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phantom power

(25,966 posts)
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 12:30 PM Mar 2016

Charles Pierce: "You know who in the media really created He, Trump?"

...you see, I also read the work of many scurvy bloggers, and they were on to the potential of He, Trump's Big Con long before much of the elite political media tumbled to it, for reasons that will become obvious as we examine the other cilice that Kristof has tied around his career.

... self-flagellating bollocks from Kristof ...

This is all my bollocks on a number of levels. First, there are people covering the plight of the disappearing middle class all over the place—in local papers, in academic studies, on the electric teevee machine, and even in Kristof's own newspaper. There is a Democratic candidate for president whose entire damn campaign is based on the premise that the American middle class is going the way of the Anasazi. It's a little late for the elite political media that boomed "free trade" and the miracles of the "globalized economy" in a "flat" world to suddenly look up and discover that a 55-year old steelworker in Indiana likely will not be getting a job writing code for the Next New Thing. It's a little late for the elite political media to discover that de-unionization has not been altogether a boon in those few sectors of the industrial economy that haven't been cored out or sent to Vietnam.

But, in any case, as far as Kristof's main point goes, that's not the story that that "we in the media" missed. For four decades now, ever since Ronald Reagan fed it the monkeybrains in the 1980, hitching his party to the snake-oil of supply-side economics and to the sad remnants of white supremacy, often as expressed through an extremist splinter of American Protestantism, the Republican Party has been afflicted with the prion disease that now has blossomed into utter public madness. That's the story everyone was too blind, stupid, or afraid to tell. You know who in the media really created He, Trump? Anyone who laughed at Ronald Reagan's casual relationship with the truth and with empirical reality. Anyone who blew off Iran-Contra. Anyone who draped C-Plus Augustus in a toga after 9/11. Anyone who cast Newt Gingrich as a serious man of ideas. Anyone who cast Paul Ryan as an economic savant, that's who. Anyone who wrote admiring profiles of how shrewd Lee Atwater and Karl Rove were. Anyone who put Rush Limbaugh or Glenn Beck on the cover of national magazines based simply on their ratings. Anyone who put Matt Drudge on a public-affairs program. Anyone who watched the conservative movement, the only animating force the Republican party has, drive the party further and deeper into madness, they are the ones who share the blame. He, Trump merely has taken the bark off ideas that were treated as legitimate for far too long by far too many people, most of whom don't really give a damn about the plight of the vanishing middle class except for its use as fuel for rage-based, self-destructive politics.

http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/news/a43374/media-created-donald-trump/

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Charles Pierce: "You know who in the media really created He, Trump?" (Original Post) phantom power Mar 2016 OP
And let's talk about Reagan's ending of the Fairness Doctrine and refusing to enforce Sherman Dont call me Shirley Mar 2016 #1
Got to love it when some one points to the real Wellstone ruled Mar 2016 #2
Paul Wellstone... Dont call me Shirley Mar 2016 #3
And he did, Wellstone ruled Mar 2016 #4
We lost our next future POTUS imo. Rex Mar 2016 #7
He did instill a certain Wellstone ruled Mar 2016 #10
Katherine Graham is another. lark Mar 2016 #22
This message was self-deleted by its author HillareeeHillaraah Mar 2016 #5
Word! Then when we don't spend enough of our non-existent savings we get scolded by Wall Street. Rex Mar 2016 #6
+1000 mountain grammy Mar 2016 #9
.+1 840high Mar 2016 #12
With the cia's naked pics of the tortured, the constant surveillance of everyone, neverending Dont call me Shirley Mar 2016 #14
. BlancheSplanchnik Mar 2016 #30
Thank you. The airwaves still belong to the people. We lease them to the networks. JDPriestly Mar 2016 #8
Corporations are like kingdoms. The major difference is that a corporate kingdom shields their Dont call me Shirley Mar 2016 #16
^^^^^THIS^^^^^ RecoveringJournalist Mar 2016 #13
The commoditization of the Fourth Estate. Dont call me Shirley Mar 2016 #15
^ BlancheSplanchnik Mar 2016 #31
This message was self-deleted by its author silvershadow Mar 2016 #34
rw talk radio is worth about 5bil$ a year FREE in pro wall st republican propaganda certainot Mar 2016 #36
Another great Charlie mic drop...K&R..nt Wounded Bear Mar 2016 #11
I blame Mark Burnett. nt TeamPooka Mar 2016 #17
Charlie Pierces is simply the best The Blue Flower Mar 2016 #18
yes, the so called liberal media is indeed at fault. keep on sniffing reagan's ass cause he cut your pansypoo53219 Mar 2016 #19
Can't rec this fast enough AwakeAtLast Mar 2016 #20
Another Bullseye By Charlie colsohlibgal Mar 2016 #21
Once we turned a blind eye to the truth surrounding randr Mar 2016 #23
Ted Kennedy engineered the destruction of Carter's chances for success. ChairmanAgnostic Mar 2016 #35
Take FEAR and add HATE Thespian2 Mar 2016 #24
The media needs Trump Jack Rabbit Mar 2016 #25
fuck the media-- they are freaking killing us Fast Walker 52 Mar 2016 #29
Brilliant piece. GoneOffShore Mar 2016 #26
He nails it. Thanks so much for posting n/t emulatorloo Mar 2016 #27
the corporate media is a criminal enterprise and they need to be dissolved along with the GOP Fast Walker 52 Mar 2016 #28
+1,000,000 TIME TO PANIC Mar 2016 #32
Wow, this should be read with bullhorns to all Americans before they go to the polls this year. Major Hogwash Mar 2016 #33

Dont call me Shirley

(10,998 posts)
1. And let's talk about Reagan's ending of the Fairness Doctrine and refusing to enforce Sherman
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 12:39 PM
Mar 2016

Anti-trust Act. Then Bill's signing of the Communications Act making all of this crap the law of the land. The FCC was made a tool for billionaires and their kingdoms to twist reality and spew their vomitous lies. Then THEY blame all this shit THEY made on us, calling us stoopid, unfit to make decisions, unable to rule our own selves, causing our own sicknesses and global poisoning. The upper class created this shit and for this THEY must atone!

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
2. Got to love it when some one points to the real
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 12:50 PM
Mar 2016

cause and effects of today's Political Nightmares. Our trust in our Party's Leadership blinded many as to the reality of what was really going on in D.C.. Like one commentator said,it is all about the D.C. Cocktail Circuit,and in that lies the real story. Paul Wellstone always referred to Washington as a city in a bubble and they really do not care about anything or anyone who lives out side this bubble.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
7. We lost our next future POTUS imo.
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 01:54 PM
Mar 2016

If only he would have known how dangerous the Bush/Cheney administration was in it's totality. I was so ready to vote for him in the future as our political leader.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
10. He did instill a certain
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 02:09 PM
Mar 2016

fear into the Imperial Class. And his Grand Kids was his number one focus.

lark

(23,099 posts)
22. Katherine Graham is another.
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 06:34 PM
Mar 2016

She HATED shrub and so was mysteriously killed not long after he took office. I've always felt like this was no accident, it was done to shut her up. Washington Post changed greatly after her death.

Response to Dont call me Shirley (Reply #1)

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
6. Word! Then when we don't spend enough of our non-existent savings we get scolded by Wall Street.
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 01:52 PM
Mar 2016

So then we spend more then we have and pay off the interest at 27% to some nameless billionaire family. We kill each other every Black Friday for their amusement. We pawn off the furniture, because we are behind on our predatory loan at 29%. We mistakenly ask for maybe some help and get humiliated in public.

The wealthy know the jig is up, the question is how long will it be before substantial changes are made. This 55 year old, militant plutocracy needs to go bye bye.

Dont call me Shirley

(10,998 posts)
14. With the cia's naked pics of the tortured, the constant surveillance of everyone, neverending
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 02:36 PM
Mar 2016

Propaganda advertising, voter suppression and election fraud, assassinations of political leaders who empower the people, stealing of the people's wealth by an extreme minority named The Banksters, the planned dimunition of the middle class, the dumbing down and financial raping of our youth, the slumlording of our infrastructure, the endless wars for profit....

Yes, the militant plutocracy's time has reached its extreme uselessness and self-destruction.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
8. Thank you. The airwaves still belong to the people. We lease them to the networks.
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 01:59 PM
Mar 2016

Cable?????

Cities grant licenses to them.

The airwaves including those used by companies that transmit their information over satellites still belong to all of us.

Individuals can have privacy, but corporations??????

Dont call me Shirley

(10,998 posts)
16. Corporations are like kingdoms. The major difference is that a corporate kingdom shields their
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 02:43 PM
Mar 2016

King from the view of the public. So the Kings can maintain privacy while they steal the privacy of their corporate consumers.

13. ^^^^^THIS^^^^^
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 02:19 PM
Mar 2016

I've said for years that the end of the Fairness Doctrine is one of the prime factors in our collective slide toward stupidity.

The media gets it. Why be burdened with truth when lies are far more profitable?

Response to Dont call me Shirley (Reply #1)

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
36. rw talk radio is worth about 5bil$ a year FREE in pro wall st republican propaganda
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 10:57 AM
Mar 2016

at a cheap $1000/hr x 1200 stations x 15 hrs/day = 4.68 BIL$

the fairness doctrine was the key

once that happened after reagan killed the FD in 87, ALEC got going, record partisanship started, congress went south, reagan and his treasonous election thieving drug running criminal gang were turned into heroes. and it was easy to sell the tel com act.

blaming the upper class is too easy.

the left has stupidly ignored rw radio and still does.

that is ultimately what powers trump and cruz.

and these 90 universities hold the key to destroying the rw radio psyops.

ALABAMA 8 Auburn 3, Alabama 2, Southern Alabama 2, Troy 1
ARIZONA 2 Arizona St. 1, Arizona 1
ARKANSAS 3 Arkansas 3
CALIFORNIA 5 San Jose State 2, USC 2, Fresno St. 1
COLORADO 4 Air Force 2, Colorado 1, Colorado State 1
CONNECTICUT 1 Connecticut 1
FLORIDA 20 Florida 10, Florida St. 4 Miami 2, South Florida 2, Central Florida 2
GEORGIA 14 Georgia 7, Georgia Tech 5, Georgia Southern 2
IDAHO 7 Boise St. 4, Idaho 3
ILLINOIS 7 Illinois 7
INDIANA 11 Notre Dame 6, Purdue 4, Indiana 1
IOWA 5 Iowa 4, Iowa St. 1
KANSAS 4 Kansas St. 2, Kansas 1, Wichita St. 1
KENTUCKY 3 Louisville 2, Kentucky 1
LOUSIANA 3 LSU 2, La.-Monroe 1
MARYLAND 2 Maryland 2
MASSACHUSETTS 1 Boston College 1
MICHIGAN 19 Michigan St. 11, Michigan 7, Western Michigan 1
MINNESOTA 4 Minnesota 4
MISSISSIPPI 6 Mississippi St. 3, Mississippi 2, Southern Miss 1
MISSOURI 6 Missouri 6
NEBRASKA 6 Nebraska 6
NEVADA 1 Nevada 1
NEW JERSEY 2 Rutgers 1, Seton Hall 1
NEW MEXICO 3 New Mexico 2, New Mexico St. 1
NEW YORK 7 Syracuse 6, Army 1
NORTH CAROLINA 16 North Carolina 8, North Carolina State 3, Duke 3, East Carolina 2
OHIO 10 Ohio St. 6, Toledo 1, Dayton 1, Bowling Green 1, Xavier 1
OKLAHOMA 5 Oklahoma St. 3, Oklahoma 1, Oral Roberts 1
OREGON 12 Oregon St. 7, Oregon 5
PENNSYLVANIA 14 Penn St. 11, Pittsburgh 2, Temple 1
SOUTH CAROLINA 4 South Carolina 2, Clemson 2
TENNESSEE 7 Tennessee 4, Memphis 3
TEXAS 16 Texas A&M 9, Texas Tech 4, Texas 1, Texas Christian 1, Baylor 1
UTAH 1 Utah St. 1
VIRGINIA 6 Virginia Tech 5, Virginia 1
WASHINGTON 6 Washington 5, Washington St. 1
WEST VIRGINIA 2 West Virginia 1, Marshall 1
WISCONSIN 4 Wisconsin 4

pansypoo53219

(20,976 posts)
19. yes, the so called liberal media is indeed at fault. keep on sniffing reagan's ass cause he cut your
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 03:25 PM
Mar 2016

taxes, & real news is hard WERK!

SQUIRREL!

colsohlibgal

(5,275 posts)
21. Another Bullseye By Charlie
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 05:45 PM
Mar 2016

The doing away with the Fairness Doctrine Begat Faux News, etc. Faux being the wet dream of Lewis Powell since the early 70s, he proposed "GOP TV" and lo and behold it happened, right wing talking points round the clock. And enough of PT Barnum's suckers to lap it up. Low info, wrong info, etc.

We need a critical mass of folks to figure it out correctly....you non rich on the right wing.....you are being so played for the benefit of multi millionaires, not a few welfare queens. So figure it out!!

randr

(12,412 posts)
23. Once we turned a blind eye to the truth surrounding
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 07:24 PM
Mar 2016

the damnation of the Carter Presidency and subsequent atrocities under Reagan it was very easy to replace further truths with conspiracy and nonsense. We have been led down a dark path and it will be our salvation to recognize the scoundrels and castigate them with all the power we have.

ChairmanAgnostic

(28,017 posts)
35. Ted Kennedy engineered the destruction of Carter's chances for success.
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 09:04 AM
Mar 2016

He did it with malice, knowing what he was doing. He thought he could damage him enough so he could take the Oval Office. Instead, he laid the path for Reagan.

Jack Rabbit

(45,984 posts)
25. The media needs Trump
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 09:26 PM
Mar 2016

They've been looking for ratings gold ever since The Sarah Palin Show lost it's luster with the viewers and was cancelled. Sarah's happy because she gets to make a special guest appearance on The Donald Show. So does Chris Christie, who get to be Trump's straight man. Did you see that episode where Christie's pompous character came out to introduce The Donald at one of his speaking engagements, and then The Donald told him to get lost?

Major Hogwash

(17,656 posts)
33. Wow, this should be read with bullhorns to all Americans before they go to the polls this year.
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 02:22 AM
Mar 2016

Maybe then the American people will get a clue as to who sold us down the river without a paddle so long ago.

I wished I had written this.

Especially this part --

Anyone who laughed at Ronald Reagan's casual relationship with the truth and with empirical reality.


It wasn't funny to me to see a doddering old man daydream out loud in public in front of microphones and tv cameras while standing behind a podium with the Presidential Seal on it!!!

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