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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI prefer not seeing the Secret Service in action.
I'm not sure I've seen them in action more than the last two days since Reagan's assassination attempt. Seeing them break up a fight yesterday was disturbing. Seeing them have to jump to the defense of Trump today was equally disturbing.
Would the actual president have finished their speech after an incident like today's?
There are people encouraging the disruption of rally's. I think this is a very bad idea. Democrats and other left of center people have not faired well in these types of situations. Disrupting Trump events will encourage tit for tat disruption of Democratic events. This is not the best path.
LiberalElite
(14,691 posts)you and I are in the minority here.
Renew Deal
(81,856 posts)Wear a shirt. Bring a sign. Stand outside and chant. But charging the stage, taking over events, etc are too much.
LiberalElite
(14,691 posts)who grabbed Trump. Do you know anything more about him?
As far as taking over events - I thought they were all being escorted out when Trump shut it down and made things worse. In any event, I think we should stay outside and perhaps that will dial things down a bit. Now MoveOn is fundraising over this and I do have to wonder if anyone thought this through.
Joe the Revelator
(14,915 posts)Albertoo
(2,016 posts)I got called a victim blamer for saying disrupting political rallies, even Trump's, isn't a good idea. Good to see some sanity. If we all start disrupting the other side's rallies, what do you guess we can expect? What next? Politics on a boxing ring?
leftofcool
(19,460 posts)I hope and pray that I don't see a Hillary sign or hear of a Hillary chant within 10 miles of a Trump rally.
unc70
(6,113 posts)Was on MSNBC earlier tonight.
leftofcool
(19,460 posts)I saw the camera span where he pointed and I didn't see a Hillary sign.
TM99
(8,352 posts)and thankfully it has been from a very small subset of said protesters. Only five were arrested in Chicago and then the idiot who tried to get on the stage with Trump.
Now, he is a BLM supporter and they have been pushing boundaries. They got away with forcing themselves on to the podium with Sanders in Seattle long before he had SS protection. If he had had it then, we would have seen the same thing that occurred with this kid.
Fear is real, and it is equally real for the young especially to want to stand up and fight back against such bigotry, hatred, and racism that is coming from a subset of the Trump supporters.
If you were fine with BLM all last year with NN15, Seattle, MN, etc., then you can't really speak out against this with any congruency.
Renew Deal
(81,856 posts)And what I meant by showing up at republican events was that BLM should be protesting republicans, not Sanders.
TM99
(8,352 posts)This exactly what you and I support. They are disrupting a bigoted GOP rally.
Renew Deal
(81,856 posts)My point then was that BLM was protesting the wrong people. I also said that they are not entitled to hijack events.
that was not in your linked post.
You are being consistent. Some are not.
sadoldgirl
(3,431 posts)of a chance by disrupting the rallies of the repugs.
While I understand the passion of the Trump protesters,
I think that a large, very large silent protest with signs
outside would have done a better job.
And the signs should be those of creating shame in
the people entering and exiting those rallies.
Renew Deal
(81,856 posts)I don't think that there's a single person that doesn't believe a Trump supporter is a racist and a Cruz supporter is a homophobe.
backscatter712
(26,355 posts)Especially with today's corporate bought-out media. You don't see the guys standing outside on the public sidewalk holding signs and waving cars getting the press do you? No, in order to get the press required to make your message of protest heard, you have to go into the rally, break all the rules, interrupt, and be as obnoxious as possible.
That's where we're at. To be successful at protesting, you must disrupt.
It is also necessary to be absolutely non-violent when protesting. Let the mouthbreathers on the other side throw the punches. Because violence backfires.