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Unintentionally REVEALING STATEMENT from Gov. Nikki Haley (Original Post) kpete Feb 2016 OP
Principles? We don't need no stinking principles! Octafish Feb 2016 #1
I've always considered it a rather strange mind that loves "principles"... malthaussen Feb 2016 #4
White Power. Octafish Feb 2016 #8
And the Civil War was a labor action. malthaussen Feb 2016 #9
Ignorance is bliss. Kip Humphrey Feb 2016 #2
I don't know what they are worried about - they have gone WAY RIGHT Laura PourMeADrink Feb 2016 #3
Goes back farther than that lapislzi Feb 2016 #7
it may not be new but it has dramatically skewed right since mccain. nt Laura PourMeADrink Feb 2016 #12
Maybe they should just close their eyes........nt 2naSalit Feb 2016 #5
'The Part of No' apparently is also the 'Party of Don't Go There.' Gidney N Cloyd Feb 2016 #6
That can be interpreted different ways. malthaussen Feb 2016 #10
Introspection is not something Republicans practice. alfredo Feb 2016 #18
Interesting. That's why Establishment Dems are scared of Bernie as well. stillwaiting Feb 2016 #11
For sure Old Codger Feb 2016 #13
OMG, so tweeting and reposting this elsewhere. Amimnoch Feb 2016 #14
Hardly news... Wounded Bear Feb 2016 #15
I think she means they don't want to admit who they are and what they're about. tclambert Feb 2016 #16
Damn, that is telling!!! n/t Herman4747 Feb 2016 #17
It's so hard these days to not focus on the ugly in that party to see the good points like... ah... Johonny Feb 2016 #19
About effin' time malaise Feb 2016 #20
Dear Nikki and GOP: You reap what you sow. DinahMoeHum Feb 2016 #21
They could do with a little self-examination . . . MrModerate Mar 2016 #22
one thing republicans can't be accused of.....looking inward. spanone Mar 2016 #23
LOL! I think y'all already know what you are about. GoCubsGo Mar 2016 #24
admitting the existence of their dog whistles hurts. pansypoo53219 Mar 2016 #25

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
1. Principles? We don't need no stinking principles!
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 11:33 AM
Feb 2016

“Great ambition is the passion of a great character. Those endowed with it may perform very good or bad acts. All depends on the principles which direct them.” ― Napoléon Bonaparte

malthaussen

(17,193 posts)
4. I've always considered it a rather strange mind that loves "principles"...
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 11:45 AM
Feb 2016

... regardless of what they are. I remember so many claiming they supported George Bush because "he had principles." The fact that his principles were appalling didn't seem to matter. Well, Mr Trump is a candidate of great principle. His principal isn't bad, either.

It is a curious mental short-circuit, though, isn't it? Really, what they're saying is that they admire ambition. Just as so many seem to confuse bullying with strength.

-- Mal

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
8. White Power.
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 12:22 PM
Feb 2016

Agree absolutely, Mal. Bullies fear, perhaps more than anyone, pain.

“Men are Moved by two levers only: fear and self interest.” ― Napoléon Bonaparte


Today, Trump benefits from those who fear a "colored nation" where the White race has become a demographic minority. They tie their ambitions to remain in power to the poseur who promises to bring them along. Perhaps his supporters never heard Kenny Boy Lay encouraging his minions to keep buying ENRON stock as it became worthless. THAT is how men of ambition treat others, like chattel.

Genocide, claiming millions of Native Americans and other peoples and nations on six continents for centuries is never mentioned on television and seldom mentioned in history class. Otherwise, young people will question Authority.

malthaussen

(17,193 posts)
9. And the Civil War was a labor action.
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 12:30 PM
Feb 2016

See what happens when slaves demand a minimum wage?

One thing this election season has really driven home for me is how desperately a sizeable segment of the population craves authority -- on both sides of the aisle. Especially inasmuch as such a love of authority is supposed to be at odds with the American genius. While there have always been those who had eyes enough to see the fallacy of this propaganda, it is really devilish hard to spin it any other way now. Not that they won't try.

-- Mal

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
3. I don't know what they are worried about - they have gone WAY RIGHT
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 11:40 AM
Feb 2016

since McCain. Geez - you can pin the start of the demise to the wacko right to Palin

lapislzi

(5,762 posts)
7. Goes back farther than that
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 12:22 PM
Feb 2016

You'd need to go back 40 years to watch Lee Atwater sowing the wind. Now we're reaping the whirlwind. This is not new.

malthaussen

(17,193 posts)
10. That can be interpreted different ways.
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 12:33 PM
Feb 2016

Is Mrs Haley talking about a crisis of conscience, or a crisis of expedience? My money is on the latter. That is, she isn't worried that the GOP will question its principles, but its procedures.

-- Mal

alfredo

(60,071 posts)
18. Introspection is not something Republicans practice.
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 03:05 PM
Feb 2016

they are good at learning the wrong lesson. Look at how they responded to losing the Latino vote.

stillwaiting

(3,795 posts)
11. Interesting. That's why Establishment Dems are scared of Bernie as well.
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 12:39 PM
Feb 2016

Don't want to question who we are and what we're about. Indeed.

Wounded Bear

(58,648 posts)
15. Hardly news...
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 01:27 PM
Feb 2016

anyone remember the Republican "autopsy" after the Obama debacle? Back when they determined that they were headed for a cliff if they didn't adopt some more inclusive "principles?" Full of shit about how they had to appeal more to minorities?

I think it's probably on a shelf somewhere, gathering dust.

Hey, Nikki! Your guys already did this, and went entirely in the opposite direction.

tclambert

(11,085 posts)
16. I think she means they don't want to admit who they are and what they're about.
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 01:59 PM
Feb 2016

Stick to the code words!

Johonny

(20,840 posts)
19. It's so hard these days to not focus on the ugly in that party to see the good points like... ah...
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 04:19 PM
Feb 2016

honestly what does the GOP stand for anymore? They're all in it for the money. I love listening to these people pretend they're above Trump and the "racist" message is not there message. That's the only thing the party has left. They suck at economics, taxes, religious freedom, homeland security... all they got left is hate.

GoCubsGo

(32,080 posts)
24. LOL! I think y'all already know what you are about.
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 05:25 PM
Mar 2016

I think what you really meant to say is that you are afraid that the suckers who have been voting for you all these decades will questioning what you are about.

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