Federal Government Will NEVER Get The Sanctuary Back - The Occupiers.

[TheMastersNemesis]

As far as some occupiers are concerned the federal government will never get the sanctuary and its buildings back. As far as the militia is concerned the federal government ONLY has authority in the District of Columbia and that is it. Buddy himself calls it a mission from God.

So the waiting game could go on for how long is anyones guess. Plus the city of Burns is becoming polarized over the issue of the occupation by the militia.

It looks like the militia will resist if any effort is made to interfere with them. And that probably means cordoning off the sanctuary access or stopping them from coming and going freely. There is little indication that there is any solution moving forward.

The federal government is stymied right now because if it does act violent resistance is the likely outcome. These people are determined to win this. And it looks like the numbers of occupiers is growing as other militants filter in.

[jberryhill]

1. I'm thinking of taking over a wildlife refuge

Well, fuckit, since it doesn't seem to be illegal, I'm thinking I might as well get one for "Me the People" too.

There are a couple of them near me, and I'm trying to make up my mind between the John Heinz National Wildlife Refuge adjacent to the Philadelphia Airport or the Bombay Hook National Wildlife Refuge here in Delaware.

Bombay Hook is larger, but Heinz is closer to shopping and I-95.

[pinboy3niner]

4. Your indecision may cause you to forget the most important thing

SNACKS!

[jberryhill]

6. There's a really big convenience store right outside Heinz

So I'm set.

[pinboy3niner]

18. How're you fixed for dildos?

[Fairgo]

20. Not often a person gets

To ask that question. Made me laugh.

[jberryhill]

22. You're welcome to come along

[Lorien]

2. And yet if they were anyone BUT white conservative males

they would have been in jail or a body bag by day two, and everyone would agree that they "deserved" it. We have drones armed with Tasers. We have other riot control devices. Vanilla ISIS is costing the taxpayers too much and making law enforcement look weak. They need to be locked up pronto.

[TheMastersNemesis]

5. It Is A Campaign Issue For GOP No Matter What Happens.

If anyone is hurt or even killed should action be taken I am sure the GOP will call for impeachment of Obama and arrest for murder of any federal agents who participate in such action. Fox Noise will chime in and go after Dems and Obama as well.

The GOP is irresponsible and crazy. They are in a frenzy to win this election.

[Lorien]

12. But even a lot of Republicans don't want to be tied to these nuts

Breaking the law is breaking the law. Can you honestly saw that if a Native American group did the same they wouldn't be met with immediate force? Who the fuck cares what the extremists in the GOP think anyway? We have to stop fearing how bullies will react; SOMEONE has to be a grown up, for Chrissakes!

[TheMastersNemesis]

15. I Would Not Count On The GOP For Anything Positive. They Are Opportunists.

I am not sure I would trust the GOP on this issue. Any more I am not sure what reality is in this country.

In principle you are right.

[wordpix]

27. Imagine if a group of armed black men did same

Maybe taking over a D.C. federal building or park...there ARE national parks in D.C. What would the feds run by a repuke congress do then?

[emulatorloo]

3. Patience, my friend. Locals are gonna through them out

Feds are working with locals

[TheMastersNemesis]

8. I Am Sure You Are Correct. Only Time Will Tell.

[Jim Beard]

10. It depends on which news source you listen to or read about.

The employees are ready to go back to work, the elected officials want it over but there are some locals on Bundys side. One rancher brought a huge amount of barbecue and potato salad. They are really stocked with food now. This is very strange.

[Lizzie Poppet]

26. Yep. While most of the locals hate these assholes, some of the ranchers support them.

A fair percentage of the locals are in agreement with some of the seditionists' views on land use (although not the majority, I'd say*). But only a few of the hardcore on that subject, mostly ranchers, actually support the occupation of the refuge. The strong majority opinion locally seems to be that the seditionists need to GTFO.

* Mind you, I'm only a fairly frequent visitor to the area: I live in Portland, five or so hours away.

[Jim Beard]

7. I just don't understand why they are letting it get worse

I understand blocking them off and waiting then out but this? Are there enough locals to make a difference? I just can not figure this out.

[TheMastersNemesis]

9. The Locals Are Becoming Polarized Over This Situation.

The town of Burns is divided over the issue. And there are supposedly strangers in town with unknown agendas. The town itself is kind of a hostage.

[Dems to Win]

11. The Feds don't seem to want it back

Ho hum, they might be willing to take it back if the militia guys don't want it anymore.....

It's ridiculous that they've not even set up a blockade of the site. They're not even trying to minimize the number out there or starve them out.

Shakes head.

[Lorien]

13. It's almost as if the Feds and local law enforcement are in on it

and where is Obama on the issue? Sure, it's not anything urgent, but it's setting a horrible precedent that can only result in more extreme actions by the same extremists. No brown or Muslim group would EVER be permitted to do the same!

[TheMastersNemesis]

16. This Occupation Is A Really Sticky Problem. It Is Almost A No Win For Obama.

The GOP has created such an incendiary atmosphere during this election cycle anything is possible. There is no easy way out of this. And it seems pretty clear the militia will engaged in armed resistance. And casualties will likely happen on both sides.

The GOP is looking for an excuse to start impeachment against Obama. At some point some in the federal government will have to act. It will be a very tough decision.

[TheMastersNemesis]

14. There May Be More To The Occupation Than Meets The Eye So To Speak.

The public does not have access to information the federal government has. The fact that others are filtering into the site is troubling. And the conditions in the town of Burns is foggy. There are reports of surveillance by strangers, intimidation, threats to public employees, et al. Plus anyone going down the road in the sanctuary is warned off.

There is an urgency to take action and end it. But it may not be that simple. The feds may not be taking action for a particular reason, because the situation is potentially very explosive. There is no opportunity to surprise these people because of some local support. Cutting off communication itself would warn the occupiers that something is coming down. There are hotheads in that bunch that will open fire if tested.

It looks like there will be no way to avoid a fight of some kind. And a fight could erupt in Burns itself. If the feds start moving they could get attacked in the town itself.

[msongs]

17. gotta love the feds catering to white gun owner privilege. any of us would be in jail or dead by now

[Downwinder]

19. Little Dixie Warriors still fighting the Civil War or

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any war against the central government. But, nary a peep out of them or their church when that same government targeted them with atomic bombs.

[kentauros]

21. "the federal government ONLY has authority in the District of Columbia"

Well, in that case, mister militia-men, no Bill of Rights for any of you!

[malaise]

23. They're going to be wrong

Most of them were the class dunces

[Javaman]

24. as I have been calling it: the woodstock of the stupids.

this will end, they will be out of there and life will carry on.

how that is achieved is anyone's guess, but frankly, the worst part of the winter is about to hit. Just close off the roads, and let nature do the rest.

[hollowdweller]

25. This is what the state worker should have done in Wisconsin

Gone into the capitol armed and said they were staying there indefinitely till they abandoned Walkers agenda.