NO BAIL For Oregon Militia

[ashling]

http://realtimepolitics.com/2016/01/30/no-bail-for-oregon-militia/

This is refreshing. Ammon Bundy, along with 9 others, had their bail hearings Friday and were refused bail due to the fear they will not return for trial. The prosecutor stated that Bundy, et al, lacked ties to Oregon, and due to their previous public postings disavowing the federal court system, we’re too much of a risk to allow bail.

[hifiguy]

1. Surprise, surprise, surprise!!!

[peacebird]

3. True that! And off topic - seeing the photo made me laugh out loud!

I remember hearing him say "SurPRIZE, surPRIZE, surPRIZE!"



Thanks for the memory!

[saltpoint]

2. Have to say I'm pleased with their

getting no bail. They've been pampered enough.

They've had a vacation on federal land plus free snacks and dildos.

Nobody sends the rest of us free vacation deals, never mind snacks and dildos.

[hifiguy]

5. Or even travel expenses and beer money.

[saltpoint]

6. Yeah. We all need to get our demands in

line and submit them. An expense fund for travel and beer money are very high on the list, definitely.

[pinboy3niner]

9. Yes, indeed...

[saltpoint]

13. Poor Kim. She looks a bit dour in

that photo, doesn't she?

In the recent Harper's magazine, here is an exchange between a reporter seeking emails from Davis' office under the Freedom of Information Act:

http://harpers.org/archive/2016/02/slow-feud/

Her recalcitrance is astonishing.

[passiveporcupine]

18. Oh my, that was stunning

Is she afraid of forwarded mail possibly being forwarded to someone else?

Also, if the e-mail being requested is from her personally, isn't it conflict of interest for her to be filling that request? How does anyone know she is being honest in what she sending and how would you check that?

[saltpoint]

19. Very good points. I wish someone had

asked Kim about that. It would have been entertaining to listen to her stammer out a reply.

[passiveporcupine]

20. With that image of her from above in my head the whole time.

[saltpoint]

21. I know. As it is, she's on what, her

fourth marriage?

She's already had more than her share of what's in that bag. No fair hoggin' the supply, Kim.

[Jenny_92808]

22. Evil is

as evil does.

[saltpoint]

24. Yep. She's probably enjoying the "fame"

she's gotten for her "principled" stand.

But to many people, she's a recalcitrant little pissant who isn't doing her job.

[frylock]

17. I just spit pale ale all over my phone

[ffr]

12. hahaha

[RKP5637]

4. Excellent!!! Maybe these guys are learning, I doubt it, that they do not run the public lands!!! n/t

[dmr]

7. Especially it was an armed take over.

They are a danger to a peaceful society.

I hope they never get out, & they lose all their assets.

[99th_Monkey]

8. I'm not sure that may not he reconsidered, reading between the lines

I think the judge's rationale for refusing bail is that "the occupation continues, with 4 militia
hold-overs still at the Refuge. Putting this together with Bundy's video calling for "an end to
the occupation", I find myself wondering if it's a quid pro quo, i.e. if Bundy can talk the remaining
4 to stand-down and leave; then the judge may reconsider the bail thing.

I really hope this isn't the case, because I agree these guys have been given WAY too much
"rope" already, and would still be flight risks even if the 4 hold-outs leave the Refuge.

[Jenny_92808]

25. I think they are home grown

terrorists and they are not called that because they are white men.

[99th_Monkey]

26. I completely agree with you. It's pathetic, racist, and highly hypocritical. n/t

[ffr]

10. Who said government and elected officials don't think with common sense?

I echo the sentiments above. I've ceased buying beef and if I ever find I'm buying something that was produced by the Bundy thieves, I'll gnaw my hand off for reaching into my wallet.

Totally unnecessary drama from adults that act like children.

[Rex]

11. Yeah I wouldn't trust them to do what the government says either.

Who would?

[Electric Monk]

14. Their goal was to occupy a gov't building. They're just occupying a different gov't building now.

[saltpoint]

15. LOL! eom

[whopis01]

28. Lol.

I think it is a decent compromise to give each one of them unfettered access to roughly 6'x9' of Federal property.

[Old Crow]

16. Sensible decision.

It took the feds forever and a day to act, but now that they have, they seem to be handling this correctly. I'm hoping Bundy et al. get very long sentences.

[nikto]

23. But...but...

They're white.


Oh, how can this be?

[L. Coyote]

27. How Hate, Extremism Were Baked Into The ‘Patriot’ Militia Pie

How Hate, Extremism Were Baked Into The ‘Patriot’ Militia Pie
By Matt Osborne on January 26, 2016

This is the first installment of a three-day series on extremist elements participating in the Oregon takeover.

White supremacists have been documented among the armed group holding the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge near Burns, Oregon, but their presence isn’t a surprise to anyone who pays attention to the patriot movement. Racism, anti-Semitism, and separatist organizing have been part of that movement for over a quarter-century. Events at Malheur are not taking place in a vacuum. The residents of Burns, Oregon are right to be worried, for the sons of welfare rancher Cliven Bundy may present their occupation to the world as a ‘wise use’ campaign, but it is not, and there are elements within its ranks whose presence should alarm us all.

Two weeks ago, Oregon Public Broadcasting discovered that David Fry, who seems to serve as the Bundy group’s webmaster and social media presence, is also an outspokenly-racist anti-Semite and militant enthusiast of Adolf Hitler. Hate group monitors have documented at least five different white supremacist tattoos on Rance Harris, who has ’88’ inked on two fingers as a numerical symbol for ‘Heil Hitler.’ Their apparent solidarity with the Bundy cult especially resonates with me after watching the critically-acclaimed documentary Welcome to Leith, which tells the disturbing story of white supremacist Craig Cobb’s 2012 almost-successful attempt to take control of a small North Dakota town. Like the situation at Malheur, law enforcement agencies were unwilling to intervene. ...............

'Hope for Harney County' rally held in Prineville
Participants urge peaceful end to occupation; so does Ammon Bundy
A.J. Kato January 30, 2016
Rally for Harney County
PRINEVILLE, Ore. -

There was a statewide call for action Saturday, coordinated by The Rural Organizing Project in the wake of the week's developments in the refuge occupation ....

.... "We don't want militias to be controlling our government anywhere in Oregon, or rural Oregon," said Human Dignity Advocates of Crook County member Kim Kamvak. ....