Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

Ian David

(69,059 posts)
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 02:12 PM Jun 2012

Waukesha Stonewall: Officials Refuse to Say Who’s In Charge of Monitoring Elections, Counting Result

Waukesha Stonewall: Officials Refuse to Say Who’s In Charge of Monitoring Elections, Counting Results

County Executive Vrakas said Kathy Nickolaus had been removed from her duties, but evidence suggests she’s still in charge—and no one will comment or clarify

WAUKESHA – After a series of high-profile incidents that earned embattled Waukesha County Clerk Kathy Nickolaus a reputation as most incompetent clerk in the nation, multiple calls for her removal were made by elected officials and even the rabidly pro-Walker Milwaukee Journal Sentinel editorial board, who stated:

“This gubernatorial Recall is too important to leave in the hands of Kathy Nickolaus… How can the citizens of Waukesha have any confidence that something else won’t go wrong in the next election; something that will call into question the results? They can’t as long as Nickolaus remains in office.”

County Executive Dan Vrakas also called for the removal of Nickolaus from future election oversight, and praised her decision to comply with his request, saying: “When given the choice to step down or step aside, she made the right decision.” Yet multiple reports from last month’s primary election, including one in which Vrakas himself expressed extreme disappointment with her role in the process, suggest Nickolaus is still very much in charge of oversight, tabulation and reporting of election results in Waukesha County.

<snip>

According to a report on last night’s Fox News 6, a bipartisan group of concerned citizens requested Vrakas get a restraining order against Nickolaus to prevent her involvement in oversight of – and maintain confidence in – such high-stakes results in such an important area at the heart of Scott Walker’s base. Vrakas said he was “unavailable” for comment, and Nickolaus refused repeated request to clarify her role. This is the second recent report in which Vrakas, Nickolaus and GOP officials all repeatedly refused to clarify who’s actually in charge in Waukesha County.

More:
http://www.wearewisconsin.org/uncategorized/waukesha-stonewall-officials-refuse-to-say-whos-in-charge-of-monitoring-elections-counting-results/

44 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Waukesha Stonewall: Officials Refuse to Say Who’s In Charge of Monitoring Elections, Counting Result (Original Post) Ian David Jun 2012 OP
Sounds like the FBI should be brought in...this smells like a criminal conspiracy... rfranklin Jun 2012 #1
good question! We Want Peace Jun 2012 #5
Justice Dept oversees voting fraud, I think. Unfortunately..... dixiegrrrrl Jun 2012 #33
yes We Want Peace Jun 2012 #40
Are they required to have a Democratic observer? shcrane71 Jun 2012 #2
There are several Democratic observers at the county and every polling place. PeaceNikki Jun 2012 #4
Thank you PeaceNikki! shcrane71 Jun 2012 #6
if you feel that Waukesha always goes red...why are they hiding this information? We Want Peace Jun 2012 #8
I 'don't feel' it always goes red, it DOES always go red. By a landslide. PeaceNikki Jun 2012 #9
did you read the thread you are replying to? We Want Peace Jun 2012 #10
you're rifuckingdiculous PeaceNikki Jun 2012 #12
you observed the last election, telling everyone is was perfectly good We Want Peace Jun 2012 #13
No, we did not observe the SC race, there have been 3 SINCE. Try to keep up. PeaceNikki Jun 2012 #14
you were not at the Prosser/Kloppenberg hand recount? We Want Peace Jun 2012 #16
yes, but not at the POLLS during the prosser/klopp RACE, which is where we STOP this shit PeaceNikki Jun 2012 #18
during the election they print the results the want, then they tamper with the ballot bags to match We Want Peace Jun 2012 #20
Nikki and thousands of other WisDems are.doing a hell of a job. HooptieWagon Jun 2012 #15
I am trying to remind everyone of the fraud that occured in recent Wisconsin election We Want Peace Jun 2012 #17
Should we have tackled the Board of Canvass? PeaceNikki Jun 2012 #19
counted the suspect bags separately We Want Peace Jun 2012 #21
It's called data analysis. We kept track of all ballots in suspect bags and how the votes in those PeaceNikki Jun 2012 #23
you should be raising awareness about the torn bags and faulty recount, not trying to shut me up We Want Peace Jun 2012 #29
you should be making everyone aware of the fact that nothing was done about the tampered with bags We Want Peace Jun 2012 #22
Not *I* got this... *WE'VE* got this. Thousands of volunteers, attorneys and election integrity prof PeaceNikki Jun 2012 #24
Why do you need to remind them? HooptieWagon Jun 2012 #26
it 'they're on the ground'...what are they doing here on DU? We Want Peace Jun 2012 #27
My shift hasn't started yet, thanks. PeaceNikki Jun 2012 #28
She already said her watch doesnt begin until later. HooptieWagon Jun 2012 #31
I wasn't reminding people 'on the ground'- this isn't about Nikki!! Most election workers are busy We Want Peace Jun 2012 #37
believe it or not, I'm not trying to remind Nikki, she feels the need to answer me every time We Want Peace Jun 2012 #30
Only love from this guy, my friend! lastlib Jun 2012 #34
I'll say it -- KATHY NICKOLAUS IS A CHEATING FRAUD Blue Owl Jun 2012 #3
K&R tk2kewl Jun 2012 #7
Thanks for this! We Want Peace Jun 2012 #11
That sounds perfectly democratic to me! bullwinkle428 Jun 2012 #25
13 1000 Words Jun 2012 #32
Diebold Dustlawyer Jun 2012 #35
K&R! Segami Jun 2012 #36
What needs to happen is for each voting area report the results to more than one location LiberalFighter Jun 2012 #38
hand counted posted at the precinct before Kathy Nickolaus has time alone with them We Want Peace Jun 2012 #39
This is where we need a DU pool to guess how late Waukesha will report. aquart Jun 2012 #41
well when you are pulling votes out of your ass We Want Peace Jun 2012 #42
kick for visibility We Want Peace Jun 2012 #43
This should be the most important article at the top of every page.....This is what happened today. robinlynne Jun 2012 #44
 

rfranklin

(13,200 posts)
1. Sounds like the FBI should be brought in...this smells like a criminal conspiracy...
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 02:20 PM
Jun 2012

why else would they not comment and reassure the public?

 

We Want Peace

(205 posts)
5. good question!
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 02:31 PM
Jun 2012

not sure the FBI will help though, we need to expose the bastards ourselves, then occupy the media until they tell the truth

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
33. Justice Dept oversees voting fraud, I think. Unfortunately.....
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 04:16 PM
Jun 2012

they have not been on our side since Shrub stole the WH.

PeaceNikki

(27,985 posts)
4. There are several Democratic observers at the county and every polling place.
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 02:30 PM
Jun 2012

I will be at one myself (note to my 'haters', my shift has not started yet).

 

We Want Peace

(205 posts)
8. if you feel that Waukesha always goes red...why are they hiding this information?
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 02:57 PM
Jun 2012

If everything is on the up and up, Kathy Nickolaus did nothing wrong...why the secrecy?

PeaceNikki

(27,985 posts)
9. I 'don't feel' it always goes red, it DOES always go red. By a landslide.
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 02:58 PM
Jun 2012

I have no fucking clue what 'secrecy' you are referring to.

I'm done with you, carry on....

 

We Want Peace

(205 posts)
10. did you read the thread you are replying to?
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 03:03 PM
Jun 2012

If you have no hope for a victory, no belief that this election might go blue, no suspicion after observing the last recount...you have no business being an election observer.

PeaceNikki

(27,985 posts)
12. you're rifuckingdiculous
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 03:07 PM
Jun 2012

I do have hope for a victory (but understand the reality of this COUNTY)
I do believe the ELECTION could go blue (but not this COUNTY)
I do have suspicion which is WHY I AM WORKING THE FUCKING POLLS

We can't prove what did or did not happen at the SC polls, but we CAN prevent that shit and that's what I am doing.

 

We Want Peace

(205 posts)
13. you observed the last election, telling everyone is was perfectly good
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 03:10 PM
Jun 2012

even though the recount had torn, duct taped, overstuffed bags with the wrong numbers

PeaceNikki

(27,985 posts)
18. yes, but not at the POLLS during the prosser/klopp RACE, which is where we STOP this shit
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 03:19 PM
Jun 2012

from happening. We learned what to watch for via the recount. It's not rocket surgery, ffs.

 

We Want Peace

(205 posts)
20. during the election they print the results the want, then they tamper with the ballot bags to match
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 03:21 PM
Jun 2012

How are you going to stop this shit if Kathy is in charge of watching the bags before the recount?

The bags come back torn, overstuffed, duct taped and mismarked...and you call that slop? What has changed? What would be evidence of fraud?

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
15. Nikki and thousands of other WisDems are.doing a hell of a job.
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 03:15 PM
Jun 2012

What are YOU doing, besides complaining and attacking the hard work theyre doing?

 

We Want Peace

(205 posts)
17. I am trying to remind everyone of the fraud that occured in recent Wisconsin election
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 03:18 PM
Jun 2012

and the idea that we can count on hand recounts is silly, because last time it was so obviously fraudulent and yet recount workers let these tampered with bags be counted anyway. And Kathy Nickolaus is still in charge, yet they are denying it. Just making sure everyone is ready for what they have coming...

PeaceNikki

(27,985 posts)
19. Should we have tackled the Board of Canvass?
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 03:21 PM
Jun 2012

We objected, entered into evidence and counted the suspect bags separately.

"... recount workers let these tampered with bags be counted anyway"

again, you're rifuckingdiculous.

PeaceNikki

(27,985 posts)
23. It's called data analysis. We kept track of all ballots in suspect bags and how the votes in those
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 03:26 PM
Jun 2012

bags went in comparison with the other bags.

There were attorneys and election specialists there and it's a legal process so we operated on facts and procedures.

So, what should we have done? Tackled them? Kicked and screamed? I don't understand WTF you think could or should have been done. You live in a weird place of non-reality.

 

We Want Peace

(205 posts)
29. you should be raising awareness about the torn bags and faulty recount, not trying to shut me up
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 03:51 PM
Jun 2012

I don't understand why you defend what has been done, and then tell us there is no hope for a win, always goes red.

 

We Want Peace

(205 posts)
22. you should be making everyone aware of the fact that nothing was done about the tampered with bags
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 03:26 PM
Jun 2012

not on here defending the recount and saying 'I got this' to everyone who questions the election.

PeaceNikki

(27,985 posts)
24. Not *I* got this... *WE'VE* got this. Thousands of volunteers, attorneys and election integrity prof
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 03:27 PM
Jun 2012

essionals, ffs.

 

We Want Peace

(205 posts)
27. it 'they're on the ground'...what are they doing here on DU?
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 03:34 PM
Jun 2012

I am trying to remind people on DU what happened, so everyone will be informed and ready to spread the word when they attempt to steal it again.

PeaceNikki

(27,985 posts)
28. My shift hasn't started yet, thanks.
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 03:42 PM
Jun 2012

I'll be closing tonight to help make sure folks in line at 8 can vote and that the certification on bags is recorded, all numbers tallied are given to the boiler room, all ballots are in their bags and that bags are properly sealed.


Meanwhile, you can stay here picking on people. Have fun with that!!

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
31. She already said her watch doesnt begin until later.
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 03:57 PM
Jun 2012

Not to mention mamy hours of training and instruction leading up to the recall. They dont need you to remind them of anything, nor your instructions how to do their job. WisDems have worked incredibly hard... they deserve our support and appreciation, not criticism and bashing from a keyboard commando.

 

We Want Peace

(205 posts)
37. I wasn't reminding people 'on the ground'- this isn't about Nikki!! Most election workers are busy
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 05:22 PM
Jun 2012

She is the one going on every thread saying no worries, 'we got this' and Waukesha always goes red anyway.

However PeaceNikki isn't the only person (isn't the person at all) that I was attempting to talk to.

 

We Want Peace

(205 posts)
30. believe it or not, I'm not trying to remind Nikki, she feels the need to answer me every time
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 03:53 PM
Jun 2012

I am trying to remind everyone else, and she is trying to stop me with incredible arguments like 'I was there, were you' and then the tag team steps in with the same uh 'argument'

lastlib

(23,251 posts)
34. Only love from this guy, my friend!
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 04:44 PM
Jun 2012

Thank you for what you're doing! It matters to us, and to America!

LiberalFighter

(50,980 posts)
38. What needs to happen is for each voting area report the results to more than one location
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 05:32 PM
Jun 2012

results should be reported to both the Republican and Democratic Party in the county, League of Women Voters if there is one and media.

aquart

(69,014 posts)
41. This is where we need a DU pool to guess how late Waukesha will report.
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 05:56 PM
Jun 2012

And how many lost votes they will find.

 

We Want Peace

(205 posts)
42. well when you are pulling votes out of your ass
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 06:54 PM
Jun 2012

you need to wait and find out just how many you will need.

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»Waukesha Stonewall: Offic...