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Woman Suffers Vicious Beating At Trump Rally (Original Post) TalkingDog Mar 2016 OP
someone is going to die before this is all over. chillfactor Mar 2016 #1
HERE IS AN UPDATE-- SCantiGOP Mar 2016 #38
If it was indeed the Chicago police, sus453 Mar 2016 #48
so basically this falls at rahm's feet, that is hc's supporter questionseverything Mar 2016 #66
Police: SCantiGOP Mar 2016 #67
My god........it is 1968 all over again. I knew this had an all too familiar feeling. dixiegrrrrl Mar 2016 #68
Emotions are running high... TipTok Mar 2016 #2
And brains are running on empty. Buzz Clik Mar 2016 #26
. . .assuming they have any. . . DinahMoeHum Mar 2016 #28
I will assume the poster is mocking Der Donald Jack Rabbit Mar 2016 #43
Take a deep breath... TipTok Mar 2016 #69
This message was self-deleted by its author Kingofalldems Mar 2016 #54
Liar. Donald Trump told us all no one has ever been hurt at one of his rallies. Tommy_Carcetti Mar 2016 #3
Probably correct. I don't think any of his supporters have been hurt. Now other people do not LiberalArkie Mar 2016 #20
He actually said that, didn't he! LittleGirl Mar 2016 #49
Drumpf insisted to Jake Tapper that "no one has been injured at my rallies. Zero." Atman Mar 2016 #4
That looks pretty bad.... disillusioned73 Mar 2016 #5
she is my hero. if that had been my little roguevalley Mar 2016 #23
Trump is inciting violence world wide wally Mar 2016 #6
Inciting violence meow2u3 Mar 2016 #7
I saw this on my FB feed this morning skygazer Mar 2016 #8
Outstanding! me b zola Mar 2016 #18
nice n/t 0rganism Mar 2016 #30
Horrific. demmiblue Mar 2016 #9
I was wondering elljay Mar 2016 #31
see 2nd post above SCantiGOP Mar 2016 #51
Why is the media not putting this on the front page of every paper? nolabear Mar 2016 #10
because of who owns those front pages litlbilly Mar 2016 #21
no quite... SCantiGOP Mar 2016 #52
This is the reason nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #57
Rachel Maddow presents video timeline of Trump's comments at rallies that have incited violence ... napkinz Mar 2016 #11
While her network shows Trump 24/7, more than any other network! Dustlawyer Mar 2016 #27
That is horrible. Link taking a long time - where'd this happen? underpants Mar 2016 #12
It says Chicago. nt retrowire Mar 2016 #16
Horrible marions ghost Mar 2016 #13
And I'm just listening to Bernie's speech- He just said "Love trumps hate" Gregorian Mar 2016 #14
Holy shit retrowire Mar 2016 #15
His Secret Service protection should be cancelled. Mr.Bill Mar 2016 #17
That's an interesting idea; greiner3 Mar 2016 #19
Couldn't happen here...couldn't happen here...no place like home... NT Jerry442 Mar 2016 #35
Yes! I don't want my tax dollars paying for this. SoapBox Mar 2016 #22
The SS should not assist in any illegal action regardless of jwirr Mar 2016 #39
We seem to be heading to our own Kristallnacht. n/t Stonepounder Mar 2016 #24
Mark my word... Playinghardball Mar 2016 #25
Trump will pay the legal fees of the attacker ... napkinz Mar 2016 #59
No, he won't. ChairmanAgnostic Mar 2016 #71
The fact that some one(s) would do this to a woman/mother is disgusting! Dustlawyer Mar 2016 #29
Hope she makes charges. zentrum Mar 2016 #32
Will Trump keep his promise, to pay... ConsiderThis_2016 Mar 2016 #33
Back in 1948, I had a school friend whose father owned a bar. He would get free tickets to Cleita Mar 2016 #34
Yes Jerry442 Mar 2016 #37
One thing that seldom comes up is the cost of hospital care rurallib Mar 2016 #36
Excellent post. Consider starting a threat with it. I've wondered the same thing about people raccoon Mar 2016 #42
Mother Jones did an investigative report on this about a year ago rurallib Mar 2016 #64
Simply disgusting robertgodardfromnj Mar 2016 #40
any links to a real news site? nt uhnope Mar 2016 #41
No, but you can write the blogger if you are interested. They might have one. TalkingDog Mar 2016 #47
that's yr job. uhnope Mar 2016 #60
I don't get paid. Unless you want to shell out some bucks. TalkingDog Mar 2016 #62
it's yr responsibility not to push something you admit could be fake uhnope Mar 2016 #63
I'm with you SCantiGOP Mar 2016 #53
I do not believe or disbelieve this story. JDPriestly Mar 2016 #44
This message was self-deleted by its author althecat Mar 2016 #45
There's no excuse for this. davidthegnome Mar 2016 #46
What's happening? What country am I living in? Initech Mar 2016 #50
Fruther photos posted nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #55
Why hasn't this story been covered by any other news source? red dog 1 Mar 2016 #56
Assumed bull crap until a real source carries this. Oneironaut Mar 2016 #58
+ 1 red dog 1 Mar 2016 #61
Yeah, post says "friend of a friend" and nothing on HuffPo yet, which would jump on this if real Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2016 #65
It coulld be a fake story planted by Trump supporters Democat Mar 2016 #70
Political tactic to gain supporters for Trump? Patricia Sadowski Mar 2016 #72

SCantiGOP

(13,870 posts)
38. HERE IS AN UPDATE--
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 01:39 PM
Mar 2016
http://theintellectualist.co/update-on-kates-story-woman-who-was-beaten-at-trump-rally

Says it was police, not Trump supporters, but very little real info. I was very skeptical, since I think the media would be all over this. The Sunday talk shows all had segments on the protests at the Chicago rally and Trump's statements encouraging the violence.

Site looks legitimate.

sus453

(164 posts)
48. If it was indeed the Chicago police,
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 02:23 PM
Mar 2016

that wouldn't surprise me a bit. Having lived in Chicago and participated in anti-war and pro-working people marches and demonstrations, I've seen and experienced first hand what the police in Chicago are gleefully capable of.

SCantiGOP

(13,870 posts)
67. Police:
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 05:57 PM
Mar 2016

Could be City, County, State, Federal etc.

Not surprised though that someone took an event at a Trump rally and tried to bend it to an anti-Clinton talking point.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
68. My god........it is 1968 all over again. I knew this had an all too familiar feeling.
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 11:31 PM
Mar 2016

and THAT was a year of assassinations.

Jack Rabbit

(45,984 posts)
43. I will assume the poster is mocking Der Donald
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 01:49 PM
Mar 2016

Who said months ago in response to a beating of a homeless man (IIRC) by two Trump supporters, "My supporters are very passionate."

Up to that point, Trump was just a silly clown who talked about building a wall on the Southwestern border and add some bravado about making the government of Mexico pay for it. I don't know about you, but I stopped laughing at Trump after he made that remark. Once his supporters began beating protesters at his events, the Nazi comparisons stopped being tasteless hyperbole.

 

TipTok

(2,474 posts)
69. Take a deep breath...
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 12:13 AM
Mar 2016

You seem to be on edge.

This thread is a perfect example of the aforementioned emotions.

Response to TipTok (Reply #2)

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,182 posts)
3. Liar. Donald Trump told us all no one has ever been hurt at one of his rallies.
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 11:32 AM
Mar 2016

I read that on the internet. And all I know is what's on the internet, so it means that Donald Trump's telling the truth.

LiberalArkie

(15,715 posts)
20. Probably correct. I don't think any of his supporters have been hurt. Now other people do not
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 12:36 PM
Mar 2016

really count to him. Do they?

Atman

(31,464 posts)
4. Drumpf insisted to Jake Tapper that "no one has been injured at my rallies. Zero."
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 11:34 AM
Mar 2016

Tapper actually pushed back and said "Not quite zero."

Drumpf, never one to be intimidated by the truth, said "No, zero. Zero. Zero."

I guess the punch in the face didn't hurt, the black guy laying on the ground with the bloody face, this woman above...zero, zero, zero.

 

disillusioned73

(2,872 posts)
5. That looks pretty bad....
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 11:41 AM
Mar 2016

with a blow like that, a concussion is also a good possibility.. not surprised that the corporate media doesn't show this vile from the trump fanboyz/girlz..

Be safe out there folks..

roguevalley

(40,656 posts)
23. she is my hero. if that had been my little
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 12:54 PM
Mar 2016

Mom someone would be dead. I wonder what the secret service must think. I would withdraw protection if I headed the agency.

world wide wally

(21,743 posts)
6. Trump is inciting violence
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 11:47 AM
Mar 2016

How can this not be against the law?
I think they even caught him on video once or twice

demmiblue

(36,851 posts)
9. Horrific.
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 11:52 AM
Mar 2016

Is there more to this story?

Was it police or a Trump supporter?

I can't imagine what her daughter feels like after seeing her mother bludgeoned. I think the effects of that night will haunt them both for a very long time.

elljay

(1,178 posts)
31. I was wondering
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 01:12 PM
Mar 2016

whether there was any video. I can't imagine that no one caught this on their phone.

nolabear

(41,963 posts)
10. Why is the media not putting this on the front page of every paper?
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 11:55 AM
Mar 2016

I'm watching, instead, on msnbc, Chris Christie give Donald a blow job. He's "interviewing" him. He's sitting there talking to this horror of a candidate as though he's a real person.

SCantiGOP

(13,870 posts)
52. no quite...
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 03:32 PM
Mar 2016

Every newspaper and every news outlet on TV has had stories on the events at Trump rallies, and whether his comments are encouraging violence.
There is no conspiracy to keep this story out of the papers and off TV, web sites, etc.

napkinz

(17,199 posts)
11. Rachel Maddow presents video timeline of Trump's comments at rallies that have incited violence ...
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 11:56 AM
Mar 2016


Rachel Maddow presents a video timeline of Donald Trump's comments at rallies that have stoked hostility and incited violence by his supporters against protesters, leading to chaos after a canceled rally in Chicago.

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/escalating-aggression-marks-trump-s-rhetoric-642743363967?cid=sm_fb_maddow

marions ghost

(19,841 posts)
13. Horrible
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 12:03 PM
Mar 2016

and the media turns a blind eye.

What this idiot is promoting is so dangerous. Is there NO legal recourse against inciting violence?

Gregorian

(23,867 posts)
14. And I'm just listening to Bernie's speech- He just said "Love trumps hate"
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 12:10 PM
Mar 2016

We're on the doorstep of fascism.

Mr.Bill

(24,291 posts)
17. His Secret Service protection should be cancelled.
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 12:27 PM
Mar 2016

Why should the taxpayers have to provide protection for someone inciting riots?

 

greiner3

(5,214 posts)
19. That's an interesting idea;
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 12:30 PM
Mar 2016

However, that might be the excuse he'd need to install his own 'brown shirted' thugs as security and maybe burn down (insert some American icon).

I've been thinking about what might set em off and maybe NRA headquarters where no one is injured and heck, they were about to build a new headquarters there anyway and heck, it saved them a lot of money to have the building razed without spending their money.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
39. The SS should not assist in any illegal action regardless of
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 01:39 PM
Mar 2016

who the candidate is. And they should tell them that up front to Trump and Bullhorn Bill.

napkinz

(17,199 posts)
59. Trump will pay the legal fees of the attacker ...
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 03:44 PM
Mar 2016

Will he pay the medical costs of the injured? The funeral cost of the killed?

ChairmanAgnostic

(28,017 posts)
71. No, he won't.
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 05:53 AM
Mar 2016

First he would be guilty of being a conspirator, and second, his promise violates public policy and is unenforceable.

Dustlawyer

(10,495 posts)
29. The fact that some one(s) would do this to a woman/mother is disgusting!
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 01:04 PM
Mar 2016

What happened to the 1st Amendment they are so quick to throw out?

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
34. Back in 1948, I had a school friend whose father owned a bar. He would get free tickets to
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 01:34 PM
Mar 2016

roller derby and wrestling exhibitions. We were both eight years old at the time. Since her parents were divorced, he would spend every other weekend with my friend and her brother. Dad used to take his kids to those events and sometimes I tagged along. The audience was a better show than what was happening in the ring or the oval platform. Men beat each other up regularly. Women and children were exempt unless it was the ladies or even kids going at each other. The problem was that often innocent members of the audience were also hurt. Of course, when my friend's mother found out where her dad was taking his children for entertainment that quit abruptly.

These Donald Trump rallies remind me of those days. So it turns out that it's mentioned on the radio today that Trump once owned wrestling franchises. What the fuck is he thinking? Does he imagine he can run the presidency like a fake sports venue?

rurallib

(62,415 posts)
36. One thing that seldom comes up is the cost of hospital care
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 01:37 PM
Mar 2016

for the victims of the violence. Without true universal health care this woman most likely had some deductibles and co-pays that depending on her situation could be difficult to cover. That is best case scenario. If she has no insurance sje may be looking at an unexpected whopping bill.

Will she possibly lose her job due to absence?
I am sure there are more costs that associated with this beating that we will never know. And there is the fear that she now must live with.

One thing that is never discussed is that every act of violence in this country incurs some costs that we all pay for in some way.

Enough of the strutting junior high bully act, Trump. Admit your guilt and be responsible for what you cause.

raccoon

(31,110 posts)
42. Excellent post. Consider starting a threat with it. I've wondered the same thing about people
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 01:44 PM
Mar 2016

injured by mass murderers, I mean shooters, in workplaces, churches, schools, etc. How they are stuck with a
bunch of medical bills--and as rurallib says, that is a best case scenario.

Also, families being stuck with funeral expenses in similar cases.



rurallib

(62,415 posts)
64. Mother Jones did an investigative report on this about a year ago
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 04:47 PM
Mar 2016
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2015/04/true-cost-of-gun-violence-in-america

Some very sad stories in there.
Even though they put some $$$ figures on it, I can't help but think of the lives affected by even the smallest act of violence - whether that act is a police officer shooting someone or some "christian" shooting someone for jesus or just someone drunk and armed.

Jeez - posted too quickly:
Mothers, fathers, grandparents, siblings, friends, coworkers, bosses, acquaintances - every body who knows a victim of violence is affected forever.
 

uhnope

(6,419 posts)
60. that's yr job.
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 03:51 PM
Mar 2016

Remember the RW BS "news" that a Trump protester was ISIS. we don't want to be like them & push anything like this that's not 100% confirmed.

TalkingDog

(9,001 posts)
62. I don't get paid. Unless you want to shell out some bucks.
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 04:11 PM
Mar 2016

So, it's not my "job"

The source is not a right wing rag. It is a liberal leaning site. And while somebody might be lying to them, I have no control over that. Requiring posters research every story to come to a final irrevocable "truth", would mean very few news stories would ever get posted; if any.

If it's fake, it will come out.

 

uhnope

(6,419 posts)
63. it's yr responsibility not to push something you admit could be fake
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 04:45 PM
Mar 2016

instead of waiting to see if it is fake--or better yet, finding out on yr own.

The media world is getting flooded with misinformation and disinformation because of such things

SCantiGOP

(13,870 posts)
53. I'm with you
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 03:34 PM
Mar 2016

The site looks legitimate, but I am a bit skeptical that it is not appearing on any other news outlets.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
44. I do not believe or disbelieve this story.
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 01:54 PM
Mar 2016

It needs to be investigated by an objective investigator who is only interested in finding out the facts and not in making a political point.

People do strange things for strange reasons. This must be investigated and proved or disproved.

Response to TalkingDog (Original post)

davidthegnome

(2,983 posts)
46. There's no excuse for this.
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 01:56 PM
Mar 2016

I'm afraid it's going to get worse until we're seeing these kinds of injuries frequently - possibly (and likely) deaths as well. If Trump "doesn't condone violence", he needs to make a very public, very long statement urging his supporters to not act with violence. He has frequently done just the opposite.

Terrible.

red dog 1

(27,802 posts)
56. Why hasn't this story been covered by any other news source?
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 03:36 PM
Mar 2016

The Op link to The Intellectualist provides no further information at all.

It only says:
"We have spoken to the victim and a friend of hers who is acting as her spokesman.
Through her spokesman, the victim gave the Intellectualist permission to post additional photos of her injuries.
As more facts come to light, the story will continue to be updated."

(It then shows the entire facebook post)

From a friend on Facebook
"Last night, my friend's good friend was badly beaten in front of her (teenage) daughter while she was holding a protest sign at the Trump rally in Chicago.
Her arm was broke, her head had to be stapled and she is in terrible shape as you can imagine.
I don't know all the details of what happened yet, but I find myself wondering about his "facts"


I find myself wondering about his "facts" too.


BTW, over at The Discussionist, they're having a field day with this:
"DU is now running with two fake Trump smears/stories, one in a series they have been posting"
"Woman Suffers Viscous Beating At Trump Rally"
http://www.discussionist.com/1015768470

Oneironaut

(5,495 posts)
58. Assumed bull crap until a real source carries this.
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 03:36 PM
Mar 2016

No offense to the OP, of course. This story is unconfirmed, and what do we know about this site? I don't believe this, and won't until it's confirmed. I think we should be very careful believing stuff like this without the appropriate fact checking.

- Who is this woman? Can she be found? Will she speak?

- Who beat her? A Trump supporter or the police?

- Can her accounts be confirmed by a third party?

Until then, this is bull crap to me. The fact that it came from Facebook makes it even more suspicious.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,001 posts)
65. Yeah, post says "friend of a friend" and nothing on HuffPo yet, which would jump on this if real
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 04:48 PM
Mar 2016

Nothing ... yet.

Might turn out to be true, though. Looks like an Emergency Room bay.

Democat

(11,617 posts)
70. It coulld be a fake story planted by Trump supporters
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 05:29 AM
Mar 2016

Probably better to wait for more information.

72. Political tactic to gain supporters for Trump?
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 05:49 PM
Mar 2016

I have witnessed hired disrupters in the past but in 2016 would surprise me. Political tactic?

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