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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsProtester arrested in Burns, driving stolen refuge vehicle
The man was identified as Kenneth Medenbach, 62, of Crescent. He was accused of unauthorized use of a motor vehicle. Law enforcement officials said Medenbach is currently on federal probation stemming from another militia-style episode in southern Oregon last year.
He is the first person arrested in connection with the armed occupation of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge, taken over two weeks ago.
He was arrested in the Safeway parking lot in one vehicle bearing federal government license plates. A second federal vehicle was parked next to him, but the man police suspect of driving that into town already had gone into the grocery before police arrived.
http://www.oregonlive.com/oregon-standoff/2016/01/protester_arrested_in_burns_dr.html#incart_river_index
One Yeehawdist down, hopefully more to come.
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cwydro
(51,308 posts)Even if they take them one by one, that'll work.
bluedigger
(17,126 posts)Driving government vehicles into town for snacks.
opiate69
(10,129 posts)Or an astounding combination?
sarge43
(29,063 posts)Wounded Bear
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sarge43
(29,063 posts)waddirum
(987 posts)but tiny cascabel.
emulatorloo
(45,449 posts)Vinca
(50,698 posts)rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)the Refuge are a violation of his release conditions, so he'll be facing more than just the auto charges. He's got a record a mile long.
Monk06
(7,675 posts)I hope they start picking them off one at a time shopping for snacks. Bunch of couch potato losers
world wide wally
(21,779 posts)progressoid
(50,353 posts)403Forbidden
(166 posts)What's up with that?
thereismore
(13,326 posts)that just walked into store is the same one that drove the vehicle.
Mister Ed
(6,251 posts)Those deluded, self-aggrandizing dimbulbs out at the refuge have been promising to go down in a blaze of glory and a hail of bullets rather than let the law take 'em in.
They're probably too chicken to carry out their threats, but still, it may have been wise on the part of the law officers to exercise caution, and make sure some poor toddler didn't get shot out of his grocery-cart seat in the crossfire when they confronted the Rambo wannabee in the store.
MrChuck
(279 posts)There has been a lot of talk in some circles about blasting these buffoons and, personally, I'm glad they're not doing that.
I can only hope that we see an increase in savvy and restraint when it comes to suspects with darker skin tone. The juxtaposition in methodology is truly staggering.
Here's to the peace. May it increase.
Blanks
(4,835 posts)With each passing day. The right thing to do is to let it run its course.
Arrest them when they give up and go home.
missingthebigdog
(1,233 posts)That works, too.
2pooped2pop
(5,420 posts)Well, they did the leave them alone part.
Blanks
(4,835 posts)Seems diminished. I'm not seeing an increase in support for these guys.
I guarantee the popularity of the government would decrease if they charged them.
I think they're doing the right thing by mostly ignoring them.
TreasonousBastard
(43,049 posts)Did he just come out after shopping and drive back without anyone stopping him?
They couldn't impound both vehicles and grab the guy as he was hitching a ride back?
daleanime
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LiberalArkie
(15,993 posts)by the law. They are doing it correctly. Probably everyone one of them will make a mistake a some point.
opiate69
(10,129 posts)The van was towed out, and the pick-up was driven to impound by a sheriff. Goober #2 is probably resigning himself to a long, cold walk back to the refuge (although the article now says several yeehawdists have gotten into cars to head into town... could get interesting).
malaise
(274,652 posts)opiate69
(10,129 posts)Sounds like he was inside the store before they got there.
randys1
(16,286 posts)malaise
(274,652 posts)A Native American or an African American would be in a body bag by now
opiate69
(10,129 posts)![](http://image.oregonlive.com/home/olive-media/width960/img/oregonian/photo/2016/01/15/-33e566974fbc9946.jpg)
Note the glaring lack of cammo.
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opiate69
(10,129 posts)He looks pretty much exactly like any other middle-aged guy who would otherwise be shopping at Safeway in pretty much any location in the Pacific Northwest (My home for the last 25+ years)... no way in hell Goober #2 is going to stick out in a crowd in that neck of the woods.
I get it
Baitball Blogger
(47,411 posts)"What happened to Medenbach? He don't write, he don't call."
Eugene
(62,392 posts)http://law.justia.com/cases/federal/appellate-courts/F3/116/487/611496/
If history is any guide, this guy wants to get arrested and
has repeatedly claimed federal property as his own.
He has used booby traps and explosives.
Marty McGraw
(1,024 posts)A lot has changed in the real world since Medenbach was left for rot in Cidhna Mine. He and his whacka-doodle forsworn antics of old aren't as tolerated in this age no more. Once a yahoo.....
RiffRandell
(5,909 posts)The longer the better.
Thanks for posting!
cui bono
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phantom power
(25,966 posts)ffr
(22,908 posts)Arrest and throw away the key. Terrorists must be dealt with harshly.
FuzzyRabbit
(2,045 posts)They are white.
ffr
(22,908 posts)FuzzyRabbit
(2,045 posts)Even though they brandish firearms and have tried to intimidate local authorities, they are referred to by the news media as "protesters" and "militants". The government has done nothing, just as they did nothing to the Bundy "protesters" in Nevada, who actively aimed loaded firearms at federal authorities.
SCantiGOP
(14,072 posts)Oh, forgot, he's a patriot.
libodem
(19,288 posts)Headed up by the ex Fire Marshall?
I never ceased to be amazed at the brazen favoritism shown these seditious tearrorists.
Ferd Berfel
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sulphurdunn
(6,891 posts)to a Safeway in anybody's vehicle? Is the end game is to let these fuckers get away with this?
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Still In Wisconsin
(4,450 posts)...Ima gettun pow'ful hungry fo' Slim Jims and Doritos!
jalan48
(14,131 posts)2pooped2pop
(5,420 posts)How could that be?
Gman
(24,780 posts)"No man, they ain't one of us."
Binkie The Clown
(7,911 posts)That's the way to get them in jail without mass confrontation.
tencats
(567 posts)Medenbach was tried and convicted of the same crime in 1996. According to a forest service officer who testified at that trial, Medenbach was living in an eight-by-ten-foot tent with a metal flue and wood-burning stove, a nearby campfire, and various cooking and sleeping equipment.
According to a court memorandum, the magistrate said that Medenbach posed a risk to public safety and said that he had referenced Ruby Ridge and Waco, two sieges that ended in violence. At a detention hearing, the government said that Medenbach had tried to protect his campsite with 50 to 100 pounds of the explosive ammonium sulfate, a pellet gun, and what appeared to be a hand grenade with trip wires.
Convicted and given a six-month suspended sentence, Medenbach appealed the case to the federal ninth circuit court, where he argued that federal ownership of unappropriated public lands was unconstitutional. He also filed a civil suit to demand that federal judges no longer swear an oath of affirmation under the constitution, a position he defended in this blog post from January 2015.
He was extensively profiled in the 1999 book Terrorists Among Us: The Militia Threat, by retired Indiana police captain Robert L Snow. At the time, Snow wrote, Medenbach was building his own home on five acres of land in Crescent, Oregon, out of discarded refrigerators, water heaters, and other such material. Medenbach, according to Snow, subscribed to the legal theory that state bar associations are unconstitutional, and so courts have no authority over him.
Im willing to pay the price for my convictions, Medenbach told Snow. Someday, when the laws become too stringent, people will start waking up.
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jan/15/oregon-militia-standoff-arrest-stolen-government-vehicle-burns-oregon-police-kenneth-medenbach
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)...from federal charges now pending in Medford. (From OP link, updated.)
Vogon_Glory
(9,352 posts)Good. One clown removed from the circus.
NOW can we cut off their electricity?
Coventina
(27,565 posts)But somehow, I doubt he gets the irony.....
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)annabanana
(52,791 posts)If he had access to a small plane, he would almost certainly try to fly it into a federal building at the first available opportunity.
Lock and key, close observation and a long long sentence are called for.