Is it likely there will be a GOP President in a generation

[gabeana]

unless they change their scare tactics seems like they are only talking to their base and their base is getting older and dying
our concern is getting our base out, but I think because of the demographics the white house is out of reach for the GOP
maybe I am wrong on this but didn't democratic candidates in 2014 get a million more votes in the midterms but because of Gerrymandering the GOP gain seats.

[Stargleamer]

1. Unfortunately, yes

They still wield excessive power, and have disenfranchised millions. Underestimate them at your own peril.

[Travis_0004]

2. The makeup of the US senate shows they still have a significant backing.

[Recursion]

3. I think any D candidate will be hard-pressed to win in 2016

A generation from now? Who can say. Parties tend to realign every so often.

[gabeana]

5. You think it is going to be hard for a Democrat in 2016?

The country is in a lot better place than it was in 2008
only 1 time since 88 has a gop presidential candidate got more votes than a Dem and that was by an incumbent 04 and barely that was

[Recursion]

8. I do

I think structurally it's hard for a party to retain the WH after a two term President. I think the Republican base is energized and angry and activated, and the Democratic base would rather set up a circular firing squad.

[Sen. Walter Sobchak]

9. I think both Clinton and Sanders are 100% unelectable

We have the female Mitt Romney whose entire essence is "I'm here to collect my birthright and don't you dare fuck this up for me this time!" and a simplistic yet histrionic socialist who will appeal to the same people who listened to Air America and make even the slightly affluent feel pretty uncomfortable.

So yeah, unless there is something in Hillary's email that is going to get her thrown in jail in the immediate future. I'm pretty sure we're looking at a Republican victory this November.

[joshcryer]

4. 2032, probably, GOP might die as a party.

[doc03]

6. I think it is most likely they will win in 2016. Since the emergence of Bernie

it has created bad blood between Democrats. If Hillary pulls it off I don't think she can win
since we have all these people claiming they won't vote on our side and all the 24/7 propaganda
from the right, Hillary is toast in 2016. If Bernie gets the nomination he won't survive the onslaught from
the right. They want to run against him he will be easy out. We are looking at a Republican administration,
a Republican House and a good chance of a Republican Senate. Then also goes the SCOTUS for decades.

[gabeana]

7. So the election is already over then?

I mean after all there was no bad no bad blood in 2008, give me a break

[doc03]

10. We don't have anthing close to Obama this time. I admit I didn't think

Obama could pull it off either. I guess anything is possible, I had no idea that moran Trump could get this far either.

[melman]

11. Yes

I don't buy the idea that their base is all getting old and dying. Not all young people are liberals, not by a long shot.

[haele]

12. Once upon a time, there were liberal Republicans. More along the line of communitarians.

They tended to be comfortable with a more hierarchal society that was thoughtful, fair, and just, where a man (or woman) could profit so long as they paid their taxes, their respects, and didn't "profiteer", and everyone would also be able to have the same chances.
They might not have been very merciful to those who didn't quite fit within the pattern of the social structure (or caused trouble), but they could be swayed by appealing to their party's historical reputation for justice on the grass-roots level. They accepted change and differences so long as they weren't rushed into making a decision, or their opinions were ignored; rushing them tended to scare them off, and ignoring them tended to put up their backs (you could argue with them or have a different opinion, but you had to hear them out and then help them work through their positions if they needed to change their minds for anything to change for the better...)


Liberal Republicans were lulled into middle class complacency during the Eisenhower years, slowly poisoned through the shock of the Nixon betrayals and increasing paranoia emanating from the hard-line conservatives whose louder voices began driving their party, and any liberal leanings were pretty much killed off during the economic swings of Disaster Capitalism and political cabals and conspiracies of the Reagan years that required the GOP to fall into ideological lock-step. And Newt buried the few remaining who didn't jump ship to the Democrats or various Independent parties, the ones who wanted to remain true to the party of Theodore Roosevelt.

It took a generation for the GOP to so reduce their party that it can only function within a small, controlled and rarified environment. It will take at least four more election cycles for that party to be able to expand enough to honestly win a national election. That's not to say they can't cheat again, disenfranchising the majority of citizens living in urban centers in favor of their small localized and gerrymandered strongholds.

Haele