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Trump must not be allowed anywhere near the White House. (Original Post) CaliforniaPeggy Mar 2016 OP
Is Cruz better? Renew Deal Mar 2016 #1
I don't think Cruz is any better, actually. CaliforniaPeggy Mar 2016 #4
I agree Renew Deal Mar 2016 #7
And Rubio is putty waiting to be molded by the GOP leaders. herding cats Mar 2016 #5
Agree Renew Deal Mar 2016 #8
Cruz is the absolute worse of the pack Albertoo Mar 2016 #10
As a Texan, narnian60 Mar 2016 #34
Cruz is....how should I phrase it.....not better. But Trump is the nightmare to be afraid of. Tommy_Carcetti Mar 2016 #39
Cruz is better Yupster Mar 2016 #40
I see no difference in ANY of the GOP candidates. They're all dangerous. nt valerief Mar 2016 #2
I agree: they are all dangerous. CaliforniaPeggy Mar 2016 #6
You really think that someone who builds buildings former9thward Mar 2016 #18
Well, excuse me. CaliforniaPeggy Mar 2016 #21
Trumps experience can fit into a box of cereal. FarPoint Mar 2016 #29
Hahahaha. narnian60 Mar 2016 #35
Do you really think Donny does all that leg work himself? Bluenorthwest Mar 2016 #37
And??? former9thward Mar 2016 #38
No No I think it's more about you. Stop trying to prop up Trump rockfordfile Mar 2016 #46
They need to coalesce behind one candidate who espouses ALL their values. dchill Mar 2016 #26
Mind boggling ! imanamerican63 Mar 2016 #3
The other clowns merely make Kasich seem viable. dchill Mar 2016 #27
What did he call it, the "diminished military"? Gregorian Mar 2016 #9
I didn't hear the debate, so I don't know what he called it... CaliforniaPeggy Mar 2016 #11
I understand. Gregorian Mar 2016 #16
He's the least bad of a horrible lot Orangepeel Mar 2016 #12
I find it hard to tell whether or not he means all the crazy stuff he is saying. CaliforniaPeggy Mar 2016 #14
Well, yeah. But I know for sure that Cruz means it. Orangepeel Mar 2016 #36
Amen, California Peggy JohnnyLib2 Mar 2016 #13
I agree with you! CaliforniaPeggy Mar 2016 #15
Cruz is 10 times more dangerous than trump! Nt Logical Mar 2016 #17
i agree. when he said he'd carpet bomb DesertFlower Mar 2016 #32
Yup! However, my friend... longship Mar 2016 #19
kasich is the most sane one, but DesertFlower Mar 2016 #33
You're not going to find any Republican nominee for president Yupster Mar 2016 #41
pataki is but he didn't get DesertFlower Mar 2016 #43
Kasich is just as bad as any other republican rockfordfile Mar 2016 #44
I keep trying to assure myself that the voters know better. lpbk2713 Mar 2016 #20
And Ronnie... 3catwoman3 Mar 2016 #30
Yep, that too. lpbk2713 Mar 2016 #31
He's so dangerous. People won't admit just how dangerous. DemocraticWing Mar 2016 #22
Cruz is even more dangerous. he is a Christian Reconstructionist/Dominionist. Look it up. kath Mar 2016 #23
Oh yeah - His idea of religious freedom is... dchill Mar 2016 #28
Actually you are wrong on that. KentuckyWoman Mar 2016 #45
Funny, I don't feel wrong about it, at all. dchill Mar 2016 #47
Oh trust me on this one. KentuckyWoman Mar 2016 #48
Actually Cruz is crazier Cali_Democrat Mar 2016 #24
I'd feel better if we had the House and Senate Blaukraut Mar 2016 #25
He epitomizes the term "loose cannon" ... eppur_se_muova Mar 2016 #42
As long as there is still electronic voting AwakeAtLast Mar 2016 #49

CaliforniaPeggy

(149,616 posts)
4. I don't think Cruz is any better, actually.
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 12:19 AM
Mar 2016

But the rest of the clowns at least know how government works, more or less.

Trump has no idea.

herding cats

(19,564 posts)
5. And Rubio is putty waiting to be molded by the GOP leaders.
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 12:19 AM
Mar 2016

All three up there tonight were dangerous as hell to our country!

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,182 posts)
39. Cruz is....how should I phrase it.....not better. But Trump is the nightmare to be afraid of.
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 11:37 AM
Mar 2016

Cruz has alienated so many people--including his own party--that while he has his radical ideology, I don't see a good amount of it being implemented. And what I would foresee is a very ineffective president who does a lot of whining but achieves very little, and we'd have a good shot after 4 years of getting back in there.

However, as crazy and radical as Cruz seems, he does seem more or less constrained by the political process and the checks and balances of the office. So while Cruz himself might seem scary, the prospect of him being President isn't quite as scary because I think he'd have a lot of factors working against him.

On the other hand, Trump has never been elected to any political office, but even worse, he is almost certainly clinically Cluster B, who is rash to make decisions, refuses to take criticism, and acts out in fits of rage against even the most mild of criticism. He doesn't like being told what to do, and that would include Congress, the Supreme Court, the Constitution, or anyone or anything else. We're talking about someone is literally mentally unstable in a malicious way, and that scares the everliving bejesus out of me.

Yupster

(14,308 posts)
40. Cruz is better
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 11:45 AM
Mar 2016

Trump doesn't give any indication that he even understands the basic tenets of a republican form of government. Cruz understands the Constitution. You may not agree with an interpretation he has, but he respects it. Trump will ignore it.

In the last two days he's said the following

If the Speaker Of The House doesn't get along with him, the Speaker will have to pay a big price.

If he orders the generals to commit war crimes, you bet they'd do it because he told them to.


Yes, Trump is much worse than Cruz.

CaliforniaPeggy

(149,616 posts)
6. I agree: they are all dangerous.
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 12:21 AM
Mar 2016

But somehow Trump is more dangerous than the rest.

I guess it's because he lacks any gov't. experience or diplomatic skills.

former9thward

(32,006 posts)
18. You really think that someone who builds buildings
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 01:08 AM
Mar 2016

in NYC and DC has no government experience or diplomatic skills? That says a lot about you. Do you know how many permits, inspections, zoning changes, etc. are required? Attack him on his political positions but your position is ridiculous.

FarPoint

(12,368 posts)
29. Trumps experience can fit into a box of cereal.
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 02:10 AM
Mar 2016

The local dog catcher is more qualified. Trump is a bully.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
37. Do you really think Donny does all that leg work himself?
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 09:52 AM
Mar 2016

Do you think he also reps all of the Trump Models at his Modeling Agency? Makes all the beds at his hotels?
http://www.trumpmodels.com/

imanamerican63

(13,790 posts)
3. Mind boggling !
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 12:19 AM
Mar 2016

After tonight I don't think any of them are worthy of the honor of being in the White House, maybe Kasich, but prefer a Democrat!

dchill

(38,491 posts)
27. The other clowns merely make Kasich seem viable.
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 02:00 AM
Mar 2016

He is governor of Ohio - it's close to completely fracked, undertaxed and riding on some of the shakiest infrastructure in modern civilization. He is a former FOX News host and a nearly complete dufus.

There have already been way enough mild-mannered wingnuts.

Gregorian

(23,867 posts)
9. What did he call it, the "diminished military"?
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 12:22 AM
Mar 2016

Whatever it was, I don't want to even think about his version of what a fully prepared military looks like. I'm not prepared to even think about what happens if things don't go the way they should in a coherent society. It's stressful, no doubt.

CaliforniaPeggy

(149,616 posts)
11. I didn't hear the debate, so I don't know what he called it...
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 12:24 AM
Mar 2016

I want our society to stay coherent!

If he were to be our President, there wouldn't be any coherence.

My stress level caused me to write my post.

Gregorian

(23,867 posts)
16. I understand.
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 12:47 AM
Mar 2016

It's frightening. I just keep getting glimpses that say it's not going to be as bad as it could. But we'll see. Take care.

Orangepeel

(13,933 posts)
12. He's the least bad of a horrible lot
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 12:28 AM
Mar 2016

Given a choice between someone who says horrible, scary shit and may or may not believe it, someone who says horrible, scary shit and I know really believes it...

CaliforniaPeggy

(149,616 posts)
14. I find it hard to tell whether or not he means all the crazy stuff he is saying.
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 12:38 AM
Mar 2016

That is the crux of my worries about him.

JohnnyLib2

(11,212 posts)
13. Amen, California Peggy
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 12:34 AM
Mar 2016

Even more reason for Democrats to pull together as soon as our candidate is selected.
Trump as president would lead to chaos internationally. The others are just as alarming in their own ways....

K & R

CaliforniaPeggy

(149,616 posts)
15. I agree with you!
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 12:40 AM
Mar 2016

He sure would lead to chaos.

He makes the others look almost sane by comparison, and that is so frightening.

Thanks for the rec!

DesertFlower

(11,649 posts)
32. i agree. when he said he'd carpet bomb
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 02:19 AM
Mar 2016

and make the sands glow that scared me.

trump said "you don't wanna know what i'd do -- you don't wanna know". i think he get advice before bombing a country.

he doesn't answer questions directly because he doesn't have the answers. like how is he going to get mexico to pay for a wall?

longship

(40,416 posts)
19. Yup! However, my friend...
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 01:13 AM
Mar 2016

None of them should be allowed!

Cruz is a mad end timer lunatic.
Rubio is dumb and clueless.
Trump is just egotistical empty suit who really thinks he know stuff.
Carson would be the least of our worries because he'd likely sleep through his four year term.

They are all very, very bad!

That's why we have to unite against them, no matter who the Dem nominee is.

As always.

DesertFlower

(11,649 posts)
33. kasich is the most sane one, but
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 02:21 AM
Mar 2016

is terrible on a woman's right to choose. actually they're all bad on that. they want to turn back the clock.

lpbk2713

(42,757 posts)
20. I keep trying to assure myself that the voters know better.
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 01:14 AM
Mar 2016



None of these sleazebags are worthy of holding public office.

But then I start to worry when I remember they voted Dumbya in ... twice.

DemocraticWing

(1,290 posts)
22. He's so dangerous. People won't admit just how dangerous.
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 01:44 AM
Mar 2016

He's going to force the military to commit war crimes?! This stuff is a new level of open evil.

dchill

(38,491 posts)
28. Oh yeah - His idea of religious freedom is...
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 02:03 AM
Mar 2016

The religious get to snuff out all freedom. And feel sooooo righteous about it!

KentuckyWoman

(6,679 posts)
45. Actually you are wrong on that.
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 04:02 PM
Mar 2016

Cruz believes in religious freedom. He's totally OK with the choice to fall in the floor and twitch or fall in the floor and lay still when hit by the Holy Ghost. You are also free to raise either the right or left hand when giving praise to God when you go to church. (and you WILL go to church).

KentuckyWoman

(6,679 posts)
48. Oh trust me on this one.
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 05:11 PM
Mar 2016

If Cruz is elected you WILL go to church even if it requires you to be taken into custody and forced to sit through church just before you are dispatched to the underworld.

YOU . WILL . GO . TO . CHURCH


And just to be sure we are on the same page here.


(but only partly so - I half believe Creepy Cruz would try it)

Blaukraut

(5,693 posts)
25. I'd feel better if we had the House and Senate
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 01:48 AM
Mar 2016

But I don't trust the Republicans in either to curb Trump in any way. They'll let him do whatever the hell he wants.

eppur_se_muova

(36,262 posts)
42. He epitomizes the term "loose cannon" ...
Fri Mar 4, 2016, 02:13 PM
Mar 2016

In the days of wooden ships and iron men , a loose cannon referred to a cannon whose carriage had slipped out of its proper position in the gun port and was free to roll around the deck of the ship as it swayed and rolled, crushing and injuring the gunners and sailors. Thus a loose cannon is 'one of our own' who is out of control and inflicting casualties on his own side.

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