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Faygo Kid

(21,478 posts)
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 11:15 AM Mar 2016

Ted Cruz is the most dangerous demagogue of my lifetime

Donald Trump is a buffoon, and Rove and the rest of the GOP will take him down. But they are throwing their support to the most dangerous demagogue we have seen in the past 60 years, at least. Just finished watching Cruz speaking in Wisconsin, and he was throwing out every insincere "concern" imaginable. I go back a long way. This man is likely to be the GOP nominee, and we have never seen the (unlikeable) likes of him.

I'm 65, and sounding a warning bell here to any DUers who take this man for granted.

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Ted Cruz is the most dangerous demagogue of my lifetime (Original Post) Faygo Kid Mar 2016 OP
***DO NOT*** take Cruz for granted! Firebrand Gary Mar 2016 #1
+1 Faygo Kid Mar 2016 #4
I think he is terrifying. TNNurse Mar 2016 #21
He is a straight out Theocrat. annabanana Mar 2016 #25
He terrifies me! redstatebluegirl Mar 2016 #2
His whole persona is a carefully choreographed lie. Trust Buster Mar 2016 #3
If only we could find a candidate that inspires people GummyBearz Mar 2016 #5
Go back to the Primaries forum Democat Mar 2016 #8
I do envy you GummyBearz Mar 2016 #9
I am happy to support either Democrat against Trump Democat Mar 2016 #11
Someone who beats cruz by double digits instead of tying. SammyWinstonJack Mar 2016 #35
Theocrats usually are. HughBeaumont Mar 2016 #6
Such a piece of shit. zappaman Mar 2016 #7
He combines arrogance, egotism, meanness and ignorance, a fatal psychiatric cocktail. nt ladjf Mar 2016 #10
Yes. And I would add he's a religious zealot mnhtnbb Mar 2016 #12
He may be a religious zealot or might be just riding the "Jesus Train" for votes. ladjf Mar 2016 #36
He may be a religious zealot or might be just riding the "Jesus Train" for votes. ladjf Mar 2016 #36
Cruz has been hiding behind the bright glare of Trump this entire primary season FLPanhandle Mar 2016 #13
Both Cruz and Trump are nuts seanjoycek476 Mar 2016 #14
My southern baptists relatives in TN voted for Bernie and Rubio. Lars39 Mar 2016 #15
The get more scary every election. What's up with that? jalan48 Mar 2016 #16
Who'd have thought that party gets WORSE than W. every single cycle? HughBeaumont Mar 2016 #32
And Reagan was considered right wing when he ran. Now he's considered liberal. Strange. jalan48 Mar 2016 #34
He is horrible! mgardener Mar 2016 #17
Once again, Thank You, Wisconsin….. Demoiselle Mar 2016 #18
I believe there is NO WAY lastone Mar 2016 #19
I heard him speak and predicted that he will be the Republican candidate JDPriestly Mar 2016 #20
Sec. Clinton's biggest disadvantage is that she carries a lot of ladjf Mar 2016 #38
I couldn't agree more KauaiK Mar 2016 #22
Repugs have big money backers and that's always a threat. lark Mar 2016 #23
Ted Cruz is the worst kind of hypocrite!! KansDem Mar 2016 #24
Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2016 #26
These are great SheenaR Mar 2016 #27
And he will have help. Jackie Wilson Said Mar 2016 #28
He is 100x worse than Trump. He is the epitome of everything wrong with the right (nt) LostOne4Ever Mar 2016 #29
What everyone said, plus, he is brilliant, according to Alan Derschowitz. MoonRiver Mar 2016 #30
I agree wholeheartedly. He's much scarier than Trump. fbc Mar 2016 #31
Yes. He's a dangerous theocrat. emulatorloo Mar 2016 #33
Definitely scarier than Trump. pat_k Mar 2016 #39

Firebrand Gary

(5,044 posts)
1. ***DO NOT*** take Cruz for granted!
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 11:19 AM
Mar 2016

He's the most dangerous of the lot! His ideology scares the hell out of me! I will max out my democratic party contributions and volunteer until November to keep him from the oval.

I find it so laughable that a guy born in Canada is receiving all of these endorsements from birther republicans-pathetic!

TNNurse

(6,926 posts)
21. I think he is terrifying.
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 01:43 PM
Mar 2016

Trump is a big mouthed, bigoted buffoon. He stirs up hatred and bigotry.

Cruz is very very very dangerous.

Trump is a blowhard seeking attention.

Cruz believes everything he says and he believes he is very special and knows what is right for everyone else.

He is scarier than anyone I have ever seen in public life in all my 66 years.

redstatebluegirl

(12,265 posts)
2. He terrifies me!
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 11:19 AM
Mar 2016

It concerns me that we as Democrats are so busy going after each other in the primaries that we are forgetting how dangerous this guy could be to our country. I am 61 (almost) and I can't remember anyone who scared me as much. I remember my parents talking about McCarthy and he sure seems to share a lot of traits with him, not to mention the swarmy looks.

 

GummyBearz

(2,931 posts)
5. If only we could find a candidate that inspires people
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 11:38 AM
Mar 2016

based on a long record... something like more than 1 term in the senate and 1 term as a failure in the cabinet. Someone who has been on the correct side of domestic policy as well as standing up against bad foreign policies. Everyone would surely rally behind such a candidate and Ted Cruz wouldn't be an issue

Democat

(11,617 posts)
8. Go back to the Primaries forum
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 11:49 AM
Mar 2016

The candidate who wins will be the one who inspired the most Democrats.

 

GummyBearz

(2,931 posts)
9. I do envy you
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 11:56 AM
Mar 2016

"The candidate who wins will be the one who inspired the most Democrats."

It must be relaxing to not have to think about voting

Democat

(11,617 posts)
11. I am happy to support either Democrat against Trump
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 12:11 PM
Mar 2016

I am a lot more worried about what a President Trump would do to gay and lesbian Americans and others than the small differences between Clinton and Sanders.

ladjf

(17,320 posts)
36. He may be a religious zealot or might be just riding the "Jesus Train" for votes.
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 08:33 PM
Mar 2016

Either way, we would be in an unbelievable mess if he were to be elected. Not only from the direct
damage he would cause from his stupid and mean actions but for the Country to have to own up to electing such an unsuitable candidate. Are the crazy? Well, if that elected him, they would have to be bug nuts.


What a choice! Trump or Cruz.

Ironically, at the same time America has the unique opportunity to elect one of the most qualified
politicians in our History and I'm referring to Senator Sanders. (Cue Hillary fans.to rebut this.)

ladjf

(17,320 posts)
36. He may be a religious zealot or might be just riding the "Jesus Train" for votes.
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 08:33 PM
Mar 2016

Either way, we would be in an unbelievable mess if he were to be elected. Not only from the direct
damage he would cause from his stupid and mean actions but for the Country to have to own up to electing such an unsuitable candidate. Are the crazy? Well, if that elected him, they would have to be bug nuts.


What a choice! Trump or Cruz.

Ironically, at the same time America has the unique opportunity to elect one of the most qualified
politicians in our History and I'm referring to Senator Sanders. (Cue Hillary fans.to rebut this.)

FLPanhandle

(7,107 posts)
13. Cruz has been hiding behind the bright glare of Trump this entire primary season
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 12:47 PM
Mar 2016

Everyone is so focused on Trump who is no threat to win the White House, and Cruz is waiting in the wings, winning states, making himself the alternative to Trump

If the election was between Trump and Cruz, I'd crawl over broken glass to vote for Trump in order to keep Cruz out of power.

That bastard is so crazy, he would push the button just to bring about the end times.

Lars39

(26,109 posts)
15. My southern baptists relatives in TN voted for Bernie and Rubio.
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 01:17 PM
Mar 2016

Nary a mention of Cruz. Totally shocked me.

HughBeaumont

(24,461 posts)
32. Who'd have thought that party gets WORSE than W. every single cycle?
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 02:36 PM
Mar 2016

Just think of how bad Bush was (it's not hard, as we'll be digging out from that disaster for years).

The policies these guys dream up make W. look like a two-car accident. It's almost like one has to go out of their WAY to be THAT bad.

mgardener

(1,816 posts)
17. He is horrible!
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 01:37 PM
Mar 2016

He scares me more then T-rump.
His religiosity is above and beyond most evangelicals,he is nasty and a liar.

He cannot become POTUS. I think he scares the Republicans too.

Demoiselle

(6,787 posts)
18. Once again, Thank You, Wisconsin…..
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 01:38 PM
Mar 2016

No, no no. I know it's not your fault, Wisconsin. But it is distressing.

 

lastone

(588 posts)
19. I believe there is NO WAY
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 01:38 PM
Mar 2016

Cruz gets elected in a general...

I think he'll have the reverse bern effect - the more people hear of / know him the LESS liked he will be, max 25% of the gen pop votes for this guy. remove drumpf and the free media ride for the gop is over and he'll die on the vine - whining while withering away.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
20. I heard him speak and predicted that he will be the Republican candidate
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 01:43 PM
Mar 2016

when all is said and done. The results of the primaries and caucuses suggest Trump will be the candidate, but I heard on KPFK yesterday that Republican rules require that the winner have 50.1 percent (if I understood what was said correctly) of the votes in the primaries and caucuses going into the primary to be nominated. It would be very difficult, maybe impossible, for Trump to achieve that goal.

So it may be an open convention in which case, Cruz would be the compromise candidate provided no scandals or other problems make his candidacy impossible.

Cruz is a fantastic speaker for Evangelicals and fanatic conservatives. He gets this revival tone in his voice and that carries crowds.

Hillary with her dry speaking tone, her utterly detached, unemotional presence, her awkwardness, etc. is no match for Ted Cruz in terms of appealing to a crowd.

Bernie comes closest to being able to compete with Ted Cruz's speaking ability. That's because Bernie is genuine and sincere while Ted Cruz is an Elmer Gantry if you are familiar with that story. Ted Cruz manipulates his crowd. Bernie fires it up with genuine emotion.

I do not think that Hillary will make a good candidate against Ted Cruz. She will be lost and not know how to deal with him.

I recognized the speaking power of Ted Cruz with regard to his likely audiences because I grew up going to old-time revivals and listening to evangelists. There is a certain style, a certain rhythm and tone -- it's almost like a singing style -- that moves certain audiences. Ted Cruz learned this from his father and from the religious culture that he grew up in.

Ted Cruz will make Hillary look even more elite and intellectual and colder than she is. Not a good match for Democrats, but who knows? Ted Cruz is the kind of guy who could well have a skeleton in his closet that makes some Evangelicals uncomfortable but that is a long shot, a very long shot.

Hillary would win on the issues, I suppose, but Ted Cruz's speaking ability will be tough for Hillary to deal with.

No problem for Bernie however. Bernie would make Ted Cruz look like an irrelevant fool.

ladjf

(17,320 posts)
38. Sec. Clinton's biggest disadvantage is that she carries a lot of
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 08:37 PM
Mar 2016

"political baggage" and true or not, that baggage hurts her image with millions of Americans.
(I know, millions of Americans also love her.)

In a head to head with vicious people like Cruz and Trump, that controversies surrounding her will
be maximized to world class character assassins.

lark

(23,097 posts)
23. Repugs have big money backers and that's always a threat.
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 02:08 PM
Mar 2016

We can't take any Repug candidate lightly with the Koch whores billions behind him. Cruz, however, is a total religious radical idiot who I do believe is beatable, especially by Bernie. Not saying it'll be a day at the beach, but I sincerely believe he can be overcome with a lot of effort and a good ground game.

KansDem

(28,498 posts)
24. Ted Cruz is the worst kind of hypocrite!!
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 02:13 PM
Mar 2016

He is fervently anti-choice---

Planned Parenthood sells body parts of unborn human beings. (Sep 2015)
Allow vote to end Planned Parenthood's funding. (Aug 2015)
Prosecute Planned Parenthood for criminal violations. (Aug 2015)
Ban taxpayer funding of abortion & partial birth abortion. (Mar 2015)
Companies can deny insuring birth control. (Apr 2012)
Protect innocent human life with partial-birth ban. (Jul 2011)
Opposes public abortion funding. (Oct 2012)
Opposes churches providing birth control. (Oct 2012)

http://www.ontheissues.org/Senate/Ted_Cruz.htm


But advocates carpet bombing in the mid-East---
http://www.businessinsider.com/ted-cruz-isis-carpet-bomb-strategy-2016-1


So, Ted, how many children would you murder with carpet bombing? Ever think of that, Asshole?!!

Response to Faygo Kid (Original post)

Jackie Wilson Said

(4,176 posts)
28. And he will have help.
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 02:20 PM
Mar 2016
http://www.ncsl.org/research/elections-and-campaigns/voter-id.aspx

There is a very well orchestrated attack of voting rights in this country.

Good thing it isnt happening in Canada or Switzerland, we would have to send in troops.

MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
30. What everyone said, plus, he is brilliant, according to Alan Derschowitz.
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 02:25 PM
Mar 2016

who was his professor at Harvard law school. Derschowitz said Cruz was among the smartest students he has ever taught. Cruz's fanaticism plus cunning intellect scare me to death!

http://www.dcclothesline.com/2015/03/24/liberal-alan-dershowitz-ted-cruz-was-among-the-smartest-students-ive-ever-taught/

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