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madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 10:59 AM Mar 2016

Tim Canova says denied access to DNC voter database for running against DWS, an incumbent.

Has this always been a policy at the DNC that if you run against an opponent you can't access the party's voter database? I never realized this before.

Tim Canova is challenging Debbie Wasserman Schultz in FL 23rd CD. This is part of an email from him today.

Last week, I called the Florida Democratic Party to request access to the voter file database and software known as VAN that is routinely used by Democratic candidates across the country.

I was told that our campaign would be denied access to this database because I am running against an incumbent Democrat, Debbie Wasserman Schultz. I was also told that any Democratic candidate running against an incumbent Democrat would be denied access — even a lifelong progressive challenging an out-of-touch incumbent.

This is unfair and undemocratic. My opponent already has untold advantages against an insurgent progressive campaign like ours. We are refusing to take corporate money, while she has taken millions of dollars from Wall Street bankers, payday lenders, private prison companies, and other corporate special interests. How much more of an advantage does Wasserman Schultz need to silence the voices of grassroots voters in our district?

This is nothing less than an entrenched establishment throwing up roadblocks against our political revolution. We’ve seen my opponent do this against Bernie’s presidential campaign and other progressive challengers. As head of the DNC, Wasserman Schultz has pushed strategies that suppress voter turnout, all to protect incumbents and establishment politicians. She has routinely defended the party’s use of Superdelegates to block the will of Democratic voters in state after state.

All of this has made our party weaker and more vulnerable against Republicans in general elections, which is so painfully obvious with the Democratic Party’s losses in the midterm elections in the past six years — 13 Senate seats and 69 House seats, the biggest loss of congressional Democrats in modern political history.


https://timcanova.com/

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Tim Canova says denied access to DNC voter database for running against DWS, an incumbent. (Original Post) madfloridian Mar 2016 OP
Little Debbie needs to be retired. peacebird Mar 2016 #1
Take the tires off of her ... Jopin Klobe Mar 2016 #21
There is a Democratic Underground for Tim Canova Act Blue page csziggy Mar 2016 #2
Thanks, I missed the OS one. I searched on subject line only I guess. madfloridian Mar 2016 #5
Thanks for the link - I sent him the money I set aside for Bernie this week. flor-de-jasmim Mar 2016 #34
They do the same in CA nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #3
I was really surprised to learn about this. madfloridian Mar 2016 #13
Most candidates do not speak of it nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #36
OMG...I never knew. SoapBox Mar 2016 #19
Amen, clean house from Top to Bottom. DINO DWS has to Go, from both jobs. appalachiablue Mar 2016 #27
And yet DWS refused help to Democrats challenging her incumbant Republican friends. HooptieWagon Mar 2016 #4
Well, you didn't think Debbie DINO was going to get primaried without a fight, right? djean111 Mar 2016 #6
I bet Bernie could help him a lot. nt SusanCalvin Mar 2016 #14
I'll bet Alan Grayson can give Tim all the Dem contacts in his district too. Kip Humphrey Mar 2016 #22
In Texas candidates have to pay to obtain access to the VAN MagickMuffin Mar 2016 #7
Yes, I know they have to pay for it. madfloridian Mar 2016 #11
They should not be denied access, period. MagickMuffin Mar 2016 #12
The Establishment protects the status quo even when it is very, very bad. stillwaiting Mar 2016 #8
I suspect that this kind of manipulation is why Hillary has jwirr Mar 2016 #32
This message was self-deleted by its author Cali_Democrat Mar 2016 #9
k&r tk2kewl Mar 2016 #10
K & R! TIME TO PANIC Mar 2016 #15
Question for Debbie Jack Rabbit Mar 2016 #16
This is absolutely NO way to run the Democratic Party. ancianita Mar 2016 #17
Someone needs a hug. Come here! Octafish Mar 2016 #18
Arghhhhhh! SoapBox Mar 2016 #20
To some, a hug is more than a prayer. Octafish Mar 2016 #25
And a Big, Wet, Sloppy Kiss Land of Enchantment Mar 2016 #24
I liked her until I met her other side. Octafish Mar 2016 #29
Not surprised one bit. Cassiopeia Mar 2016 #23
Maybe his campaign is working - she seems as pesperate as she was shortly before the Iowa caucasus! Betty Karlson Mar 2016 #26
Donate with our DU for Tim link HERE ($225 so far today!!!) Omaha Steve Mar 2016 #28
The game is rigged, that is certain and not new. merrily Mar 2016 #30
Thanks for the link. OS does an amazing job at fundraising. madfloridian Mar 2016 #40
Miss Debbie needs to "spend more time with her family", permanently. nt JFKDem62 Mar 2016 #31
I reached out to them warmonger456 Mar 2016 #33
Just made a contribution to his campaign Worldly Traveler Mar 2016 #35
This message was self-deleted by its author warmonger456 Mar 2016 #37
This message was self-deleted by its author warmonger456 Mar 2016 #38
Not surprised. blackspade Mar 2016 #39
K&R! This is dirty even by the DWS low standards Enthusiast Mar 2016 #41
in a way i can understand it. in wisconsin we sometimes see a goper run in the dem primary just dembotoz Mar 2016 #42
Tim's a Democrat. madfloridian Mar 2016 #43

madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
5. Thanks, I missed the OS one. I searched on subject line only I guess.
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 11:05 AM
Mar 2016

I might have known he was right on top of things.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
3. They do the same in CA
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 11:03 AM
Mar 2016

It is informally known as the Willie Brown rule. I did not realize it was more, ahem, national

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
36. Most candidates do not speak of it
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 01:14 PM
Mar 2016

and most party members are not told about this. I overheard this but was never able to confirm it, even on background, during the Party Convention. Well, this candidate just did.

For some odd reason, they do not want to talk about it. But this is all the confirmation I ever needed. Now to further burn bridges or not to burn bridges... (Aka to write an article on this, or not). Trust me none will be too happy.

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
19. OMG...I never knew.
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 12:26 PM
Mar 2016

This stuff is really an "awakening" for me...

It is indeed time for a top to bottom, Federal, State, Local Political Revolution...better known as a big, good house cleaning!

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
4. And yet DWS refused help to Democrats challenging her incumbant Republican friends.
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 11:04 AM
Mar 2016

She's got to go.

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
6. Well, you didn't think Debbie DINO was going to get primaried without a fight, right?
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 11:09 AM
Mar 2016

To those who airily say (as opposed to those who are more familiar with the DNC machinery) that all we have to do is get liberals into the Democratic ranks - this is one of the ways DWS can stop non-DINOs, and anyone who dares to primary her, in their tracks. I guess I will need to send Canova more money, and maybe some of the cool stuff Bernie has to GOTV can be used on Tim's behalf.

MagickMuffin

(17,201 posts)
7. In Texas candidates have to pay to obtain access to the VAN
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 11:21 AM
Mar 2016

I wouldn't have a problem sharing my access against an incumbent, if they were denied legal access.

madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
11. Yes, I know they have to pay for it.
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 11:37 AM
Mar 2016

IF they can even get it. This is new to me, that they are denied access.

MagickMuffin

(17,201 posts)
12. They should not be denied access, period.
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 11:45 AM
Mar 2016

And if this is the game the DNC is playing then we need to send a message that this isn't acceptable behavior and this is why we won't be sending any donation money to the DNC if they refuse to do their jobs.


And like I said I would be willing to help a candidate that was denied access because of the party hierarchy denying access to the VAN. But that's just how I roll, I don't play games when it comes to voting.

stillwaiting

(3,795 posts)
8. The Establishment protects the status quo even when it is very, very bad.
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 11:27 AM
Mar 2016

And, it IS very, very bad.

This makes the Establishment a huge part of the problem.

We need that political revolution if we're ever going to get the Democratic Party to be responsive to the needs of average Americans ever again.

I have a great idea: Let's NOT vote for Establishment Democrats!!



jwirr

(39,215 posts)
32. I suspect that this kind of manipulation is why Hillary has
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 01:04 PM
Mar 2016

so many Congressional endorsements. DWS is our D Trump. Is this what they mean by the bully pulpit?

Response to madfloridian (Original post)

Jack Rabbit

(45,984 posts)
16. Question for Debbie
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 12:21 PM
Mar 2016

Is it the policy of the DNC to deny access to any Democratic primary opponent of a Democratic incumbent or does that apply only if the incumbent Democrat is also the chair of the DNC?

As a follow up question, is this the policy of the DNC or just your personal policy?

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
25. To some, a hug is more than a prayer.
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 12:56 PM
Mar 2016

I don't know. Oftentimes, after loss, we hear "They are in our thoughts and prayers."

When Reagan became president, it became the standard government response for national problems.

While I wouldn't take a hug from Deb or Pruneface, I do want to thank you for the heads-up to the other thread. I remember when she was going after the banksters, at first.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
29. I liked her until I met her other side.
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 12:59 PM
Mar 2016

She said she'd never heard that Obama was in charge of an unconstitutional drone assassination program.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=629696

Like the loss of faith only seeing what's behind the curtain with my own two eyes can bring, I gotta say, "Wow."

 

Betty Karlson

(7,231 posts)
26. Maybe his campaign is working - she seems as pesperate as she was shortly before the Iowa caucasus!
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 12:57 PM
Mar 2016

Go Tim!

merrily

(45,251 posts)
30. The game is rigged, that is certain and not new.
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 01:02 PM
Mar 2016
Supporting only incumbents has been the DNC, DSCC and DCCC policy for a long time.

The DCCC and DSCC recruit DINOs to run, then the DSCC, DSCC and DNC make sure no one can primary them. Just ask Senators Lamont and Halter. Then, they tell us it's all because DINOs are more electible.


http://jackpineradicals.org/showthread.php?6271-This-is-unfair-and-undemocratic-%28Tim-has-worked-with-Bernie%29

Donate to Canova: https://secure.actblue.com/contribute/page/jpr4timcanova


warmonger456

(17 posts)
33. I reached out to them
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 01:05 PM
Mar 2016

Just sent them this email:

Canova For Florida,

It has been brought to my attention (http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511488447) that the DNC Establishment has decided to supress Democracy and basically outright cheat to deny Floridians their right to have a robust and fair hearing of the Candidates who seeks to represent them.

As an IT specialist living outside your District, my only regret is that I will not be able to vote for you. However, my IT skills are are at your disposal as much as I can provide it.

Let me know.

Thanks,
Manuel (Manny)

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dembotoz

(16,922 posts)
42. in a way i can understand it. in wisconsin we sometimes see a goper run in the dem primary just
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 07:14 AM
Mar 2016

to harass the dem candidate

do not like the idea of turning over the van to the gop

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