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Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 01:58 PM Mar 2016

All things considered, what grade would you give Bill Clinton as president, from 1993 to 2001?


50 votes, 1 pass | Time left: Unlimited
A+, A or A-
6 (12%)
B+, B or B-
8 (16%)
C+, C or C-
18 (36%)
D+, D or D-
9 (18%)
F
9 (18%)
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All things considered, what grade would you give Bill Clinton as president, from 1993 to 2001? (Original Post) Nye Bevan Mar 2016 OP
Cutting the saftey net is an automatic F. Cobalt Violet Mar 2016 #1
Does President Obama get an automatic F for not attempting to restore it? (nt) Nye Bevan Mar 2016 #2
No he get an F for cutting food stamps during a time of soring childhood poverty. Cobalt Violet Mar 2016 #5
Let me guess.... FDR gets an F for interning Japanese Americans? (nt) Nye Bevan Mar 2016 #9
This place is fucking ridiculous sometimes Action_Patrol Mar 2016 #14
ALL things considered...A+ (just not being a Bush would qualify for a solid B) Glorfindel Mar 2016 #3
+1 hamsterjill Mar 2016 #11
I thought that we HATED balanced budgets. nt clarice Mar 2016 #28
I'd give him a C+ tkmorris Mar 2016 #4
B-, the same grade I'd give Barack Obama. Chan790 Mar 2016 #6
A- or B+ Tommy_Carcetti Mar 2016 #7
The GOP saved the Clintons during the '90s nichomachus Mar 2016 #8
It's very hard to imagine Bob Dole beating Clinton in 1996 (nt) Nye Bevan Mar 2016 #10
Had the Clintons been on the ropes, Dole wouldn't have been the candidate. nt nichomachus Mar 2016 #12
I have to grade him down for his recklessness with Lewinsky. He could have stopped CTyankee Mar 2016 #13
He could have stopped her? No, he could have stopped himself. n/t demmiblue Mar 2016 #16
Yes, certainly. But she got access to him and he could have said to his aides that he CTyankee Mar 2016 #19
Mike Dukakis had a standing rule with his staff nichomachus Mar 2016 #26
absolutely. He was in charge not his penis. He should have been much more in control. CTyankee Mar 2016 #27
What bothered me the most about the whole"penis gate affair".... clarice Mar 2016 #30
NAFTA and welfare deform cost him the A. KamaAina Mar 2016 #15
not as bad as bush or ronnie so not an f but not muich higher dembotoz Mar 2016 #17
Yup...can't you just see the regular cast of characters? nt clarice Mar 2016 #29
Eh. B - HughBeaumont Mar 2016 #18
The LGBTQI community benefited during the Clinton administration. yardwork Mar 2016 #24
"Deemed to have deserved honours", same as Barack Obama. Donald Ian Rankin Mar 2016 #20
B- or C+ XemaSab Mar 2016 #21
Not an overall grade Angel Martin Mar 2016 #22
Torn somewhere between low A and high C MillennialDem Mar 2016 #23
Average. I voted "C" for purposes of this poll. bigwillq Mar 2016 #25

Glorfindel

(9,784 posts)
3. ALL things considered...A+ (just not being a Bush would qualify for a solid B)
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 02:10 PM
Mar 2016

He left office with a balanced budget and a nation at peace. The national debt was shrinking. And then came the supreme court's coup d'état in December 2000. The Clinton administration is definitely the good old days.

tkmorris

(11,138 posts)
4. I'd give him a C+
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 02:18 PM
Mar 2016

Here's the thing though. I'd expect your average Republican to get about a 'D' from me, just based on ideology. Similarly, the average Dem should be around a 'B'. I think Clinton wasn't terrible, but as a Democrat I'd consider him a bit below average overall.

 

Chan790

(20,176 posts)
6. B-, the same grade I'd give Barack Obama.
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 02:24 PM
Mar 2016

They both got some big things done but overall, I feel like the negatives slightly outpace the positives of their administrations and they get a lot of credit for things they had small or no part in.

As contrast, I'd give the GOP Presidents in my lifetime:

Reagan: F
Bush I: D- (He really didn't F things up as much as he could have)
Bush II: F

I was only alive for the last 30 days of Carter's term, post election and a lame-ducked so if anything, he gets a "pass" on the pass/fail scale.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,270 posts)
7. A- or B+
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 02:26 PM
Mar 2016

Those going lower than a B are discounting that he had a Republican congress to deal with for 6 out of his 8 years, and also ignoring the objective fact that the economy grew incredibly while President.

nichomachus

(12,754 posts)
8. The GOP saved the Clintons during the '90s
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 02:41 PM
Mar 2016

had it not been for the constant and ridiculous charges being thrown at the Clintons by Republicans, more people on the left wouldn't have felt the need to defend them as a knee-jerk reaction and might have assessed their presidency more accurately. Bill Clinton would not be viewed favorably by many people, and Mrs. Clinton would have nothing to run on today.

The final straw was Monica Lewinsky. Again, people felt obliged to rush to Bill's defense. And he and Mrs. Clinton felt obliged to give up their assault on Medicare in order to solidify support.

In fact, had the right and left united on the proper complaints about the two of them, Bill most likely would not have had a second term.

CTyankee

(64,056 posts)
13. I have to grade him down for his recklessness with Lewinsky. He could have stopped
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 03:47 PM
Mar 2016

her as he was the most powerful man in the world. He took too many chances and opened the door to a repub. congress that wanted to get rid of him. He lied to the country.

Maybe a C. The economy flourished and grew as the dot.com revolution came into being. I do give credit where credit is due.

CTyankee

(64,056 posts)
19. Yes, certainly. But she got access to him and he could have said to his aides that he
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 04:48 PM
Mar 2016

wanted her nowhere near the WH. I blame him not her.

nichomachus

(12,754 posts)
26. Mike Dukakis had a standing rule with his staff
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 07:24 PM
Mar 2016

He was never to be left alone with a woman who wasn't his wife.

Knowing that he couldn't keep Little Willie under control, Big Willie should have done the same thing.

CTyankee

(64,056 posts)
27. absolutely. He was in charge not his penis. He should have been much more in control.
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 07:28 PM
Mar 2016

The repubs MPEACHED the guy! We barely escaped him being CONVICTED in the Senate!

At a certain point, we have to say ENOUGH.

 

clarice

(5,504 posts)
30. What bothered me the most about the whole"penis gate affair"....
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 07:38 PM
Mar 2016

was the silence from the national women's groups.

dembotoz

(16,920 posts)
17. not as bad as bush or ronnie so not an f but not muich higher
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 04:13 PM
Mar 2016

and it hurts my opinion of hrc as in

my
god
not
them
again

HughBeaumont

(24,461 posts)
18. Eh. B -
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 04:19 PM
Mar 2016

Lots of good things happened under his admin.

Lots of bad things also happened under his admin, particularly in terms of blue collar work, the LGBTQI community and welfare recipients. Clinton was also a fan of deregulation and kowtowing to jackals like Angelo Mozila and Phorclosure Phil Gramm.

yardwork

(62,084 posts)
24. The LGBTQI community benefited during the Clinton administration.
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 07:12 PM
Mar 2016

Vastly increased funding for HIV research led to huge strides in treatment, saving millions of lives.

DADT was a big improvement on the previous policies.

Donald Ian Rankin

(13,598 posts)
20. "Deemed to have deserved honours", same as Barack Obama.
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 04:59 PM
Mar 2016

DDH is the award Cambridge university gives to student who are unable to take their final exams for legitimate reasons, and whose past performance indicates that they would probably have passed them.

One of my friends got a DDH when she was in hospital with an ovarian cyst and peritonitis when she should have been sitting her finals.

No Democrat is going to be able to be a great president while the current Republican party controls any of the branches of government, or is even close to doing so. But either Clinton or Obama might well have been, given the opportunity.

XemaSab

(60,212 posts)
21. B- or C+
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 06:39 PM
Mar 2016

He had the advantage of being president during an economic boom, much like Ronald Reagan did.

His policies, however, weren't that great.

Hard one to parse out.

Angel Martin

(942 posts)
22. Not an overall grade
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 06:43 PM
Mar 2016

but Clinton gets an F from me on: NAFTA, GATT, WTO and MFN for China as well as the repeal of Glass-Steagall.

 

MillennialDem

(2,367 posts)
23. Torn somewhere between low A and high C
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 06:51 PM
Mar 2016

I wasn't old enough to vote for him and also not really old enough to feel the economic impact.

He did a lot of shitty things DOMA, cutting social safety net, etc but did advance some things that were pretty revolutionary for the time like don't ask don't tell which was a good thing for the time. He also did leave a good economy and of course appointed supreme court justices like notorious RBG.

And this after 12 years of Reaganomics and a country that was much more conservative at the time.

So in an absolute sense, a high C.

In a relative sense, a low A or high B.

 

bigwillq

(72,790 posts)
25. Average. I voted "C" for purposes of this poll.
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 07:22 PM
Mar 2016

I felt Clinton was an average president. Did some good things, did some not some good things. Average, imo.

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