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Tue Mar 29, 2016, 12:47 PM

 

Debbie's Record

Here's what I could find ...

Lost the House, the Senate and over 900 state seats while Chair of the DNC
Supported Republicans over Democrats in two Florida districts
Conceded entire districts to the Louis Gohmerts and Joni Ernsts of this world by abandoning the 50-state strategy
Supported a Republican retread for the Florida Democratic Party Gubernatorial candidate (he lost to Rick Scott, again)
Undermined President Obama's treaty with Iran
Shilled for the private prison industry
Shilled for the booze industry
Shilled for the payday loan industry
Blamed the voters for her failures

There must be more. Some here insist she's a progressive. President Obama says so himself!

What progressive legislation has she introduced or otherwise supported?

What progressive candidates has she backed?

What other progressive actions has she taken that I've missed?


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Scuba Mar 2016 OP
MADem Mar 2016 #1
theaocp Mar 2016 #10
MADem Mar 2016 #12
theaocp Mar 2016 #51
w4rma Mar 2016 #75
Gore1FL Mar 2016 #23
Phlem Mar 2016 #39
greiner3 Mar 2016 #49
Rex Mar 2016 #59
roody Mar 2016 #64
BuelahWitch Mar 2016 #100
MADem Mar 2016 #115
Funtatlaguy Mar 2016 #2
Scuba Mar 2016 #3
CrispyQ Mar 2016 #4
Scuba Mar 2016 #5
Hoppy Mar 2016 #11
jtuck004 Mar 2016 #6
jalan48 Mar 2016 #7
billhicks76 Mar 2016 #94
chknltl Mar 2016 #8
Cryptoad Mar 2016 #9
LiberalArkie Mar 2016 #16
Gore1FL Mar 2016 #24
libdem4life Mar 2016 #27
Phlem Mar 2016 #40
greiner3 Mar 2016 #50
Dont call me Shirley Mar 2016 #69
mwooldri Mar 2016 #83
Loki Mar 2016 #13
Fuddnik Mar 2016 #15
Loki Mar 2016 #17
Fuddnik Mar 2016 #18
HughBeaumont Mar 2016 #29
Fantastic Anarchist Mar 2016 #111
HughBeaumont Mar 2016 #112
Fantastic Anarchist Mar 2016 #113
Nite Owl Mar 2016 #76
billhicks76 Mar 2016 #91
corkhead Mar 2016 #107
Fantastic Anarchist Mar 2016 #110
Scuba Mar 2016 #19
Scuba Mar 2016 #21
Loki Mar 2016 #52
Dustlawyer Mar 2016 #78
Loki Mar 2016 #79
roody Mar 2016 #80
Loki Mar 2016 #99
roody Mar 2016 #114
freebrew Mar 2016 #103
mountain grammy Mar 2016 #33
GoneOffShore Mar 2016 #67
Fuddnik Mar 2016 #14
billhicks76 Mar 2016 #92
pengu Mar 2016 #102
noamnety Mar 2016 #106
ciaobaby Mar 2016 #20
lark Mar 2016 #22
Fuddnik Mar 2016 #37
FlatBaroque Mar 2016 #101
lark Mar 2016 #108
Helen Borg Mar 2016 #25
dsharp88 Mar 2016 #26
n2doc Mar 2016 #28
Scuba Mar 2016 #30
n2doc Mar 2016 #104
SHRED Mar 2016 #31
TryLogic Mar 2016 #32
Plucketeer Mar 2016 #35
GoneOffShore Mar 2016 #34
Fuddnik Mar 2016 #38
GoneOffShore Mar 2016 #42
Fuddnik Mar 2016 #55
AtheistCrusader Mar 2016 #36
blackspade Mar 2016 #41
GoneOffShore Mar 2016 #43
Nite Owl Mar 2016 #77
Octafish Mar 2016 #44
Phlem Mar 2016 #45
Tragl1 Mar 2016 #48
djean111 Mar 2016 #46
Still In Wisconsin Mar 2016 #47
Trajan Mar 2016 #53
SoapBox Mar 2016 #54
silvershadow Mar 2016 #56
d_legendary1 Mar 2016 #60
lakeguy Mar 2016 #57
Scuba Mar 2016 #66
Dont call me Shirley Mar 2016 #70
Rex Mar 2016 #58
SHRED Mar 2016 #61
Rex Mar 2016 #62
turbinetree Mar 2016 #63
B Calm Mar 2016 #65
Thespian2 Mar 2016 #68
Dont call me Shirley Mar 2016 #71
whereisjustice Mar 2016 #72
emsimon33 Mar 2016 #73
StevieM Mar 2016 #74
Firebrand Gary Mar 2016 #81
Feeling the Bern Mar 2016 #82
Firebrand Gary Mar 2016 #84
hfojvt Mar 2016 #89
avaistheone1 Mar 2016 #85
Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2016 #86
the_sly_pig Mar 2016 #87
hfojvt Mar 2016 #88
Warren DeMontague Mar 2016 #90
billhicks76 Mar 2016 #93
Warren DeMontague Mar 2016 #95
billhicks76 Mar 2016 #96
Warren DeMontague Mar 2016 #98
Jeffersons Ghost Mar 2016 #97
zentrum Mar 2016 #105
hopemountain Mar 2016 #116
The Wizard Mar 2016 #109

Response to Scuba (Original post)

Tue Mar 29, 2016, 12:49 PM

1. Barack Obama, POTUS and party head, hired her and likes her. He even endorsed her in her primary.

Joe Biden has her back, too.


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Response to MADem (Reply #1)

Tue Mar 29, 2016, 01:25 PM

10. What other gov't official would you NOT apply that

logic to? It appears to be the complete absence of your own critical analysis. Four legs good, two legs bad only works for so long.

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Response to theaocp (Reply #10)

Tue Mar 29, 2016, 01:30 PM

12. I'm not even sure what you're trying to say, there. Any attempt to liken Barack Obama to

a character from Animal Farm is completely not working for me, though.

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Response to MADem (Reply #12)

Tue Mar 29, 2016, 03:32 PM

51. It's a reference to blind support.

I don't like the idea that anyone supports something just because the leader supports it.

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Response to theaocp (Reply #51)

Tue Mar 29, 2016, 10:25 PM

75. Hillary's wing of the Democratic Party is the authoritarian wing.

 

Blind support and name recognition is their motto. They would rather you not ask questions or learn too much about why they do the things we don't want them to do.

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Response to MADem (Reply #1)

Tue Mar 29, 2016, 02:11 PM

23. There are many examples of failures in this administration.

This would be one.

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Response to Gore1FL (Reply #23)

Tue Mar 29, 2016, 03:08 PM

39. All your going to get is "I don't see anything wrong."

That's it.

Rinse and repeat.

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Response to Gore1FL (Reply #23)

Tue Mar 29, 2016, 03:27 PM

49. As Obama admitted

 

Rise of the KKK. Guantanamo prison. Single Payer. Hiring of DWS

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Response to MADem (Reply #1)

Tue Mar 29, 2016, 04:53 PM

59. Better Believe it!

 

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Response to MADem (Reply #1)

Tue Mar 29, 2016, 05:27 PM

64. Can you name her accomplishments? That is the question.

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Response to roody (Reply #64)

Wed Mar 30, 2016, 05:42 AM

100. Somehow convincing important people she is competent

when she really isn't. Obama should have deep sixed her after the Bloodbath of '14.

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Response to roody (Reply #64)

Thu Mar 31, 2016, 12:24 AM

115. She is not my representative and I do not live in her district. Why would I retain a laundry list

of her achievements?

She answers to the people in her district, not me, when it comes to her position in the House.

She answers to Barack Obama, not me, when it comes to her position as DNC chair. He's the party head, and he likes the work she's done for him.

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Response to Scuba (Original post)

Tue Mar 29, 2016, 12:53 PM

2. If her Dem primary opponent can walk and

chew gum, he should easily defeat her.
He should be able to fund raise easily and get a lot of volunteers.

Go Tim Go!!!
https://timcanova.com/

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Response to Funtatlaguy (Reply #2)

Tue Mar 29, 2016, 12:54 PM

3. Thanks for adding that link.

 

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Response to Scuba (Original post)

Tue Mar 29, 2016, 01:02 PM

4. She is the new democratic party.



Some election, perhaps this one, Dem leadership is going to be surprised that their We Suck Less campaign strategy doesn't work anymore. The way they are behaving, I can't decide if they think they can win without the left or if they think we will get in line like we have in the past.

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Response to CrispyQ (Reply #4)

Tue Mar 29, 2016, 01:06 PM

5. Based on the record I cited, that strategy never worked ...

 

Obama ran on "hope and change," not "we suck less."


Except for the White House, we've lost and lost and lost. I guess they're OK with that. Maybe that was their plan. You know, 3D chess of some sort beyond the grasp of us little people.

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Response to CrispyQ (Reply #4)

Tue Mar 29, 2016, 01:28 PM

11. Well, this honky ain't gonna just get in line.

 

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Response to Scuba (Original post)

Tue Mar 29, 2016, 01:21 PM

6. Sounds like a broken record. n/t

 

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Response to Scuba (Original post)

Tue Mar 29, 2016, 01:21 PM

7. I guess this tells us who Obama supports in the Presidential primary.

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Response to jalan48 (Reply #7)

Wed Mar 30, 2016, 04:27 AM

94. Donate $ To Tim Canova

 

Send a message to these corporate gigalos.

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Response to Scuba (Original post)

Tue Mar 29, 2016, 01:23 PM

8. KnR nt

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Response to Scuba (Original post)

Tue Mar 29, 2016, 01:23 PM

9. Now we have Bern and the neo Progressive ""Fourth Way"

Progressive Movement is now set back 50 years.

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Response to Cryptoad (Reply #9)

Tue Mar 29, 2016, 01:33 PM

16. More like 70 years to the Roosevelt era where Progressive got started

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Response to Cryptoad (Reply #9)

Tue Mar 29, 2016, 02:13 PM

24. Bernie is actually the 2nd way.

He more closely the ideals we had as a party before we decided to hide scared in the corner as an official strategy.

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Response to Cryptoad (Reply #9)

Tue Mar 29, 2016, 02:18 PM

27. Proud FDR Democrat here...I'd call that the First Way.

 

Oh, and he got all the crap being slung too, as has been slung at what I believe to be his predecesssor...Bernie Sanders.

Establishment status quo good...Progress and moving forward into some uncharted area, not so much. Yet, he took it and moved forward for the good of the country. That's a Leader.

Every month I get my Social Security Check, I'm grateful for his foresight.

He had an advantage as already being the President, so we'll just have to work a bit harder.

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Response to Cryptoad (Reply #9)

Tue Mar 29, 2016, 03:11 PM

40. ...

Jesus we are fucked if that's what you and the rest of the Hillary supporters think.

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Response to Cryptoad (Reply #9)

Tue Mar 29, 2016, 03:29 PM

50. Isn't that about when Hillary

 

Was a Goldwater Girl and one who did not repudiate segregation.

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Response to Cryptoad (Reply #9)

Tue Mar 29, 2016, 07:04 PM

69. By Bill Clinton and the DLC, they would gladly burn down the New Deal to ashes.

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Response to Cryptoad (Reply #9)

Wed Mar 30, 2016, 01:30 AM

83. Please explain... I don't understand.

Also this term "neo progressive" - is it anything like "neo liberal" ? And is the Third Way neo-liberal? Third Way btw being Tony Blair and you know what he did with George W Bush....

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Response to Scuba (Original post)

Tue Mar 29, 2016, 01:31 PM

13. No citations?

Guess we can post anything now.

Care to read something that can be cited? Probably not. Ever heard of American Crossroads? If you are really paying attention, I'm sure you have.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/17/us/politics/the-right-aims-at-democrats-on-social-media-to-hit-clinton.html?_r=0

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Response to Loki (Reply #13)

Tue Mar 29, 2016, 01:32 PM

15. I can give you an eyewitness account to her treason in Florida Congressional races.

I WAS THERE!

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Response to Fuddnik (Reply #15)

Tue Mar 29, 2016, 01:34 PM

17. Really, come to Missouri

and I'll show you tea party counties that voted for BS. Yea right.

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Response to Loki (Reply #17)

Tue Mar 29, 2016, 01:39 PM

18. i was managing a Congressional campaign in Florida in 2006.

We beat the party's DLC favorite by 10 pts in the primary, and Debbie Disaster came along and endorsed her "friend", our Republican opponent. Same year she refused to support 3 South Florida Democrats, because they were running against her "friends", 3 of the most extreme Republicans in the House.

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Response to Fuddnik (Reply #18)

Tue Mar 29, 2016, 02:24 PM

29. Debbie Disasterman Schultz.

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Response to HughBeaumont (Reply #29)

Wed Mar 30, 2016, 12:59 PM

111. Debbie Lieberman Schultz. nt

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Response to Fantastic Anarchist (Reply #111)

Wed Mar 30, 2016, 01:03 PM

112. Pretty much.

That fucker was, I believe, the person most responsible for losing 2000.

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Response to HughBeaumont (Reply #112)

Wed Mar 30, 2016, 01:10 PM

113. Yep. Most definitely.

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Response to Fuddnik (Reply #18)

Tue Mar 29, 2016, 10:47 PM

76. Yuk

that's like party treason and she was appointed head of the DNC? Definitely a lot wrong. SIck,sick, sick

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Response to Fuddnik (Reply #18)

Wed Mar 30, 2016, 04:21 AM

91. Whoa

 

What a piece of garbage. She supported the republicans? That's enough evidence she is a fake democrat implant.

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Response to billhicks76 (Reply #91)

Wed Mar 30, 2016, 11:55 AM

107. totally off topic but you need the new colbert emoji for your avatar

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Response to Fuddnik (Reply #18)

Wed Mar 30, 2016, 12:58 PM

110. So, she's Joe Lieberman in drag. nt

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Response to Loki (Reply #17)

Tue Mar 29, 2016, 01:43 PM

19. Last I checked, the Tea Party members I knew weren't Democrats. This thread is about Democrats.

 

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Response to Loki (Reply #17)

Tue Mar 29, 2016, 01:49 PM

21. The new Democratic Party Motto: Better than the Tea Party

 

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Response to Scuba (Reply #21)

Tue Mar 29, 2016, 03:33 PM

52. I live in Missouri

I know those counties that voted for BS. They are not Democratic held counties by a long shot. So Republican's came to the polls and voted in the OPEN primary for BS. You may not like it, but that's the way it was. I doubt that Democrats voted for him in this open primary, Republicans voted against Hillary. They knew Trump or Cruz would win easily, so they acted as spoilers. You really think he won? Boy, I laugh out loud when I hear you say that. You don't know my state at all.

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Response to Loki (Reply #52)

Tue Mar 29, 2016, 11:52 PM

78. Living where I do I know a lot of Tea Party voters. They would rather have Bernie for President

than Hillary, who they despise. They are sick of their own Establishment, but many support Bernie because they are not into Trump's hate. Sure most like Trump, but many do not think he can win the General for the same reason. They hate Bernie's policies in general, but they are sick of the corruption as well. Hillary has brought home to them just who has caused their problems, the ones donating to her. It opened their eyes to notice how their own have many of the same donors.

Bernie's taking on the real power in this country and they know it.

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Response to Dustlawyer (Reply #78)

Wed Mar 30, 2016, 12:03 AM

79. You live in Texas?

So did I for 14 years. In Houston. You make me laugh. It's not Missouri sorry. I don't know of any mouth breathing tea party idiots that know enough about Bernie to have an informed opinion except the word "socialist". You might just as well say "communist". They are good for Trump all the way. I'm sure you've heard of American Crossroads yes? They've done a really good job on you.

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Response to Loki (Reply #52)

Wed Mar 30, 2016, 12:07 AM

80. I'm glad they did.

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Response to roody (Reply #80)

Wed Mar 30, 2016, 05:36 AM

99. You don't understand.

They have no intention of voting for him if he should be in the general. None.

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Response to Loki (Reply #99)

Wed Mar 30, 2016, 01:36 PM

114. Thats your perogative.

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Response to Loki (Reply #52)

Wed Mar 30, 2016, 09:24 AM

103. Total Bull...

I live in a red county. I'm a Democrat.

I voted for Bernie!

I don't know WTH you live, but the teabaggers here voted for Cruz.

No one I know crossed party lines. Got any proof?

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Response to Loki (Reply #13)

Tue Mar 29, 2016, 02:45 PM

33. The OP asked a question,

if you want to defend DWS, where are you're citations? She's not mentioned at all in your link.

Go ahead, defend DWS and post a rebuttal. We're waiting.

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Response to mountain grammy (Reply #33)

Tue Mar 29, 2016, 06:05 PM

67. And it's almost four hours later.

One would think what with teh Google and the intertubes that some sort of answer would be forthcoming.

But nope, crickets.

As to be expected.

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Response to Scuba (Original post)

Tue Mar 29, 2016, 01:31 PM

14. Debbie, Obama, and Biden are also supporting ANOTHER Republican retread in Florida.

Patrick Murphy over Alan Grayson.

And for the record, she supported at least 5 republicans over democrats in Florida congressional races.

Since Obama and Biden support this ongoing disaster, I guess it says as much about them.

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Response to Fuddnik (Reply #14)

Wed Mar 30, 2016, 04:23 AM

92. That Is Treasonous

 

She should be tossed out.

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Response to Fuddnik (Reply #14)

Wed Mar 30, 2016, 07:47 AM

102. Murphy is just awful

He was a max Romney donor.

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Response to Fuddnik (Reply #14)

Wed Mar 30, 2016, 11:55 AM

106. I'd love to know what hillary supporters think of this!

 

"Murphy was a member of the Republican Party, donating the maximum individual contribution of $2,300 to Mitt Romney's 2008 presidential campaign and $4,800 to other Republican candidates, until four months prior to announcing his candidacy for Congress, at which time he switched his registration to the Democratic Party and donated $4,000 to a variety of Democratic candidates."

So the DNC chair supports this person - while her cheerleaders are freaking out because Bernie isn't enough of a democrat to run as one.

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Response to Scuba (Original post)

Tue Mar 29, 2016, 01:47 PM

20. all of the above

 

This is why I am embarrassed to be a Democrat. The party thinks I have no brain ! The party thinks I am a lemming, just go along to get along and accept anything that comes out of a party leaders mouth. No More - not working.
I am so feeling the Bern.

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Response to Scuba (Original post)

Tue Mar 29, 2016, 02:04 PM

22. Answers

None
None
None

She's about as far from a progressive as they come. She reminds me of the other AIPAC shill, Liarman.

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Response to lark (Reply #22)

Tue Mar 29, 2016, 03:00 PM

37. And Rahm.

Rahmmy, Debbie, and Joe.

The Three Stooges.

Somebody could make a nice shirt out of that.

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Response to Fuddnik (Reply #37)

Wed Mar 30, 2016, 07:22 AM

101. forget not

Chuck Chuck the AIPAC schmuck

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Response to Fuddnik (Reply #37)

Wed Mar 30, 2016, 12:32 PM

108. Yep, totally agree

All 3 are the opposite of progressive.

I'd buy the shirt.

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Response to Scuba (Original post)

Tue Mar 29, 2016, 02:13 PM

25. Sounds like she did worse than an empty seat.

And she even got paid!

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Response to Scuba (Original post)

Tue Mar 29, 2016, 02:14 PM

26. She should be definitely be replaced as DNC head. n/t

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Response to Scuba (Original post)

Tue Mar 29, 2016, 02:24 PM

28. I'm still waiting for someone to post good things about her on this thread

Other than the fact that BHO supports her. Come on, she must have a record of positive accomplishments that Party loyalists can point to! Anyone? I am surprised no one has tallied up the money she has raised or something like that. Of course, what was that money spent on and who did it help elect?

Attacks on sources or posters do not count, folks.

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Response to n2doc (Reply #28)

Tue Mar 29, 2016, 02:25 PM

30. You noticed that too, eh?

 

Conspicuous by its absence, Debbie's progressive record.

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Response to Scuba (Reply #30)

Wed Mar 30, 2016, 10:03 AM

104. Yeah and so far the non-insult replies are of 2 types

1, she wasn't chair in 2010 so all the losses are on Kaine (except for that unmentioned part about losing the senate and even more house seats in 2014)
2. She tried really hard to defeat Ernst and Scott. She really did! Just didn't quite work out.

Now, if that is a 'success' I want to know what a failure is.

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Response to Scuba (Original post)

Tue Mar 29, 2016, 02:26 PM

31. Debbie joins Republicans

For this alone she should fired and NOT endorsed:

DNC Chair Joins GOP Attack On Elizabeth Warren’s Agency

Payday lenders get a new ally


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/debbie-wasserman-schultz-paylenders-cfpb_us_56d4ce38e4b03260bf77e8fc

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Response to Scuba (Original post)

Tue Mar 29, 2016, 02:42 PM

32. I just pointed this out to Obama (whitehouse.gov)

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Response to TryLogic (Reply #32)

Tue Mar 29, 2016, 02:57 PM

35. If he reads it

 

he'll just smile.

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Response to Scuba (Original post)

Tue Mar 29, 2016, 02:46 PM

34. I guess to be part of the New Democratic Party you have to pass a different sort of Wasserman test.

One where you support Republicans and corporations.

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Response to GoneOffShore (Reply #34)

Tue Mar 29, 2016, 03:01 PM

38. Wasserboarding?

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Response to Fuddnik (Reply #38)

Tue Mar 29, 2016, 03:16 PM

42. Well, you do know what a Wasserman test is, right?

It's the name for the original test to determine if one has syphilis.

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Response to GoneOffShore (Reply #42)

Tue Mar 29, 2016, 03:45 PM

55. Nope. Didn't know that.

Thanks.

Could we get rid of her with penicillin?

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Response to Scuba (Original post)

Tue Mar 29, 2016, 02:57 PM

36. Relations between labor unions and the Democratic Party have fallen to dire straits under her watch.

Major union leaders have been warning our party for years now, that we can't just assume their support, if we don't start actually delivering on some shit when in power.

Edit: Removing older politico link:
"Here's labor getting thrown under the bus again," said John Gage, the national president of the American Federation of Government Employees, which represents 600,000 workers. "It's really frustrating for labor, and a lot of union people are thinking: We put out big time in money and volunteers and support. And it seems like the little things that could have been aren't being done."



That's a continuous drumbeat I've been hearing for at least 4 years now. Surest way to lose Labor support, is to continue taking them for granted. They could just stay home, or form an independent party.

DWS is part of setting the tone and priorities of the party, meaning, a large part of that problem.

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Response to Scuba (Original post)

Tue Mar 29, 2016, 03:13 PM

41. She is a terrible DNC chair.

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Response to blackspade (Reply #41)

Tue Mar 29, 2016, 03:16 PM

43. Nailed it.

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Response to blackspade (Reply #41)

Tue Mar 29, 2016, 10:53 PM

77. Has there been

anyone worse than her? She's a total loser.

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Response to Scuba (Original post)

Tue Mar 29, 2016, 03:18 PM

44. THAT is a great post! All verifiable via the GOOGLE!

Thank you, Scuba! Amazing what one can learn by reading.

For instance, Rep. Wasserman Schultz stated she never heard about President Obama's drone assassination program that had killed US citizens:



The remarkable, unfathomable ignorance of Debbie Wasserman Schultz

The Chair of the Democratic National Committee is completely unaware of one of the biggest stories of the Obama years

by Glenn Greenwald
The Guardian, Oct. 20, 2012

That Obama has a "kill list" has been known since January, 2010, and has been widely reported and discussed in every major American newspaper since April 2010. A major controversy over chronic White House leaks often featured complaints about this article (New York Times, 5 June 2012: "Senators to Open Inquiry Into 'Kill List' and Iran Security Leaks". The Attorney General, Eric Holder, gave a major speech defending it.

But Debbie Wasserman Schultz, the Democratic Congresswoman from Florida and the Chairwoman of the Democratic National Committee, does not know about any of this. She has never heard of any of it. She has managed to remain completely ignorant about the fact that President Obama has asserted and exercised the power to secretly place human beings, including US citizens, on his "kill list" and then order the CIA to extinguish their lives.

Just marvel at this stunning, completely inexcusable two-minute display of wholesale ignorance by this elected official and DNC chair. Here she is after the second presidential debate being asked by Luke Rudkowski of We Are Change about the "kill list" and whether Romney should be trusted with this power. She doesn't defend the "kill list". She doesn't criticize it. She makes clear that she has never heard of it and then contemptuously treats Rudkowski like he is some sort of frivolous joke for thinking that it is real:



Anyone who observes politics closely has a very low bar of expectations. It's almost inevitable to become cynical - even jaded - about just how inept and inane top Washington officials are. Still, even processing this through those lowly standards, I just find this staggering. Staggering and repellent. This is an elected official in Congress, the body that the Constitution designed to impose checks on the president's abuses of power, and she does not have the foggiest idea what is happening in the White House, and obviously does not care in the slightest, because the person doing it is part of the party she leads.

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http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2012/oct/20/wasserman-schultz-kill-list



That's the kind of important thing people in Democratic leadership positions need to know, I would think. Thanks for being on top of it, Scuba!

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Response to Scuba (Original post)

Tue Mar 29, 2016, 03:18 PM

45. The Thirdway influence doesn't even try to hide anymore.

This is all simple neo liberal, Thirdway strategy at work. All very basic, all very easy to understand, all very revealing, yet will still escape basic analysis from the general US population. Yes some willfully ignore it and double down on the spin.

This fucking wheel keeps going round and round yet we have a nation of people who fucking don't get it.

Ugh! Just,......fuck.




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Response to Phlem (Reply #45)

Tue Mar 29, 2016, 03:21 PM

48. Can I just agree and add one more...

 

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Response to Scuba (Original post)

Tue Mar 29, 2016, 03:21 PM

46. She, and the rest of the membership of the Third-Way-advised New Democrat Coalition,

 

are DINOs, and I will not vote for or support any of them, come what may.

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Response to Scuba (Original post)

Tue Mar 29, 2016, 03:21 PM

47. Debbie Disaster... master of pulling defeat out from the jaws of victory. She is like

an NFL coach who goes 1-15 in three consecutive seasons. Is is ALL her fault? Obviously not. Is she a competent leader of the party though? Again, obvously not.

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Response to Scuba (Original post)

Tue Mar 29, 2016, 03:37 PM

53. I am so glad you came back!

 

Hell yes! ... That silly lady had got to go ...

The whole DLC/Third Way cabal has got to be tossed out on their ears ....

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Response to Scuba (Original post)

Tue Mar 29, 2016, 03:44 PM

54. Proggressive alright...

Progressively moving us to the Right.

Thanks for nothing, Little Debbie.

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Response to silvershadow (Reply #56)

Tue Mar 29, 2016, 04:59 PM

60. You and me both!

He's to Tim!!!

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Response to Scuba (Original post)

Tue Mar 29, 2016, 04:49 PM

57. She would have been kicked from DU long ago if she was a member

for supporting republicans over democrats.

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Response to lakeguy (Reply #57)

Tue Mar 29, 2016, 05:55 PM

66. +1

 

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Response to lakeguy (Reply #57)

Tue Mar 29, 2016, 07:13 PM

70. Astute observation, lakeguy! She would have been pitched out with no goodbye!

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Response to Scuba (Original post)

Tue Mar 29, 2016, 04:51 PM

58. Wait...she supported Repukes over Dems in Florida?

 

WTF!?

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Response to Rex (Reply #58)

Tue Mar 29, 2016, 05:21 PM

61. Yep...HERE:

Controversy arose in March 2008 when she announced that she would be unable to campaign against South Florida Republican representatives Lincoln Diaz-Balart, Mario Diaz-Balart and Ileana Ros-Lehtinen because of her good friendship with them.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debbie_Wasserman_Schultz#2008

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Response to SHRED (Reply #61)

Tue Mar 29, 2016, 05:26 PM

62. I cannot support in good faith, a party leader that supports Republicans over Dems.

 

Thanks, how horrible and yet she is loved by the D.C. crowd...they should be ashamed.

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Response to Scuba (Original post)

Tue Mar 29, 2016, 05:26 PM

63. And to add to this mix..................................by golly--------------

look who made this list..............................I rest my case........................and we are "all" waiting for the final shoe to drop....................this year---------------------


https://ourfuture.org/20150615/the-28-democrats-who-voted-for-fast-track



Honk-----------------for a political revolution Bernie 2016

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Response to Scuba (Original post)

Tue Mar 29, 2016, 05:28 PM

65. She needs to resign and change political parties!

 

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Response to Scuba (Original post)

Tue Mar 29, 2016, 06:18 PM

68. You got it right, Scuba...

As some have suggested, she should join the party she most often supports...the Republican Party...I don't believe Dems need a loser like her...even if Obama supports her...

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Response to Scuba (Original post)

Tue Mar 29, 2016, 07:15 PM

71. Dump Debbie!

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Response to Scuba (Original post)

Tue Mar 29, 2016, 08:05 PM

72. She progressed the pay scale for the 1%, fucking over everyone else. That's what she has done.

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Response to Scuba (Original post)

Tue Mar 29, 2016, 09:19 PM

73. K&R

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Response to Scuba (Original post)

Tue Mar 29, 2016, 09:57 PM

74. Wrong. DWS was not party chair until April 2011. Tim Kaine was the original DNC Chair

when Obama first took office. He presided over the 2010 mid-term elections when most of our losses happened. Not that I blame him either.

Isn't Louis Gohmert in a safe GOP district? How is it her fault if we couldn't field an opponent against him? (I didn't realize we hadn't).

And we all tried our best to beat Jonie Ernst. She had an opponent, Representative Bruce Braley. We ran a sitting member of the House of Representatives. We didn't concede the race--we just lost.

Running Charlie Crist, who was a popular governor, wasn't exactly a crazy thing to do. Besides, he had to win the primary. In the end, it was the Democratic voters who chose him

I don't see how you think she has undermined President Obama's agreement with Iran. (It isn't a "treaty," for the record). She voted for it. But every member of Congress is entitled to their feelings, and to vote their conscience. Chuck Schumer, our incoming Senate Democratic Leader (hopefully the Majority Leader), voted against it. I doubt that President Obama believes that he betrayed him.

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Response to Firebrand Gary (Reply #81)

Wed Mar 30, 2016, 01:25 AM

82. damn progressives and liberals

 

if only they would sacrifice principle for party. . .how dare they want things they support.

maybe we should purge them and become the republican lite party. after all, what have progressives and liberals ever done?

time for a purge. purge those fucking progressives. they destroyed the party. party over principles!!!!

christ, what have we as democrats become?

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Response to Feeling the Bern (Reply #82)

Wed Mar 30, 2016, 01:30 AM

84. We're all progressive here! nt

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Response to StevieM (Reply #74)

Wed Mar 30, 2016, 04:13 AM

89. thanks, that echoes some of what I said

Not sure about the primary of Florida or Louis Gohmert.

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Response to Scuba (Original post)

Wed Mar 30, 2016, 02:06 AM

85. A MIGHTY K&R

 

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Response to Scuba (Original post)

Wed Mar 30, 2016, 03:12 AM

86. They say she's a progressive because she supports Hillary....

 

Hillary must be a progressive because she says so.

Of course those same folks are obsessed with not giving away free stuff and say people should have to work for it.

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Response to Scuba (Original post)

Wed Mar 30, 2016, 03:51 AM

87. FDWS.

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Response to Scuba (Original post)

Wed Mar 30, 2016, 04:06 AM

88. I would argue

that a Republican retread should be highly electaible in a Red area.

So that is not all bad.

I might also argue with the inclusion of Joni Ernst. If you abandon a 50 state strategy, that does NOT mean you are abandoning Iowa. In fact, you should be MORE likely to win a state like Iowa because you are NOT wasting resources in Wyoming or Utah or Oklahoma and you have more to put into an Iowa campaign.

It's not entirely fair to blame her for the bloodbath of 2010 either. In fact, I think whats his name was probably still chair then - Tim Kaine, wasn't it? The House was already lost when she became chair. Yep Kaine was in until 2011. So a lot of the losses did NOT happen under DWS. We may even have come back some in 2012 and broke even in 2014.

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Response to Scuba (Original post)

Wed Mar 30, 2016, 04:17 AM

90. Teamed up with sheldon adelson and voted repeatedly to send medical marijuana users to prison

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Response to Warren DeMontague (Reply #90)

Wed Mar 30, 2016, 04:26 AM

93. I Hope She Ends Up In A Worse Prison

 

Maybe when she gets cancer she can be told she's not allowed to treat it.

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Response to billhicks76 (Reply #93)

Wed Mar 30, 2016, 04:29 AM

95. I would not wish that on anyone, even someone who despicably votes to put sick pot users in prison.

She must be very proud of herself, and her repeated votes to send sick grannies to prison for eating a pot brownie.

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Response to Warren DeMontague (Reply #95)

Wed Mar 30, 2016, 04:31 AM

96. I Said If She Gets Cancer

 

The worse was a reference to worse than prison and really I'm just beside myself someone can be so two-faced and evil and supported by some Democrats.

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Response to billhicks76 (Reply #96)

Wed Mar 30, 2016, 05:16 AM

98. Yeah, I know.

It's amazing. And people still line up to defend her, after she doubles down on that and does the payday loan shit, etc.

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Response to Scuba (Original post)

Wed Mar 30, 2016, 04:34 AM

97. K&R but "tremendous force has been built up."

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Response to Scuba (Original post)

Wed Mar 30, 2016, 10:03 AM

105. She abandoned the

…..the 50 State strategy by design together with the Establishment, because it empowered ordinary people too much. They don't want us involved. We are to be merely the receivers of their decisions for us.

They want us to trust, but never verify.

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Response to zentrum (Reply #105)

Thu Mar 31, 2016, 04:50 AM

116. she has a fervent disdain for the

grassroots. i swear, venom drips off her lips when she says "grassroots".

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Response to Scuba (Original post)

Wed Mar 30, 2016, 12:53 PM

109. Democrats would be wise

to jettison this shit bag fake Democrat.

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