/4 the LENGTH of that length, the posts on the short side will tighten and those post will lean while the rest 3/4 will not be as tight.

Make them redo the whole 1/4 mile.

subject

(118 posts)
45. been there
Thu Jan 14, 2016, 03:22 PM
Jan 2016

and it's real hard work, esp. in the winter. And when they're done, they better bring him a nice bottle for not pressing charges.

roguevalley

(40,656 posts)
3. Mr. Puckett could be my uncle Owen. We come from Eastern Oregon with a tradition of ranching
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 03:02 PM
Jan 2016

these are great hard working people. I hate this for them. I hate it for my state. What a grandpa looking old guy just trying to live his life.

Marty McGraw

(1,024 posts)
21. Ha!
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 06:16 PM
Jan 2016

I have Puckett's in my family tree with origins more around Cove and La Grande OR. Have to send this one on to Mah and see if it sparks any recognition. Family lines on both sides come from around that corner of the state.

Love it up there whenever I go visit and the people are very genuine but being so detached from elsewhere I hope their moral integrity have been spared from the Fox onslaught over all these years.

Botany

(70,504 posts)
40. My late grand dad Bob W was from southern Oregon had an orchard and some livestock ....
Thu Jan 14, 2016, 09:08 AM
Jan 2016

.... I hate to think what he had his neighbors would do if somebody cut their fence
so that their sheep and or cattle would go get out.

Besides charging Bundy and his gang w/the laws they broke they need to bill them
for time and materials to fix the fence ..... I saw $75.00 per man per hour.

central scrutinizer

(11,648 posts)
4. I love this guy! Give the yee-mams from the cowliphate hell!
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 03:14 PM
Jan 2016

I bet he will wear leather gloves when he repairs his fence, unlike Bundy. Bundy's hands looked awfully clean and soft. Don't think he has done much actual work in his life.

 

elmac

(4,642 posts)
18. I agree
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 05:45 PM
Jan 2016

the only ones who hate "big gobbment" are too lazy too do the work or have a fox news lobotomy.

bhikkhu

(10,715 posts)
28. Most of the ones I know are
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 11:29 PM
Jan 2016

and I have a lot of respect for them. A "good steward of the land" is really what you have to be to manage a successful ranch, and most of them are pretty well educated on environmental issues.

cynzke

(1,254 posts)
33. It Sounds like the BLM and the locals...
Thu Jan 14, 2016, 12:25 AM
Jan 2016

Have this area fairly well managed and don't want or need outside arrogant agitators like the Bundy Bunch to interfere. Go home and fuck up your own state Bundy. Oregon doesn't want you.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
41. How The Bundy Standoff Could Screw Over Ranchers
Thu Jan 14, 2016, 09:54 AM
Jan 2016
by Alex Zielinski & Alan Pyke Jan 11, 2016 9:31 am

...

Local residents are tired of the ongoing game of tug-of-war over the land now referred to as the Harney Basin. This latest dispute has rekindled the tensions over land use that have marked the region ever since cattle barons first settled on Paiute Indian soil in the mid-1800s.

Just a few years ago, however, stakeholders including ranchers, environmentalists, and federal agents unveiled an agreed-upon conservation plan for the wildlife refuge sitting in the heart of the basin. It had taken three years to negotiate, but the result — which took into consideration ranchers’ livelihoods, ecological concerns, and local economic sustainability — became a beacon of hope in the region, as well as in other rural communities wrought with similar conflict.

Now, Ammon Bundy’s headline-grabbing occupation is imperiling that accord.

A Short History of Deep-Seated Conflict

...

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2016/01/11/3737719/rancher-history-oregon/

Roy Rolling

(6,917 posts)
8. Of course
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 04:09 PM
Jan 2016

Most people are decent, sharing people. Only greedy losers feel entitled to other people's property.

Ironic that the "self-made and rugged individuals" who are trespassing have such a deep-seated sense of entitlement.

 

Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)
10. Yep...and the REAL rugged individual wants those idiots to get lost.
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 04:30 PM
Jan 2016
"I am a good steward of the land. ... In no way do I feel that I am entitled to the refuge for grazing," he said.


 

Jim Beard

(2,535 posts)
30. I find the same attitude with a lot of people who go broke at a business and they blame the
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 11:44 PM
Jan 2016

government. The ironic thing is there are other businesses like then that are doing good.

I remember on 60 minutes when businesses feared Mike Wallace because he would expose their shoddy business practices....then, business started suing and it was no longer economical to attack business. They then started finding fault with the US budget and they haven't let up since and no lawsuits.

Leith

(7,809 posts)
11. Nevada Ranchers Didn't Support the Bundys, Either
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 04:31 PM
Jan 2016

They said that they understood what he was doing, but that they could not support it.

 

elmac

(4,642 posts)
19. I would gladly volunteer
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 05:50 PM
Jan 2016

to repair his fence for him if I lived nearby, he is a good, honest man. Hope the for profit Buddy's leave him alone. They are just doing this so they can make $$$$ going around the country speaking to idiots that will pay for it.

 

lastone

(588 posts)
20. Unbelievable
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 05:59 PM
Jan 2016

These people are so fucking stupid it must be physically painful to think.

I just heard on interview on local (OR) public radio on how in the 80's there were aggressive blm employees but NOW the whole county is a model of public and private interests working together basically the model of compromise. It just seems to me that these fools live in another century and want to go back to where you can grab your wife by the hair and drag you into the bedroom or punch your kid in the face because he disrespected you suck these Niagara Falls I am so sick of these f****** fools it makes you want to go down there and laugh in their faces.

blackspade

(10,056 posts)
23. Sounds like the Bundy teahadists need to reinburse this gentleman.
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 09:21 PM
Jan 2016

What a bunch of fucking idiots.
And the Feds still sit and do nothing.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
34. If he charges them for trespassing, Harney County has to serve the warrants. Not federal land!
Thu Jan 14, 2016, 12:50 AM
Jan 2016

[center]This fits this story particularly well, these free range nuts are all beef and no cows.



What's next, the right to steal cows if you don't already have a herd for your free ranch? Or, does the government have to buy them for you?

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
43. Yes, there's always room at the bottom of the long list of others who thought that, it seems.
Thu Jan 14, 2016, 01:32 PM
Jan 2016

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Thought that and were wrong. All too often when people think that, you have two sides at war and both of them think in the face of 50/50 odds they are the wrong side and on the faith there is a God in the first place and having him on your side makes you right. How do minds accomplish such magical thinking? Oh yeah, Fox News.

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