Carter would pick Trump over Cruz: “I think I would choose Trump, which may surprise some of you”

[kpete]

If he had to choose between them, “I think I would choose Trump, which may surprise some of you,” he said.

“The reason is, Trump has proven already he’s completely malleable,” Carter said. “I don’t think he has any fixed (positions) he’d go the White House and fight for. On the other hand, Ted Cruz is not malleable. He has far right-wing policies he’d pursue if he became president.”

Carter added that he had a “feeling” that Trump's chances for the presidency would “fade away.”

“When people actually get ready to put on a ballot, ‘This is the person I want to lead me for the next four or eight years, I think they’ll have a little different opinion,’” Carter said.

Ultimately, he said he will support whoever is the Democratic nominee, noting he thinks Hillary Clinton “will still prevail” despite rival Bernie Sanders’s “remarkable showing, particularly among young people.”


http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/268146-carter-would-pick-trump-over-cruz

[sinkingfeeling]

1. Makes sense.

[RichGirl]

4. Two things are obvious regarding Trump:

He says what he thinks his "voters" want to hear.

AND I don't think he understands how moronic and set in their ways republicans are. He only has to slip up once on one of their big issues (climate change a hoax, anti-abortion, homophobia, all muslims are evil terrorists, etc.) and they'll turn on him. Even the slightest mention of better gun laws and he's out.

[former9thward]

19. He says he is for universal health care.

Which is to the left of Hillary and his voters have not turned on him.

TRUMP: I think you have to have it, and, again, I said I’m conservative, generally speaking, I’m conservative, and even very conservative. But I’m quite liberal and getting much more liberal on health care and other things. I really say: What’s the purpose of a country if you’re not going to have defensive and health care? If you can’t take care of your sick in the country, forget it, it’s all over. I mean, it’s no good. So I’m very liberal when it comes to health care. I believe in universal health care. I believe in whatever it takes to make people well and better.

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/420996/trump-2008-bush-evil-talk-iran-obama-cannot-do-worse-bush-jim-geraghty

[Snow Leopard]

29. If Sanders isn't in

I'd vote for Trump it would be entertaining at least

[liberalnarb]

34. You'd vote for trump??

PLEASE DON'T DO THAT!! His comments about Universal Care were made in 2008. He has made no comments about it during the campaign and hasn't campaigned on anything but bigotry.

[former9thward]

46. He has talked it about in 2016.

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Just this week, in fact.

PORTSMOUTH, N.H. — Donald Trump is remaining firm on a sticking point for many Republican voters — government-funded health care for all.

“We do need health care for all people,” Trump said at a rally here this week. “What are we gonna do, let people die in the street?”

This isn’t the first time Trump has taken a health care stance heretical to many in the the GOP. Late last month, he said he wanted to let Medicare negotiate prescription drug prices with pharmaceutical companies. That’s an idea Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders have been pushing. Rank-and-file voters seem to like it, but it’s been anathema to the GOP establishment, which prefers to talk about speeding up drug approvals and spurring competition to bring down prices.

http://www.statnews.com/2016/02/05/trump-cruz-universal-health-care/

[Live and Learn]

35. Jury Results

On Fri Feb 5, 2016, 09:07 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

If Sanders isn't in
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=7587561

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

Advocating for trump is not for this site.

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Fri Feb 5, 2016, 09:15 PM, and the Jury voted 2-5 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: This comment is borderline, but during Primary season, it's just hypotheticals. Once the GE campaign starts, this sort of comment would warrant a hide.


Juror #2 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: Trump? You would vote for Trump???
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: While this was a borderline TOS violation, poster did not in fact openly advocate that Democrats vote for a Republican in order to spite Hillary. He or she merely shared their personal inclination to do so.

Snow Leopard: please keep these thoughts to yourself in the future. Thanks.
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Poster is advocating others do it. Not against TOS.
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: I wouldn't call this ADVOCATING. Good grief, at least try to engage the poster in a discussion before alerting. This poster is not alone in this thread.
Juror #6 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: It's not general election season yet and, "it would be entertaining at least" isn't what I'd call advocating for Trump. This sounds more like idle chatter than advocacy.

Thank you very much for participating in our Jury system, and we hope you will be able to participate again in the future.

[BlueCaliDem]

41. Good thing MIRT stepped in and delivered the Leopard his pizza.

Sadz?

[Live and Learn]

44. What are you babbling about? nt

[one_voice]

45. That's the second person I've seen say that..

both 'new'. I was on a jury earlier today for one. It was hidden, they were nuked.

[BlueCaliDem]

47. You're right.

There were two. Not no more's!

[maindawg]

52. Not true

Last night he took several very liberal positions . He also promised vengeance to throw red meat to HIS base.

[FLPanhandle]

2. Carter is a smart man

I was on the few here not celebrating Trump losing to Cruz in Iowa

[CTyankee]

3. I agree with him. Better a skanky opportunist than a true believer that would burn

you at the stake for heresy...besides, wasn't Trump once a Democrat?

[Agnosticsherbet]

5. Cruz intends to rule as the mouthpiece of God.

With a Republican Congress, and with a Supreme Court packed by him, he could manage to destroy most of what has been created since FDR's first inauguration.

Fanatics are the monsters that keep me awake at night.

[MosheFeingold]

6. Carter is Correct

Trump is very much a populist, with a mix of stupid ideas and progressive ideas (e.g., he is for a single payer healthcare, which is more progressive than Hillary and in line with Bernie).

Half a bag of nuts is better than a full bag.

[Lars39]

7. Yep, Trump is winging it, Cruz has an agenda.

[lame54]

8. I hate it when Carter's wrong...

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not about the trump thing - he's definitely better than cruz

but Bernie has a good chance to take the whole thing

[forest444]

39. Georgia, as you know, is one of the Super Tuesday states (March 1)

I wouldn't be surprised if Jimmy Carter endorses Bernie sometime before then.

Trump, for his part, responded to Carter by saying that "he's got good taste."



The Donald during the Carter years, back when he still had good taste.

[TexasBushwhacker]

58. He was parting his hair by his ear even then

He must have started balding early.

[FlaGranny]

9. I told my

coworkers that I never thought I would say such a thing, but that I would prefer Trump over Cruz and maybe even Rubio. Scary, scary thought that Cruz could get elected.

[7962]

10. Hell, I've seen people saying they'd vote for Trump if Sanders didnt win.

Really. In several places from several people. That how fed up people are

[flamingdem]

36. That shows that some Bernie supporters lack critical thinking ability

big time.

[JoeyT]

40. Because PUMAs were never a thing for Clinton supporters. n/t

[flamingdem]

43. That was also stupid nt

[Herman4747]

11. Me too! nt

[TBF]

12. I agree with him - Cruz is very dangerous. nt

[santafe52]

13. Trump has no particular plans, platform or ideas.

Everything he does is for self-promotion. He's a multi-billion dollar circus act and the 2nd biggest fool in American political history (nobody beats Sarah for that top spot).

Again, he's not our problem. Our problem is that 30% of the Republican Party is stupid enough to support him.

[malthaussen]

14. When he's right, he's right.

And I am not completely confident that Mr Cruz would not take advantage of the office of POTUS to immanentize the Eschaton. I personally think he is running a con, and has no real convictions, but other and wiser heads say otherwise. If he is a True Believer, then I want him nowhere near the nuclear codes.

-- Mal

[rladdi]

15. Senator Ted Cruz win would be the destruction of America and its people. That is his mission along

with his father.

[alfredo]

16. Trump wouldn't try to impose Mosaic law on America.

[Bettie]

17. I think he'd be less horrifying than Cruz

or Rubio, because he is not a religious nutjob.

He would still be horrible.

[ancianita]

18. With Carter on this. But I'd also be really, really careful to look at Trump's VP pick.

[KamaAina]

23. Don't look too closely!

[alarimer]

20. So would I, if those were my only choices.

Donald Trump is a buffoon and a blowhard, but Cruz is dangerous. He is Joe McCarthy and J. Edgar Hoover wrapped in one frightening package.

[a2liberal]

21. I agree

Trump is a clown. Cruz is an incredibly scary ideologue who believes God has sent him to take the wealth that has been stored by the "unrighteous" and give it to the "righteous" (which in his worldview is right-wingers). He openly doesn't believe in the separation of church and state and if you really want a good scare watch some of the revival meeting type videos with him and his father.

[Skittles]

22. while that does make sense

it is still like picking the better Menendez brother

[maddiemom]

30. Whichever was the "better Menendez," I'd have to think hard about it ---

if Cruz were the only other choice.

[Skittles]

31. Cruz is a sociopath, Trump is an extreme narcissist, and Rubio is just plain right-wing whacked

there is no good choice there - this is what the Greedy Old Pig party has become

[NightWatcher]

24. I'd take Crazy over Crazy Fundie any day too

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

25. This is exactly where I stand. DU should very concerned about Cruz and Rubio.

[WDIM]

26. Cruz wants a theocracy.

He would be willing to cut off hands and pluck out eyeballs that offend. He is part of the radical christian right. Thats only a step away from the radical muslim right.

[thereismore]

27. Me too. Cruz is insane. Trump is sane by comparison. nt

[mwrguy]

28. Cruz is the biggest threat since Reagan

[maddiemom]

32. But thankfully without the folksy "charm."

[roamer65]

50. He's a bigger threat than Raygun. N/t

[SleeplessinSoCal]

33. the young people he commented on supporting Sanders

Are the very activists needed to bring the revolution to the legislature. Get that horse before the cart by electing more democratic socialists who are willing to change the economic system legally and not have Bernie accused of being "Obama on Steroids".

[flamingdem]

37. Please shoot down any Bernie supporter who indicates they'll support Trump

if Bernie doesn't run.

Some people on DU and elsewhere are really that dumb.

Our culture has created a mass of imbeciles who lack critical thinking ability.

It sucks. We may have to pay the price.

[davidthegnome]

38. Most of those people...

don't read very much about the policies, or about what's actually going on. Most of them either don't care, or don't have the time to educate themselves. Don't just shoot them down - if it's at all possible, we need to educate. Tell people WHY they should vote for the democratic nominee over Trump, should it come to that.

The current divide here and all the crap flinging - which I have recently engaged in myself, is one thing... but I'm going to support the democratic nominee, regardless of who it is and who my personal preference is. We cannot afford a President Trump, a President Cruz, or a President Rubio. I agree with Carter that Cruz would be far, far worse than Trump. Trump is still extremely bad, so I'm not even sure there's a word for how bad Cruz would be. "Scary" doesn't come close.

[LiberalAndProud]

42. Take it to GD: P.

The OP is about two alternatives, neither of which is Bernie.

[joshcryer]

49. They are not on DU that I know of.

Some are on DI.

[flamingdem]

54. There was one

on this thread going in that direction.

[greenman3610]

48. Carter knows what it's like to be villified by the

Left wing of his own party

[yeoman6987]

51. Doesn't shock me

I don't want Cruz near the Oval Office. He is dangerous with his religion talk.

[woodsprite]

53. If support Trump before if support that oily Dominionist. n/t

[kiva]

55. Cruz is a true believer,

and scares me.

[TheCowsCameHome]

56. Cruz sees this as a badge of honor.

Sad that he will try to use it to his advantage.

[aikoaiko]

57. I fully expect nominee Trump to dash for the center before nominee Clinton has a chance

If that ends up being the pair.

[ProfessorGAC]

59. Yep

The guy has spent his whole adult life deal making. Right now, he's making a deal with the devil to appeal to the silliness crowd, and likely doesn't believe a word that comes out of his own mouth.

He reminds me of Glenn Close in the Big Chill where she looks at Mary Kay Place, after talking on the phone with her daughter, and says "Sometimes i can't believe the things i hear myself say!"