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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhat happened to exit polls? They use to be the canary in the coal mine for election fraud
In 2004 Bush vs. Kerry, exit polls showed the exact opposite of election results.
Because of this, the media determined that exit polls were inaccurate and discontinued them completely.
Now we have absolutely no way to check to see if our elections are valid, and if they have been getting away with manufacturing consent and stealing elections for this long...why would they stop now?
JHB
(37,161 posts)...so obviously it was the exit polls that were wrong. Why do you hate America? 911! 911!
2pooped2pop
(5,420 posts)mainstream media refused to report it. Bird not replaced. Canary still dead.
DCKit
(18,541 posts)Then, it was enforced by the Supremes.
slackmaster
(60,567 posts)It's called a "recount," and any verifiable system allows for it. A recount is inherently more accurate than exit polling because the sample size is 100% of the votes.
The real purpose of exit polling is to generate news buzz.
SharonAnn
(13,777 posts)re-running a computer program.
slackmaster
(60,567 posts)By hand.
zbdent
(35,392 posts)after the fact ...
We Want Peace
(205 posts)n/t
slackmaster
(60,567 posts)shcrane71
(1,721 posts)We Want Peace
(205 posts)n/t
shcrane71
(1,721 posts)We Want Peace
(205 posts)Gabi Hayes
(28,795 posts)or refused to cover it honestly
if you google VNS, you only get one side of the story
try the DU google links and take a stroll down memory lane:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/searchresults.html?q=VNS+voter+exit+polls&sitesearch=democraticunderground.com&sa=Search%21&domains=democraticunderground.com&client=pub-7805397860504090&forid=1&ie=ISO-8859-1&oe=ISO-8859-1&cof=GALT%3A%23008000%3BGL%3A1%3BDIV%3A%23336699%3BVLC%3A663399%3BAH%3Acenter%3BBGC%3AFFFFFF%3BLBGC%3A336699%3BALC%3A0000FF%3BLC%3A0000FF%3BT%3A000000%3BGFNT%3A0000FF%3BGIMP%3A0000FF%3BFORID%3A11&hl=en
Marr
(20,317 posts)watching CNN, and they were discussing exactly the issue you mentioned-- this whole panel of "experts" all agreed how exit polling just wasn't reliable, and obviously couldn't be cited as an indicator of election fraud anymore. Then the host (Wolf Blitzer, IIRC) turned *DIRECTLY* to the Russian elections, where he explained that the vote had obviously been rigged, since the exit polls showed different results.
He literally changed positions on the subject in the next breath, and his "experts" just nodded along in agreement.
pnwmom
(108,980 posts)but here.
We Want Peace
(205 posts)This is why we must occupy the media. A democracy cannot exit without a free press.
Now we have Koch brothers blatantly paying for elections, the majority of that money goes to the corporate media so it is pretty obvious who they work for.
shcrane71
(1,721 posts)We Want Peace
(205 posts)This coming election November, Koch brothers alone have put in more money than McCain Raised last time.
All of the money goes to the corporate media.
There job is to lie about polls and support, manufacture consent, then cover up the election fraud. There will probably be some shooting, maybe a zombie attack to change the subject.
It works every time, as long as we keep allowing them to get away with it.
Baitball Blogger
(46,745 posts)pnwmom
(108,980 posts)Are they really not doing it anywhere now, or just in this Wisconsin election?
Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)they are proof positive that the Repukes are stealing elections. Very simple, really.
Egalitarian Thug
(12,448 posts)Silly hippie
Freddie Stubbs
(29,853 posts)We Want Peace
(205 posts)You seriously have not noticed the media stopped doing exit polls after discrediting them?
Son of Gob
(1,502 posts)They start releasing them at 4 pm.
We Want Peace
(205 posts)This might be just as trustworthy as their polls before the election- like not at all, just part of the manufactured consent.
Igel
(35,323 posts)When the early exit polls became the tool of innumerate propaganda, they stopped being reported. An exit poll that doesn't give early results, for whom only a validated model is used, has no value to the innumerate and (wo)men of ill-will.
I watched a kid use the ideal gas law PV = nRT to determine the moles in a volume of liquid. The math worked out, but he demonstrated a profound lack of caring about the assumptions behind the equation. He insisted that given pressure, volume, temperature, and the constant R the equation had to work. There was, after all, an "=". Plugging in numbers and chugging out answers didn't make up for innumeracy and ill will: The model, the assumptions, upon which this equation is based simply don't hold for liquids.
There are a lot of examples of this kind of critical non-thinking used on the Internet, including this particular chunk.
For this post, take my handle to be thatisall.