Debbie's Record

[Scuba]

Here's what I could find ...

Lost the House, the Senate and over 900 state seats while Chair of the DNC
Supported Republicans over Democrats in two Florida districts
Conceded entire districts to the Louis Gohmerts and Joni Ernsts of this world by abandoning the 50-state strategy
Supported a Republican retread for the Florida Democratic Party Gubernatorial candidate (he lost to Rick Scott, again)
Undermined President Obama's treaty with Iran
Shilled for the private prison industry
Shilled for the booze industry
Shilled for the payday loan industry
Blamed the voters for her failures

There must be more. Some here insist she's a progressive. President Obama says so himself!

What progressive legislation has she introduced or otherwise supported?

What progressive candidates has she backed?

What other progressive actions has she taken that I've missed?

[MADem]

1. Barack Obama, POTUS and party head, hired her and likes her. He even endorsed her in her primary.

Joe Biden has her back, too.

[theaocp]

10. What other gov't official would you NOT apply that

logic to? It appears to be the complete absence of your own critical analysis. Four legs good, two legs bad only works for so long.

[MADem]

12. I'm not even sure what you're trying to say, there. Any attempt to liken Barack Obama to

a character from Animal Farm is completely not working for me, though.

[theaocp]

51. It's a reference to blind support.

I don't like the idea that anyone supports something just because the leader supports it.

[w4rma]

75. Hillary's wing of the Democratic Party is the authoritarian wing.

Blind support and name recognition is their motto. They would rather you not ask questions or learn too much about why they do the things we don't want them to do.

[Gore1FL]

23. There are many examples of failures in this administration.

This would be one.

[Phlem]

39. All your going to get is "I don't see anything wrong."

That's it.

Rinse and repeat.

[greiner3]

49. As Obama admitted

Rise of the KKK. Guantanamo prison. Single Payer. Hiring of DWS

[Rex]

59. Better Believe it!

[roody]

64. Can you name her accomplishments? That is the question.

[BuelahWitch]

100. Somehow convincing important people she is competent

when she really isn't. Obama should have deep sixed her after the Bloodbath of '14.

[MADem]

115. She is not my representative and I do not live in her district. Why would I retain a laundry list

of her achievements?

She answers to the people in her district, not me, when it comes to her position in the House.

She answers to Barack Obama, not me, when it comes to her position as DNC chair. He's the party head, and he likes the work she's done for him.

[Funtatlaguy]

2. If her Dem primary opponent can walk and

chew gum, he should easily defeat her.
He should be able to fund raise easily and get a lot of volunteers.

Go Tim Go!!!
https://timcanova.com/

[Scuba]

3. Thanks for adding that link.

[CrispyQ]

4. She is the new democratic party.

Some election, perhaps this one, Dem leadership is going to be surprised that their We Suck Less campaign strategy doesn't work anymore. The way they are behaving, I can't decide if they think they can win without the left or if they think we will get in line like we have in the past.

[Scuba]

5. Based on the record I cited, that strategy never worked ...

Obama ran on "hope and change," not "we suck less."


Except for the White House, we've lost and lost and lost. I guess they're OK with that. Maybe that was their plan. You know, 3D chess of some sort beyond the grasp of us little people.

[Hoppy]

11. Well, this honky ain't gonna just get in line.

[jtuck004]

6. Sounds like a broken record. n/t

[jalan48]

7. I guess this tells us who Obama supports in the Presidential primary.

[billhicks76]

94. Donate $ To Tim Canova

Send a message to these corporate gigalos.

[chknltl]

8. KnR nt

[Cryptoad]

9. Now we have Bern and the neo Progressive ""Fourth Way"

Progressive Movement is now set back 50 years.

[LiberalArkie]

16. More like 70 years to the Roosevelt era where Progressive got started

[Gore1FL]

24. Bernie is actually the 2nd way.

He more closely the ideals we had as a party before we decided to hide scared in the corner as an official strategy.

[libdem4life]

27. Proud FDR Democrat here...I'd call that the First Way.

Oh, and he got all the crap being slung too, as has been slung at what I believe to be his predecesssor...Bernie Sanders.

Establishment status quo good...Progress and moving forward into some uncharted area, not so much. Yet, he took it and moved forward for the good of the country. That's a Leader.

Every month I get my Social Security Check, I'm grateful for his foresight.

He had an advantage as already being the President, so we'll just have to work a bit harder.

[Phlem]

40. ...

Jesus we are fucked if that's what you and the rest of the Hillary supporters think.

[greiner3]

50. Isn't that about when Hillary

Was a Goldwater Girl and one who did not repudiate segregation.

[Dont call me Shirley]

69. By Bill Clinton and the DLC, they would gladly burn down the New Deal to ashes.

[mwooldri]

83. Please explain... I don't understand.

Also this term "neo progressive" - is it anything like "neo liberal" ? And is the Third Way neo-liberal? Third Way btw being Tony Blair and you know what he did with George W Bush....

[Loki]

13. No citations?

Guess we can post anything now.

Care to read something that can be cited? Probably not. Ever heard of American Crossroads? If you are really paying attention, I'm sure you have.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/17/us/politics/the-right-aims-at-democrats-on-social-media-to-hit-clinton.html?_r=0

[Fuddnik]

15. I can give you an eyewitness account to her treason in Florida Congressional races.

I WAS THERE!

[Loki]

17. Really, come to Missouri

and I'll show you tea party counties that voted for BS. Yea right.

[Fuddnik]

18. i was managing a Congressional campaign in Florida in 2006.

We beat the party's DLC favorite by 10 pts in the primary, and Debbie Disaster came along and endorsed her "friend", our Republican opponent. Same year she refused to support 3 South Florida Democrats, because they were running against her "friends", 3 of the most extreme Republicans in the House.

[HughBeaumont]

29. Debbie Disasterman Schultz.

[Fantastic Anarchist]

111. Debbie Lieberman Schultz. nt

[HughBeaumont]

112. Pretty much.

That fucker was, I believe, the person most responsible for losing 2000.

[Fantastic Anarchist]

113. Yep. Most definitely.

[Nite Owl]

76. Yuk

that's like party treason and she was appointed head of the DNC? Definitely a lot wrong. SIck,sick, sick

[billhicks76]

91. Whoa

What a piece of garbage. She supported the republicans? That's enough evidence she is a fake democrat implant.

[corkhead]

107. totally off topic but you need the new colbert emoji for your avatar

[Fantastic Anarchist]

110. So, she's Joe Lieberman in drag. nt

[Scuba]

19. Last I checked, the Tea Party members I knew weren't Democrats. This thread is about Democrats.

[Scuba]

21. The new Democratic Party Motto: Better than the Tea Party

[Loki]

52. I live in Missouri

I know those counties that voted for BS. They are not Democratic held counties by a long shot. So Republican's came to the polls and voted in the OPEN primary for BS. You may not like it, but that's the way it was. I doubt that Democrats voted for him in this open primary, Republicans voted against Hillary. They knew Trump or Cruz would win easily, so they acted as spoilers. You really think he won? Boy, I laugh out loud when I hear you say that. You don't know my state at all.

[Dustlawyer]

78. Living where I do I know a lot of Tea Party voters. They would rather have Bernie for President

than Hillary, who they despise. They are sick of their own Establishment, but many support Bernie because they are not into Trump's hate. Sure most like Trump, but many do not think he can win the General for the same reason. They hate Bernie's policies in general, but they are sick of the corruption as well. Hillary has brought home to them just who has caused their problems, the ones donating to her. It opened their eyes to notice how their own have many of the same donors.

Bernie's taking on the real power in this country and they know it.

[Loki]

79. You live in Texas?

So did I for 14 years. In Houston. You make me laugh. It's not Missouri sorry. I don't know of any mouth breathing tea party idiots that know enough about Bernie to have an informed opinion except the word "socialist". You might just as well say "communist". They are good for Trump all the way. I'm sure you've heard of American Crossroads yes? They've done a really good job on you.

[roody]

80. I'm glad they did.

[Loki]

99. You don't understand.

They have no intention of voting for him if he should be in the general. None.

[roody]

114. Thats your perogative.

[freebrew]

103. Total Bull...

I live in a red county. I'm a Democrat.

I voted for Bernie!

I don't know WTH you live, but the teabaggers here voted for Cruz.

No one I know crossed party lines. Got any proof?

[mountain grammy]

33. The OP asked a question,

if you want to defend DWS, where are you're citations? She's not mentioned at all in your link.

Go ahead, defend DWS and post a rebuttal. We're waiting.

[GoneOffShore]

67. And it's almost four hours later.

One would think what with teh Google and the intertubes that some sort of answer would be forthcoming.

But nope, crickets.

As to be expected.

[Fuddnik]

14. Debbie, Obama, and Biden are also supporting ANOTHER Republican retread in Florida.

Patrick Murphy over Alan Grayson.

And for the record, she supported at least 5 republicans over democrats in Florida congressional races.

Since Obama and Biden support this ongoing disaster, I guess it says as much about them.

[billhicks76]

92. That Is Treasonous

She should be tossed out.

[pengu]

102. Murphy is just awful

He was a max Romney donor.

[noamnety]

106. I'd love to know what hillary supporters think of this!

"Murphy was a member of the Republican Party, donating the maximum individual contribution of $2,300 to Mitt Romney's 2008 presidential campaign and $4,800 to other Republican candidates, until four months prior to announcing his candidacy for Congress, at which time he switched his registration to the Democratic Party and donated $4,000 to a variety of Democratic candidates."

So the DNC chair supports this person - while her cheerleaders are freaking out because Bernie isn't enough of a democrat to run as one.

[ciaobaby]

20. all of the above

This is why I am embarrassed to be a Democrat. The party thinks I have no brain ! The party thinks I am a lemming, just go along to get along and accept anything that comes out of a party leaders mouth. No More - not working.
I am so feeling the Bern.

[lark]

22. Answers

None
None
None

She's about as far from a progressive as they come. She reminds me of the other AIPAC shill, Liarman.

[Fuddnik]

37. And Rahm.

Rahmmy, Debbie, and Joe.

The Three Stooges.

Somebody could make a nice shirt out of that.

[FlatBaroque]

101. forget not

Chuck Chuck the AIPAC schmuck

[lark]

108. Yep, totally agree

All 3 are the opposite of progressive.

I'd buy the shirt.

[Helen Borg]

25. Sounds like she did worse than an empty seat.

And she even got paid!

[dsharp88]

26. She should be definitely be replaced as DNC head. n/t

[n2doc]

28. I'm still waiting for someone to post good things about her on this thread

Other than the fact that BHO supports her. Come on, she must have a record of positive accomplishments that Party loyalists can point to! Anyone? I am surprised no one has tallied up the money she has raised or something like that. Of course, what was that money spent on and who did it help elect?

Attacks on sources or posters do not count, folks.

[Scuba]

30. You noticed that too, eh?

Conspicuous by its absence, Debbie's progressive record.

[n2doc]

104. Yeah and so far the non-insult replies are of 2 types

1, she wasn't chair in 2010 so all the losses are on Kaine (except for that unmentioned part about losing the senate and even more house seats in 2014)
2. She tried really hard to defeat Ernst and Scott. She really did! Just didn't quite work out.

Now, if that is a 'success' I want to know what a failure is.

[SHRED]

31. Debbie joins Republicans

For this alone she should fired and NOT endorsed:

DNC Chair Joins GOP Attack On Elizabeth Warren’s Agency

Payday lenders get a new ally

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/debbie-wasserman-schultz-paylenders-cfpb_us_56d4ce38e4b03260bf77e8fc

[TryLogic]

32. I just pointed this out to Obama (whitehouse.gov)

[Plucketeer]

35. If he reads it

he'll just smile.

[GoneOffShore]

34. I guess to be part of the New Democratic Party you have to pass a different sort of Wasserman test.

One where you support Republicans and corporations.

[Fuddnik]

38. Wasserboarding?

[GoneOffShore]

42. Well, you do know what a Wasserman test is, right?

It's the name for the original test to determine if one has syphilis.

[Fuddnik]

55. Nope. Didn't know that.

Thanks.

Could we get rid of her with penicillin?

[AtheistCrusader]

36. Relations between labor unions and the Democratic Party have fallen to dire straits under her watch.

Major union leaders have been warning our party for years now, that we can't just assume their support, if we don't start actually delivering on some shit when in power.

Edit: Removing older politico link:

"Here's labor getting thrown under the bus again," said John Gage, the national president of the American Federation of Government Employees, which represents 600,000 workers. "It's really frustrating for labor, and a lot of union people are thinking: We put out big time in money and volunteers and support. And it seems like the little things that could have been aren't being done."

That's a continuous drumbeat I've been hearing for at least 4 years now. Surest way to lose Labor support, is to continue taking them for granted. They could just stay home, or form an independent party.

DWS is part of setting the tone and priorities of the party, meaning, a large part of that problem.

[blackspade]

41. She is a terrible DNC chair.

[GoneOffShore]

43. Nailed it.

[Nite Owl]

77. Has there been

anyone worse than her? She's a total loser.

[Octafish]

44. THAT is a great post! All verifiable via the GOOGLE!

Thank you, Scuba! Amazing what one can learn by reading.

For instance, Rep. Wasserman Schultz stated she never heard about President Obama's drone assassination program that had killed US citizens:

The remarkable, unfathomable ignorance of Debbie Wasserman Schultz

The Chair of the Democratic National Committee is completely unaware of one of the biggest stories of the Obama years

by Glenn Greenwald
The Guardian, Oct. 20, 2012

That Obama has a "kill list" has been known since January, 2010, and has been widely reported and discussed in every major American newspaper since April 2010. A major controversy over chronic White House leaks often featured complaints about this article (New York Times, 5 June 2012: "Senators to Open Inquiry Into 'Kill List' and Iran Security Leaks&quot . The Attorney General, Eric Holder, gave a major speech defending it.

But Debbie Wasserman Schultz, the Democratic Congresswoman from Florida and the Chairwoman of the Democratic National Committee, does not know about any of this. She has never heard of any of it. She has managed to remain completely ignorant about the fact that President Obama has asserted and exercised the power to secretly place human beings, including US citizens, on his "kill list" and then order the CIA to extinguish their lives.

Just marvel at this stunning, completely inexcusable two-minute display of wholesale ignorance by this elected official and DNC chair. Here she is after the second presidential debate being asked by Luke Rudkowski of We Are Change about the "kill list" and whether Romney should be trusted with this power. She doesn't defend the "kill list". She doesn't criticize it. She makes clear that she has never heard of it and then contemptuously treats Rudkowski like he is some sort of frivolous joke for thinking that it is real:

Anyone who observes politics closely has a very low bar of expectations. It's almost inevitable to become cynical - even jaded - about just how inept and inane top Washington officials are. Still, even processing this through those lowly standards, I just find this staggering. Staggering and repellent. This is an elected official in Congress, the body that the Constitution designed to impose checks on the president's abuses of power, and she does not have the foggiest idea what is happening in the White House, and obviously does not care in the slightest, because the person doing it is part of the party she leads.

CONTINUED...

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2012/oct/20/wasserman-schultz-kill-list

That's the kind of important thing people in Democratic leadership positions need to know, I would think. Thanks for being on top of it, Scuba!

[Phlem]

45. The Thirdway influence doesn't even try to hide anymore.

This is all simple neo liberal, Thirdway strategy at work. All very basic, all very easy to understand, all very revealing, yet will still escape basic analysis from the general US population. Yes some willfully ignore it and double down on the spin.

This fucking wheel keeps going round and round yet we have a nation of people who fucking don't get it.

Ugh! Just,......fuck.

[Tragl1]

48. Can I just agree and add one more...

[djean111]

46. She, and the rest of the membership of the Third-Way-advised New Democrat Coalition,

are DINOs, and I will not vote for or support any of them, come what may.

[Still In Wisconsin]

47. Debbie Disaster... master of pulling defeat out from the jaws of victory. She is like

an NFL coach who goes 1-15 in three consecutive seasons. Is is ALL her fault? Obviously not. Is she a competent leader of the party though? Again, obvously not.

[Trajan]

53. I am so glad you came back!

Hell yes! ... That silly lady had got to go ...

The whole DLC/Third Way cabal has got to be tossed out on their ears ....

[SoapBox]

54. Proggressive alright...

Progressively moving us to the Right.

Thanks for nothing, Little Debbie.

[d_legendary1]

60. You and me both!

He's to Tim!!!

[lakeguy]

57. She would have been kicked from DU long ago if she was a member

for supporting republicans over democrats.

[Scuba]

66. +1

[Dont call me Shirley]

70. Astute observation, lakeguy! She would have been pitched out with no goodbye!

[Rex]

58. Wait...she supported Repukes over Dems in Florida?

WTF!?

[SHRED]

61. Yep...HERE:

Controversy arose in March 2008 when she announced that she would be unable to campaign against South Florida Republican representatives Lincoln Diaz-Balart, Mario Diaz-Balart and Ileana Ros-Lehtinen because of her good friendship with them.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debbie_Wasserman_Schultz#2008

[Rex]

62. I cannot support in good faith, a party leader that supports Republicans over Dems.

Thanks, how horrible and yet she is loved by the D.C. crowd...they should be ashamed.

[turbinetree]

63. And to add to this mix..................................by golly--------------

look who made this list..............................I rest my case........................and we are "all" waiting for the final shoe to drop....................this year---------------------


https://ourfuture.org/20150615/the-28-democrats-who-voted-for-fast-track



Honk-----------------for a political revolution Bernie 2016

[B Calm]

65. She needs to resign and change political parties!

[Thespian2]

68. You got it right, Scuba...

As some have suggested, she should join the party she most often supports...the Republican Party...I don't believe Dems need a loser like her...even if Obama supports her...

[Dont call me Shirley]

71. Dump Debbie!

[whereisjustice]

72. She progressed the pay scale for the 1%, fucking over everyone else. That's what she has done.

[emsimon33]

73. K&R

[StevieM]

74. Wrong. DWS was not party chair until April 2011. Tim Kaine was the original DNC Chair

when Obama first took office. He presided over the 2010 mid-term elections when most of our losses happened. Not that I blame him either.

Isn't Louis Gohmert in a safe GOP district? How is it her fault if we couldn't field an opponent against him? (I didn't realize we hadn't).

And we all tried our best to beat Jonie Ernst. She had an opponent, Representative Bruce Braley. We ran a sitting member of the House of Representatives. We didn't concede the race--we just lost.

Running Charlie Crist, who was a popular governor, wasn't exactly a crazy thing to do. Besides, he had to win the primary. In the end, it was the Democratic voters who chose him

I don't see how you think she has undermined President Obama's agreement with Iran. (It isn't a "treaty," for the record). She voted for it. But every member of Congress is entitled to their feelings, and to vote their conscience. Chuck Schumer, our incoming Senate Democratic Leader (hopefully the Majority Leader), voted against it. I doubt that President Obama believes that he betrayed him.

[Feeling the Bern]

82. damn progressives and liberals

if only they would sacrifice principle for party. . .how dare they want things they support.

maybe we should purge them and become the republican lite party. after all, what have progressives and liberals ever done?

time for a purge. purge those fucking progressives. they destroyed the party. party over principles!!!!

christ, what have we as democrats become?

[Firebrand Gary]

84. We're all progressive here! nt

[hfojvt]

89. thanks, that echoes some of what I said

Not sure about the primary of Florida or Louis Gohmert.

[avaistheone1]

85. A MIGHTY K&R

[Spitfire of ATJ]

86. They say she's a progressive because she supports Hillary....

Hillary must be a progressive because she says so.

Of course those same folks are obsessed with not giving away free stuff and say people should have to work for it.

[the_sly_pig]

87. FDWS.

[hfojvt]

88. I would argue

that a Republican retread should be highly electaible in a Red area.

So that is not all bad.

I might also argue with the inclusion of Joni Ernst. If you abandon a 50 state strategy, that does NOT mean you are abandoning Iowa. In fact, you should be MORE likely to win a state like Iowa because you are NOT wasting resources in Wyoming or Utah or Oklahoma and you have more to put into an Iowa campaign.

It's not entirely fair to blame her for the bloodbath of 2010 either. In fact, I think whats his name was probably still chair then - Tim Kaine, wasn't it? The House was already lost when she became chair. Yep Kaine was in until 2011. So a lot of the losses did NOT happen under DWS. We may even have come back some in 2012 and broke even in 2014.

[Warren DeMontague]

90. Teamed up with sheldon adelson and voted repeatedly to send medical marijuana users to prison

[billhicks76]

93. I Hope She Ends Up In A Worse Prison

Maybe when she gets cancer she can be told she's not allowed to treat it.

[Warren DeMontague]

95. I would not wish that on anyone, even someone who despicably votes to put sick pot users in prison.

She must be very proud of herself, and her repeated votes to send sick grannies to prison for eating a pot brownie.

[billhicks76]

96. I Said If She Gets Cancer

The worse was a reference to worse than prison and really I'm just beside myself someone can be so two-faced and evil and supported by some Democrats.

[Warren DeMontague]

98. Yeah, I know.

It's amazing. And people still line up to defend her, after she doubles down on that and does the payday loan shit, etc.

[Jeffersons Ghost]

97. K&R but "tremendous force has been built up."

[zentrum]

105. She abandoned the

…..the 50 State strategy by design together with the Establishment, because it empowered ordinary people too much. They don't want us involved. We are to be merely the receivers of their decisions for us.

They want us to trust, but never verify.

[hopemountain]

116. she has a fervent disdain for the

grassroots. i swear, venom drips off her lips when she says "grassroots".

[The Wizard]

109. Democrats would be wise

to jettison this shit bag fake Democrat.