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Stephen King: Regarding Flint: "Voter's Beware" (Original Post) kpete Jan 2016 OP
Problem is, a lot of those voters are probably fine with the outcome n2doc Jan 2016 #1
Lead poisoning didn't discriminate - people of all races and ages have been poisoned Siwsan Jan 2016 #2
True. Water is water. Yavin4 Jan 2016 #18
Voters had NOTHING to do with it -- other than electing Snyder. Octafish Jan 2016 #3
They voted in a right winger, no? Bluenorthwest Jan 2016 #5
Thanks for straightening me out. Octafish Jan 2016 #7
So Dillon didn't get the Dem nom, meaning the Dems didn't want him--but Snyder did. valerief Jan 2016 #11
Yep. Going from memory, Dillon didn't campaign much for Bernero. Octafish Jan 2016 #15
the buck stops with Snyder Skittles Jan 2016 #21
The governor's just-resigned Chief of Staff's wife is the PR guru for Nestle the water bandits. Octafish Jan 2016 #22
"The memos Syder released" is the operative phrase here. Snyder has hired a Tanuki Jan 2016 #23
Wait 'til the suits start coming in from the lead-poisoned kids brush Jan 2016 #4
Baltimore is dealing with this issue justiceischeap Jan 2016 #6
I can't believe MuseRider Jan 2016 #8
I feel for you. Folks in Kansas are suffering from Brownback's mistakes and revenue shortfalls brush Jan 2016 #9
Thanks. MuseRider Jan 2016 #12
So, if we can just shrink government down to the point where it can be drowed in a poison world wide wally Jan 2016 #10
I'd only go along with it if they actually drowned the Governor in a bathtub Proserpina Jan 2016 #13
Flint itself generally votes Dem KamaAina Jan 2016 #14
unrec: that's actually the sort of fingerwagging that turns people off MisterP Jan 2016 #16
Been trying to tell my Libertarian/Republican relatives that for years Matariki Jan 2016 #17
mr king the is a book in there for ya....please write it dembotoz Jan 2016 #19
K&R smirkymonkey Jan 2016 #20
He should leave NAFTA out of it reddread Jan 2016 #24
State Gov. wanted weak 'the peoples Federal Government' oversight & this is what happens when a Sunlei Jan 2016 #25

n2doc

(47,953 posts)
1. Problem is, a lot of those voters are probably fine with the outcome
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 10:42 AM
Jan 2016

They don't live in Flint. And they don't like minorities anyway. At least if they are the typical republican-voting asshole.

Siwsan

(26,289 posts)
2. Lead poisoning didn't discriminate - people of all races and ages have been poisoned
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 11:00 AM
Jan 2016

The city of Flint is actually very, both racially and economically. And the down town area is home to branches of The University of Michigan, Michigan State, and also Michigan School for the Deaf, Kettering, Mott Community College and Baker Business College so it is full of students, from all over the world. Many of them living in Flint.

I heard last night that even one of the adjoining cities, Burton, has areas hooked into the Flint water system. Burton is a pretty working class area.

When I was at that rally, on Tuesday night, the crowd was overwhelmingly diverse and pretty much reflected the City of Flint, the State of Michigan and the country, as a whole.

Yavin4

(35,445 posts)
18. True. Water is water.
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 03:34 PM
Jan 2016

If it's bad in one place, it's bad every where. You have no idea where it will wind up.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
3. Voters had NOTHING to do with it -- other than electing Snyder.
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 11:05 AM
Jan 2016

Snyder overruled Flint voters and appointed his own man to govern, an Emergency Manager.

How fascist is that?

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
5. They voted in a right winger, no?
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 11:18 AM
Jan 2016

" When you vote in right-wingers who believe government is the problem, what you get is--ta-da--Flint, Michigan."

So King is saying that voting for Snyder got them Flint. He is correct.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
7. Thanks for straightening me out.
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 11:30 AM
Jan 2016

Except you didn't.

Ever hear of Andy Dillon? After failing to win the Democratic nomination to oppose Snyder in the gubernatorial campaign of 2010, he was invited by Snyder to serve as State Treasurer.

The memos Snyder released say Dillon was the official who made the call to OK the switch to Flint River water.

Dillon said he thought Flint wouldn't be using the water to drink. Honest.

http://www.mlive.com/news/flint/index.ssf/2016/01/former_michigan_state_treasure.html

valerief

(53,235 posts)
11. So Dillon didn't get the Dem nom, meaning the Dems didn't want him--but Snyder did.
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 12:58 PM
Jan 2016

Snyder is still at fault along with the voters who voted for him!

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
15. Yep. Going from memory, Dillon didn't campaign much for Bernero.
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 01:19 PM
Jan 2016

The Freep confirms my recollection:



Ex-rival Andy Dillon slights Virg Bernero

Mich. Democrat leaders: Party is unified


by Chris Christoff
Detroit Free Press,August 7, 2010

House Speaker Andy Dillon was drubbed in the Democratic gubernatorial primary by television ads that portrayed him as a greedy Wall Street raider who opposes a woman's right to choose abortion.

Then he was drubbed by rival Lansing Mayor Virg Bernero in Tuesday's election.

Friday, a visibly relieved Dillon smiled and said he was ready to work for Democrats in the fall campaign.

But he caused a buzz by not endorsing Bernero in front of about 200 Democrats assembled in downtown Detroit for a post-election unity breakfast.

"I want to make certain some of the things I was fighting for are going to be embraced," he told reporters afterward. "Then we'll get there. We don't have to decide that today."

He added, "It's not a slap. We just got done with a campaign. I'm going to take a vacation. We'll sort it out when I come back."


It was another enigmatic move from a politician who has become an iconoclast to some fellow Democrats, scorned by some union leaders as too cozy with business and too frosty with organized labor, and criticized as a legislative leader.

CONTINUED...

http://archive.freep.com/article/20100807/NEWS15/8070314/Ex-rival-Andy-Dillon-slights-Virg-Bernero



Loyalty to the Almighty Dollar is Buy Partisan.

Skittles

(153,176 posts)
21. the buck stops with Snyder
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 10:11 PM
Jan 2016

as with all repukes, their desire to "save money" ends up costing the taxpayers much, much more

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
22. The governor's just-resigned Chief of Staff's wife is the PR guru for Nestle the water bandits.
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 10:31 AM
Jan 2016

What a small Buy Partisan world. Deb Muchmore did have the job years before Snyder hired her husband, but the irony and lead remain. The cozy situations also illustrate what a small world it is when it comes to sharing the public loot legal-like.

From saving money to printing it at others' expense, there is plenty of greed to go around in Michigan on behalf of the ultrarich, such as the DeVos and Koch interests. The only thing that's in short supply is integrity.

Tanuki

(14,920 posts)
23. "The memos Syder released" is the operative phrase here. Snyder has hired a
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 10:40 AM
Jan 2016

professional damage control firm, so I would be skeptical of what information he is selectively releasing at this point.

brush

(53,833 posts)
4. Wait 'til the suits start coming in from the lead-poisoned kids
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 11:09 AM
Jan 2016

Michigan is going to have hemorrhage money for years to settle the suits that will inevitably come.

justiceischeap

(14,040 posts)
6. Baltimore is dealing with this issue
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 11:22 AM
Jan 2016

not from water but lead paint in government housing. I forget the percentage but a LOT of the lower-income kids from a previous generation in Baltimore have been exposed to lead paint poisoning.

MuseRider

(34,115 posts)
8. I can't believe
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 11:32 AM
Jan 2016

this country let this man get away with all he did before this. How on earth could this country let this happen? Replacing elected officials? We knew it would only get worse after that.

Those poor people. Hope those that voted for him learn what it gets you. Spoken from a Kansan, not a bash on them at all. Most here apparently never learn. It seems it is very hard to budge people from their life long party affiliation, even when it gets intolerable.

world wide wally

(21,754 posts)
10. So, if we can just shrink government down to the point where it can be drowed in a poison
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 12:01 PM
Jan 2016

bathtub, then we can rely on corporations to fix everything?
Is that what Republicans hope and work for?

 

Proserpina

(2,352 posts)
13. I'd only go along with it if they actually drowned the Governor in a bathtub
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 01:00 PM
Jan 2016

full of Flint water. Then that plan makes sense.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
14. Flint itself generally votes Dem
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 01:01 PM
Jan 2016

It's the people in other, whiter parts of the Mitten that elected Snyder.

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
16. unrec: that's actually the sort of fingerwagging that turns people off
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 03:27 PM
Jan 2016

if it's a Snyder Pub versus an Emmanuel Dem nobody wins

Matariki

(18,775 posts)
17. Been trying to tell my Libertarian/Republican relatives that for years
Fri Jan 22, 2016, 03:31 PM
Jan 2016

the end-game of what they want is Somalia

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
25. State Gov. wanted weak 'the peoples Federal Government' oversight & this is what happens when a
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 10:55 AM
Jan 2016

State- "self regulates". People are harmed.

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