7 people were murdered randomly in Kalamazoo, MI tonight while DU looks the other way

[LonePirate]

http://www.breakingnews.com/topic/kalamazoo-mich-shootings-feb-2016/

Where are our priorities? I am ashamed by DU for not giving a damn about this tragedy in Michigan tonight.

[geomon666]

1. It is 3AM on the East Coast.

Midnight on the West. Most people are asleep.

[Journeyman]

2. This story has been under discussion for over 3 hours. Where have you been? . . .

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027627958

I won't insult you for being uncaring, nor question your priorities, but simply point out you have neither a monopoly on moral outrage nor the only grasp on current events.

[LonePirate]

4. I rec'ed that thread over 2 hours ago. How many threads do we have on Huerta compared to this?

Ultimately, which is more important?

[Skittles]

10. hysteria over Hillary, er, trumps all here

[Erich Bloodaxe BSN]

52. Huerta.

If you really want to go there, so be it.

Those seven people are dead. They can't be made alive again. Their passing will be mourned by their immediate families and friends, noted by many others, and NOTHING will be done to end the scourge of gun violence in America as a result of their deaths.

The results of the Presidential race, on the other hand, will have profound effects on the lives of every single American, as well as many people overseas. Will we get a candidate who takes climate change seriously? Will we get one who initiates MORE wars, MORE drone strikes on people around the world?

Swiftboating attacks on one of the two candidates by the other candidate using racially inflammatory lies out of the mouths of 'iconic' civil liberties activists can have a profound effect on who wins the nomination, so challenging them quickly and debunking them and spreading that debunking widely and quickly is vital to the course of the election cycle, ad thus to determining who will be the President who decides whether we as a nation prioritize killing foreigners or working to mitigate the damage climate change is doing to the world.

[Warpy]

55. Wow, you mean people were SLEEPING THROUGH IT in the middle of the night?

How absolutely tacky of DUers to sleep at night! For SHAME!

[Crunchy Frog]

3. It's another normal day in America.

The price we pay for freedom.

[ScreamingMeemie]

6. I have read this on several different threads.

I do think DU can manage more than one topic.

[JI7]

7. what do you want people to do ?

[Judi Lynn]

8. It IS a big, ugly, filthy, evil deal. Hope the gun folks are proud of their mark on our world. nt

[Skittles]

9. GUN HUMPERS WON

MASS SHOOTINGS HAVE BEEN NORMALIZED

[Ken Burch]

11. Didn't know of it until now. Thank you for posting. n/t.

[Deuce]

12. Saw it on an earlier thread...

Police say the suspect was arrested at about 12:40 a.m. at Ransom and Porter streets in Kalamazoo. According to Michigan State Police, the suspect is a 45-year-old white man from Kalamazoo. Police said weapons were found in his vehicle.

"These are random murders," Matyas said. “This is your worst case scenario."

http://fox17online.com/2016/02/20/police-man-randomly-shooting-in-kalamazoo-co-dead/?utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook_FOX_17

[cwydro]

13. Well, I'm so sorry that I was fast asleep by the time this hit the news.

6:30 am now, and I'm learning about it via DU. Yours is actually the third thread I saw it on.

Some of us don't have the TV on 24/7. Some of us have actual real life lives that we're living.

Somehow coming onto a website and posting in indignation will help anything?

Chill out.

[underahedgerow]

14. What's to discuss? Have more silent threads? 'OMG what an awful person!' 'This is TERRIBLE!'

So what is new here? This happens every. single. day.

Angry white males, slaughtering females.

It's violence overload.

We can't keep doing the same thing over and over and expect different results....

[Photographer]

15. Thou shalt not speak ill of gunz.

For fear of gun lovers that might kill you.

[pintobean]

17. Yet, you fearlessly made that post.

[SickOfTheOnePct]

19. Yep

I'll ask now - what proposed gun control law would have prevented this shooting?

[tabasco]

20. Ask England, Australia and Japan, etc.

They seem to have figured it out.

[SickOfTheOnePct]

21. No one is proposing banning guns here

At least that's what we're always told - so, which of the proposed gun laws in THIS country would have prevented this shooting?

[tabasco]

22. I propose banning handguns and semi-auto rifles.

So you can't say that anymore.

[GGJohn]

24. Yeah, good luck with that proposal. eom.

[tabasco]

40. Thank you.

All it will take is a rational supreme court, rational legislators and a rational president. Possible, even in America.

[GGJohn]

42. Never going to happen,

but you hang on to that if it makes you all warm and fuzzy inside.

[tabasco]

43. Yes, it will. The US lags behind the rest of the civilized world

but eventually catches up.

You will be able to defend your home and play in your militia with all the bolt actions and shotguns you can afford.

[GGJohn]

45. Uh huh, been hearing that for decades now,

yet firearm laws are getting more liberal, all 50 states now have some sort of concealed carry law, more states, including mine, are now allowing for Constitutional Carry, etc.
So, tell us again how your pipe dream is coming to fruition?

[GGJohn]

25. And that would have prevented this shooting.....how? eom.

[tabasco]

39. The vast majority of gun crimes, including this one, involve handguns

Why don't you figure it out for yourself?

[GGJohn]

41. So, you would deny the majority of law abiding citizen's the right to own handguns

because of the few that use them in crimes?



The vast majority of handguns in this country will never be used illegally or negligently so why punish us?

[tabasco]

44. Yes, sort of like citizens are now "denied the right" to own hand grenades and rocket launchers.

Thanks for asking.

[GGJohn]

46. You are aware that private citizens can own hand grenades and rocket launchers?

You have to go through the ATF background check and pay the $200.00 tax stamp, but you can own them, and a rocket launcher is nothing more than a fiberglass tube, which you can buy at any Army/Navy surplus store.

NEXT?

[SickOfTheOnePct]

28. Purposely obtuse

is not a good look for you.

But to play along, which of the proposals put forth by the President or Democratic politicians, would have stopped this shooting.

[Photographer]

37. I certainly did. When there are people running lose on the street like this

Americans have no business with easy access to firearms.

[Tommy_Carcetti]

16. I literally had no idea this happened until I read this thread.

It's not like the news networks were covering this last night. When did this even happen?

Why are you scolding DU about this?

[ileus]

18. Some folks are asleep at night.

[Nuclear Unicorn]

23. Lots of evil things happen in the world. Where are *your* posts about them?

[GGJohn]

26. Your outrage is duly noted. eom.

[Logical]

32. Your "no big deal" attitude is the main issue with you. You are here MAINLY to defend gun posts. nt

[GGJohn]

33. Says you, which I don't really care what you think my main reason

for being here is.
Have a nice Sunday.

[Logical]

35. Just to make it look more real, maybe post something like "this is a terrible tragedy" now and then.

[LittleBlue]

47. +1

The primary was last night, people had their attention elsewhere.

This whole shaming culture can fuck right off.

[Android3.14]

27. Shame yourself

What an awful OP. Friggin' hypocrite.

[Orrex]

29. I count four threads on this subject prior to yours

Maybe you missed them while you were looking the other way and scolding everyone for failing to attack your particular target for outrage.

[Dirty Socialist]

30. Nothing from Yahoo news

Yahoo news has nothing about it. Complain there.

[etherealtruth]

36. on the front page of Yahoo and has been

http://news.yahoo.com/us-shooter-michigan-kills-least-six-local-media-053840082.html

[madville]

31. 85 Black and Hispanic people murdered

In Chicago in the last 7 weeks and we don't hear much about that. People are only supposed to be outraged if it's white people I guess.

[Lizzie Poppet]

38. It only matters if it can be used to drive an agenda.

Those brown people? Not agenda-worthy, apparently...

[gollygee]

49. We don't know if the people killed were white

Kalamazoo is a very diverse city.

[Democat]

34. While you were posting, people were killed somewhere in the world

And you didn't know or care.

[Vinca]

48. We give a damn. So where does that get us? Nowhere.

The same thing will be repeated somewhere in this country today - probably multiple times. This is the new America. Everyone is a target and as long as the GOP has a stronghold on gerrymandered House districts, we'll remain targets.

[Blue_In_AK]

50. The shooter wasn't Muslim. n/t

[EdwardBernays]

51. That's America

en masse Americans have agreed that there's nothing to do about it... no presidential candidates are offering much more than rhetoric or lip service... the media only cares as it's good for ratings and why would mass shooting #382310148 be any different?

[Initech]

53. Thanks gun nuts!!

[Eleanors38]

54. Are you chastising the Guns Discussion forum, or what?

DU has two groups and, IMO, one defacto guns forum in which to post tragedies like this. If you can't pump up a discussion via these outlets, then I don't know what to suggest.



Over the years, the best way to get a flood of gun-talk is through:

1). A mass murder (usually in a school)

2). Murders committed through using Gunz™. (Other methodologies need not apply.)


Little is mentioned of other mass killings, esp. If the victims/killers are minority. But you will have to discuss these "priorities" with the banners. Good luck with that, as you wll have to penetrate layers of Narrative and character insult.

Please note that last year I broached discussion of a mass murder in Houston in which nine (9) people died, wondering why it hadn't provoked a sunami of gun-humping, ammosexual stuff, and penis talk; after all, the murderer used a gun. Alas, he and his victims were black, so it was BAU.