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ribrepin

(1,726 posts)
Mon Jan 18, 2016, 07:28 PM Jan 2016

I have a question for anyone around the Burns, Oregon area

The squatters want to return the land to ranchers, miners and loggers. I have never been Southeastern Oregon, but have been to Eastern Washington and Northeastern Oregon and didn't notice a lot of trees. Are there enough trees in the area for logging and what would you mine around there.

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I have a question for anyone around the Burns, Oregon area (Original Post) ribrepin Jan 2016 OP
Gold Claims near by. Wellstone ruled Jan 2016 #1
Thanks ribrepin Jan 2016 #3
I believe there are no privately owned beaches anywhere in the United States... 403Forbidden Jan 2016 #4
Thanks ribrepin Jan 2016 #6
That's correct, all beaches. Bluenorthwest Jan 2016 #14
Only 42% of CA beaches are public and accessible. former9thward Jan 2016 #10
That's kind of what I thought, but wasn't sure ribrepin Jan 2016 #11
Will be in the area in June to Wellstone ruled Jan 2016 #8
Good luck to you! ribrepin Jan 2016 #12
Burns Old Codger Jan 2016 #2
Thanks ribrepin Jan 2016 #5
Good article on the relationships between the fed agencies and stakeholders there... pinboy3niner Jan 2016 #7
Sure hope these knot heads do not Wellstone ruled Jan 2016 #9
Lots of sagebrush, some juniper trees bhikkhu Jan 2016 #13

ribrepin

(1,726 posts)
3. Thanks
Mon Jan 18, 2016, 07:36 PM
Jan 2016

I am starting suspect their master plan is to take over the whole state. Western Oregon has abundant forests and publicly owned beaches. If memory serves me correctly, there are no privately owned beaches in Oregon.

 

403Forbidden

(166 posts)
4. I believe there are no privately owned beaches anywhere in the United States...
Mon Jan 18, 2016, 07:38 PM
Jan 2016

...although there are many landowners in and around Malibu CA who erect fences, signage and other obstacles at the beaches to make it appear to be a private beach.

ribrepin

(1,726 posts)
6. Thanks
Mon Jan 18, 2016, 07:41 PM
Jan 2016

I don't know much about land law. I'm pretty sure the state of Oregon owns all beaches. At least that's what I was told - beautiful beaches.

former9thward

(32,006 posts)
10. Only 42% of CA beaches are public and accessible.
Mon Jan 18, 2016, 07:56 PM
Jan 2016
In all, about 42 percent of the terrestrial coastline is publicly owned and accessible land. The other 58 percent is owned privately, or is held by federal, state or local governments.

http://www.kqed.org/w/coastalclash/recreation.html

IN OR, WA and TX most beaches are public. Along the east coast many private beaches.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/05/opinion/beaches-belong-to-the-public.html?_r=0

ribrepin

(1,726 posts)
11. That's kind of what I thought, but wasn't sure
Mon Jan 18, 2016, 07:59 PM
Jan 2016

I live in Washington state and like our public lands - State and Federal

ribrepin

(1,726 posts)
5. Thanks
Mon Jan 18, 2016, 07:38 PM
Jan 2016

Didn't know that. The areas I have seen are not barren, but have scattered trees. Again thanks for the information.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
9. Sure hope these knot heads do not
Mon Jan 18, 2016, 07:53 PM
Jan 2016

ruin that relationship. We found the local BLM folks really help full. Hope this doesn't change.

bhikkhu

(10,716 posts)
13. Lots of sagebrush, some juniper trees
Mon Jan 18, 2016, 08:06 PM
Jan 2016

and some mixed forest here and there in the mountains



As the saying goes, a rancher in the midwest calculates how many cows per acre his land can support, while a rancher out here calculates how many acres per cow he will need. High desert is inherently fragile land, and Malheur lake being in a basin makes that even more so; degrade the land in summer and the soil washes down into the lake. Next year, no soil, no plants, and a polluted lake. The early ranchers learned that the hard way, and most of the current generation (especially the successful ones) are well-educated in land management and soil and water conservation.

The early settlement in the 1870's was a minor gold rush. Mining is very difficult to do without destroying water quality, which again is even more difficult to manage in a closed basin.

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